Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 03:13:52
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I hate to admit that I just received my free games codes from Amazon for both of my classifieds. This is the only reason I don't want to return the cards, because I ordered them separately so that I could get the three codes per card. Now I am too embarrassed to admit that I feel like I bought garbage and don't want to lose the money to restock the cards as well as lose the amount that the six game codes will cost. If EVGA can't at list give an idea of what they are trying to do, I will eat the price and switch to a different company. I have 10 days until I get my hands on my cards and can ship them back, but I will not sponsor their silence past that point.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 03:31:28
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I told myself a few weeks ago to wait till after the holidays to see what non-ref cards are available. Checked this morning on Classy and wow found this thread. Still no fix from EVGA? Is it safe to assume cards purchased from EVGA (when they come available) will have issue resolved??
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 03:36:28
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That is a good question. I doubt they will push the fix if they can't support the people who have paid a ton of money toward them, and open packages that haven't shipped just to update a card they are going to rape a customer bank account with anyway.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 03:40:55
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I will also wait for the fix and let everyone else know too!
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 03:46:42
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matthmaroo
my issue is with overclocking the gtx 780 TI classy
I also have a 780 ti sc acx and I got to 1300mhz with little to no effort
I cant get any stable over clock in heaven or vally, (not even 10 mhz) I was reading in another forum post the card has some voltage bios issues
i can get to +60 mhz with both cards in sli anything over that Heaven crashes I also gor a better overclock with my 780ti sc COME ON EVGA hurry up and get this fixed !!!
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 06:02:40
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You need to uninstall PX, flash the BIOS, then reinstall PX so it doesnt cause any issues. Just uninstall but keep your user settings. Also, this BIOS does disable boost features. So any overclocking on the "Core clock offset" will add speed to the 1084mhz base clock which this custom BIOS applies. For instance, I have PX set to +125 on the core, and when I run 3D rendering, the card goes up to ~1205mhz and does not boost any higher. So basically it's like old school overclocking without any kepler/gk110 specific boosting features.
I understand that it disables boost. But does it support different power states/clocks for idle?
Yes. That has not changed.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 08:37:49
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The more I read into this, the more I think EVGA faces a slippery slope in "addressing" 780ti Classy overclocking consistency. From this thread comes words like "obstacle," and "nVidia Green Light." From the owners thread comes a modded bios with people using EVBot, a product we know nVidia shunned. Post# 6449 shows skyn3t finding the voltage wall after all his work: http://www.overclock.net/t/1411500/official-evga-classified-owners-club/6440 With Jacob saying "they know" but hit an "obstacle," I say it's doubtful an official bios update is coming.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 09:17:05
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and the Bios fix is????
Come on guys this is a joke. Very expensive cards not doing as advertised. Fix the problem NVIDIA and EVGA.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 11:12:09
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jonpassero
go to post #15 of this thread and download the ftw2002 bios. It completely fixes the issue. Even if evga did release an official bios fix you would want to download a custom modified bios to fully utilize a classy anyway. The evga stock bios's don't have high enough of a power limit anyway. This bios below has a 690w max power limit.
http://kingpincooling.com....php?t=2514&page=2
These classified's are beasts after flashing this bios and using evbot or software tool. I have gotten up to 1424mhz core and 8.6ghz memory with firestrike and extreme. Completely blowing away my 780 classy graphics score.
Come to the official classified owner's club at overclock.net, I have all the info you need there. The front page has the nvflash tools you need and some instructions for flashing. Flashing a bios wont void your warranty but I believe overvolting it will. Anyone who is worried about voiding there warranty should have bought a different card.
I know this fix is not official but at least we all know about it and I always planned on flashing my classy anyway.
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Hi quick question, would I need to use evbot or software tool to see gains, or can I flash bios 2 and use Precision alone? Would be using stock cooler.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 14:28:13
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pazza3169
and the Bios fix is????
Come on guys this is a joke. Very expensive cards not doing as advertised. Fix the problem NVIDIA and EVGA.
My guess from whats been said is the bios fix from EVGA isnt coming anytime soon,, if ever depending what nvidia agrees to let them do Enjoy your card stock or flash sky's bios is best atm you can hope for yes i know this isn't ideal but atm its all you can do
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 17:09:55
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Triss
pazza3169
and the Bios fix is????
Come on guys this is a joke. Very expensive cards not doing as advertised. Fix the problem NVIDIA and EVGA.
My guess from whats been said is the bios fix from EVGA isnt coming anytime soon,, if ever depending what nvidia agrees to let them do
Enjoy your card stock or flash sky's bios is best atm you can hope for
yes i know this isn't ideal but atm its all you can do
Unfortunately, that's also what I'm thinking - that Nvidia is in the drivers seat. Regardless, I'd really like to get a straight answer from EVGA regarding what's going on.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 17:20:17
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I just ordered one and a backplate. I overclock using Precision/AB limits and plan to use ACX cooler. What it'll do on air with LN2 bios works for me. :)
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/05 20:07:29
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dbianchi
I just ordered one and a backplate. I overclock using Precision/AB limits and plan to use ACX cooler. What it'll do on air with LN2 bios works for me. :)
It won't be much. Like most have said, it is virtually impossible to get the card to boost over 1220mhz without getting driver crashes. That's basically like a 65-80mhz offset. Pretty pathetic.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/06 19:21:21
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It's about time to fix these cards isn't it? or can you not fix them?
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/06 19:23:11
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All the attention is probably towards the kingpin card.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/06 20:07:04
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I can confirm that you need above 1.212V to get a core clock of 1220MHz or greater. Anything below that results in a driver crash/recover.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 06:17:21
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I can confirm that you need above 1.212V to get a core clock of 1220MHz or greater. Anything below that results in a driver crash/recover.
Who needs 1.212v everyone or just your cards? I have 2 in sli boosting to 1245mhz and 200 oc on the memory, . top card 1.187v and bottom 1.212v. Game stable.. Temps 71-72c top and 66-67c bottom. Can go higher but then temps increase. Waiting for my caselabs case to come then putting cards underwater... Just grab the right bios floating around, there are actually 2. At least you will gain stability with either bios..
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 06:25:48
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Question about Overclocking, as I am new. Is it easier to overclock the cards individually, note the results and then remove the card to work on overclocking the second so that you can make sure you get everything steady? I want to make sure I do this right, and since I want to do it right from the start, I want to make sure I don't do it wrong :-)
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 09:27:49
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So, with all these issues with the Classified cards is it best to AVOID them and put orders on HOLD?
If they are (still) not remedied at this point in time, perhaps a Superclocked card is the option.
Feedback?
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 09:40:31
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I hope KP Editon will be launched with fixed BIOS ready to Boost on 1200MHz and 1250MHz after little OC.
If I hit sample with 1275MHz Boost in games I will be very satisfied.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 10:28:23
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Question about Overclocking, as I am new. Is it easier to overclock the cards individually, note the results and then remove the card to work on overclocking the second so that you can make sure you get everything steady? I want to make sure I do this right, and since I want to do it right from the start, I want to make sure I don't do it wrong :-)
That is how I do it. I OC each card individually then when I put them in SLI I have a good point to start with for OC'ing them together. Your OC in SLI will only be as high as your weakest card. Be sure and have a good quality power supply  When you get time it would be a good idea to put your system specs in your signature 
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 12:09:06
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For **** sake jacob or anybody from EVGA stop shoving your head in the sand and reply to this topic you guys have been ignoring this issue for ages now and still no update.
customer support hasn't answered my question in more than 7 days 1-2 days my ass. seriously I am starting to regret buying this GPU and I haven't even installed it yet.
I know it's stupid of me to react like this without even installing mine but I run a pretty big business together with my parents and when something goes wrong involving a customer or a production we sure as hell keep them up to date all the time instead of them calling us all the time and not answering their question.
literally all we need is an answer. is there a fix. yes or no. can it be fixed yes or no?
is it nvidia stopping you guys once again? yes or no.
just answer the questions or are you afraid that if nvidia is stopping you guys this will cause everybody to return their 780Ti.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 12:22:09
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Where the hell is jacob or somebody else from EVGA. they are just ignoring us involving this thing I havent seen them adress our concerns and problems.
It's just like "oh we know we are working on something." others have fixed it in most cases but now its just like go ahead and complain.
is everybody there on holidays or something?
It's really sad . I was about to buy the classified version since I heard so much good about EVGA and their quality and customer support and now its just problems and problems with nobody really doing anything about it. really a big facesmack.
Sorry for the offensive words but evga should stop sucking kingpins dick and focus on their old fans aka people spending tons of money on handicapped classifieds.
I posted this in another thread.
So basically there is an issue if you use 3rd party tools (or evbot) to increase the voltage that will cause a BSOD.
We know what the issue is, we know how to fix it. Unfortunately however, we have found a roadblock with actually releasing the BIOS. We are still trying to resolve this.
With this being said, there is a 3rd party BIOS floating around that has the same fix, but obviously it is not officially endorsed by EVGA.
Let me guess it's NVIDIA?
 
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 12:30:26
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darklyspectre
For **** sake jacob or anybody from EVGA stop shoving your head in the sand and reply to this topic you guys have been ignoring this issue for ages now and still no update.
customer support hasn't answered my question in more than 7 days 1-2 days my ass. seriously I am starting to regret buying this GPU and I haven't even installed it yet.
I know it's stupid of me to react like this without even installing mine but I run a pretty big business together with my parents and when something goes wrong involving a customer or a production we sure as hell keep them up to date all the time instead of them calling us all the time and not answering their question.
literally all we need is an answer. is there a fix. yes or no. can it be fixed yes or no?
is it nvidia stopping you guys once again? yes or no.
just answer the questions or are you afraid that if nvidia is stopping you guys this will cause everybody to return their 780Ti.
I understand your frustration. I have placed my order on "HOLD" with the Classy video cards and will probably just get the Superclocked.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 12:59:42
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Been wanting to buy one but now not. eVga is going to lose sales. Not because of not providing a "FIX" but for their evasiveness and silence. We all know that if it is Nvidia which is causing eVGA not to release a "FIX" eVGA's legal are going through all the ins and outs to protect their company. I worked in law offices many years. Seen this before. It is a slippery slope for all involved. But in trying not to cause a relationship rift with their supplier (which Nvidia is) and their customers, well we will always loose. Over the years I have seen very good products die out disappear because the manufacturer had a hold on the secondary manufacturer or boutique. Everyone loses.
I have always bought video cards from eVGA and I build lots of computers. I even buy them for my company. (I am in IT)
It is too bad. Looks like it could be a Kick A card. A real OCer dream. Crash and burn man.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 13:28:07
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Oh man... Please stop the B*tching.. We all know the truth. Eventually they will release it, these things take time and EVGA doesn't have to answer every whiners post. This is crazy. This forum is starting to feel like gamefaqs.com . Just have a little patience or use another BIOS that will do what you need it to do. If you people want higher clocks, put cards underwater and flash a modded bios to push volts higher. With the given volts in precision, that's all the card is capable of. If you don't know this then u have no business buying the card or any other card for that matter.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 16:24:38
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^Are you serious here? These guys have a legitimate reason to be upset, and EVGA has a reputation to have great customer service so this "flagship" of a card is being portrayed as a serious joke at the moment.
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 16:40:30
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Oh man... Please stop the B*tching.. We all know the truth. Eventually they will release it, these things take time and EVGA doesn't have to answer every whiners post. This is crazy. This forum is starting to feel like gamefaqs.com . Just have a little patience or use another BIOS that will do what you need it to do. If you people want higher clocks, put cards underwater and flash a modded bios to push volts higher. With the given volts in precision, that's all the card is capable of. If you don't know this then u have no business buying the card or any other card for that matter.
what you forget these Whiners Aint whiners There customers that paid for a product and have a right to ask when Said product will be working as advertised
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 16:51:59
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Oh man... Please stop the B*tching.. We all know the truth. Eventually they will release it, these things take time and EVGA doesn't have to answer every whiners post. This is crazy. This forum is starting to feel like gamefaqs.com . Just have a little patience or use another BIOS that will do what you need it to do. If you people want higher clocks, put cards underwater and flash a modded bios to push volts higher. With the given volts in precision, that's all the card is capable of. If you don't know this then u have no business buying the card or any other card for that matter.
what you forget these Whiners Aint whiners There customers that paid for a product and have a right to ask when Said product will be working as advertised
This is what I see: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Dual Classified w/ EVGA ACX CoolerPart Number: 03G-P4-2888-KR - 1020MHz Base Clock
- 1085MHz Boost Clock
- 244.8GT/s Texture Fill Rate
- 3072MB GDDR5 Memory
- 7000MHz Memory Clock
- 336GB/s Memory Bandwidth
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Re: any word on 780 ti classified bios fix
2014/01/07 17:16:31
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Of course, when paired up with EVGA's Award Winning ACX Cooling, you get reduced temperatures, silent operation, and best of all, unbelievable overclocking potential!
so where is this??
Thats right off the page u linked..
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