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Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine

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2015/10/07 18:34:42 (permalink)
Hi.  I understand that XP is not an officially supported OS for z97 boards, (Or is it? - It's listed on the BIOS download page for this board, including the version I'm using, 1.07) but it's my preferred operating system for gaming and I'd prefer to use it.
 
After integrating the AHCI drivers for the SATA controller on this board (8C82 device ID), I was able to install windows xp 32-bit without any issues.  64-bit however, does not install and reports "The BIOS in this system is not fully ACPI compliant"
 
I have a feeling that this is related to the only options for the PC type being "ACPI Multi/Uniprocessor x64" and other, while the 32-bit edition has several other options, including the one I was able to install with: "Standard PC"
 
If anyone could shed some light on this I'd really appreciate it!
 
 
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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/11 15:32:54 (permalink)
    There's some details we need for example, is the controller set to AHCI in BIOS and was this drive an existing boot device on another system? AHCI only has support on Windows Vista and later so it's strange that the 32-bit version of XP accepted the driver but it's not so hard to see why the 64-bit version rejected it after all, Windows XP 64-bit had several limitations that made it less popular than the 32-bit version. As for Windows compatibility, I will need to confirm this with our product management.

     
     
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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/12 04:41:42 (permalink)
    This is not an easy task to do but I recomed you take a look at following guide by Fernando at Win-RAID which may help you.
    http://www.win-raid.com/t22f23-Guide-Integration-of-Intels-AHCI-RAID-drivers-into-a-Windows-XP-W-k-W-k-CD.html
    The problem is that are any ACHI drivers for this chipset Z97 on XP 32/64 and Fernando has make a tweaked version of 11.2.0.1006 that may work.
     



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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/13 03:12:07 (permalink)
    Sorry for not being clear;  Fernando's 11.2.0.1006 is the exact driver that I've been slipstreaming and was able to install 32-bit XP with.  In fact, I use this version of the driver in Win7 as well because I find that it performs much better than the more modern drivers, but that's another topic entirely.
     
    64-bit Doesn't seem to install under any circumstances, neither using the 64-bit driver modded by Fernando or even setting the BIOS to IDE seem to work.  Also, the normal AHCI-related BIOS error is 0x0000007b, but when trying to install 64-bit XP the blue screen reports that "The BIOS in this system is not fully ACPI compliant" which seems to be a completely different issue.
     
    I made sure that only the one hard drive and my optical drive were plugged in when trying to install.  I'm almost positive the HDD was formatted, as well... I may try once again in a couple days just to be 100% sure that it doesn't work with a cleanly formatted drive just to rule that out, but I highly doubt it seeing as XP32 installed without any hiccups under the same conditions that XP64 failed.  The only other thing I have yet to try is installing with the drive (and/or even the optical drive) plugged into the Marvell ports on the board, but I don't have very high hopes for that, either.
     
    Thanks for hearing me out, I hope we can get to the bottom of this or at least confirm that it's impossible so I can cry until a new operating system with low input-latency is produced (in other words for eternity)
     
     
    post edited by naravus - 2015/10/13 03:23:59
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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/13 10:59:21 (permalink)
    Hello,  and welcome to the forums.  I do not think what you are wanting to do is possible, according to Intel it isn't.  Now that being said there are often drivers that can resolve some of these issues.  But HDD can be an issue for detection, how big is it?  XP/XP64 *can* work fine with bigger drives, however, when you are having issues like these I try to shoot for something UNDER the 1TB limit, preferably under 768gb,  I have seen this help on old OS's before.  Also make sure you are plugged onto the Intel ports not the Marvell ports.
    May I ask, what applications you are using that requires you to stay on XP/XP64?  Unfortunately XP is retired, and XP64 teeters on the edge of abandonware; frankly XP64 never got the support that it really should have.
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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/13 11:28:55 (permalink)
    Have you tried to attach the CD on one of marvell SATA ports and then set that to IDE mode in BIOS. The HDD should be on the Intel SATA port and BIOS set to AHCI. All BIOS setting should be set to legacy mode and not UEFI for boot and options ROMS.



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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/13 20:14:40 (permalink)
    The drive I'm trying to use is 450GB; I'm not trying to use any specific applications, it's just that in my experience (and objective testing with a high-speed camera) XP has significantly lower input latency in directx applications which makes it much better for competitive gaming in comparison to 7, even with Aero/DWM and all unnecessary features in 7 disabled.
     
    The next thing I'm going to try is using the optical drive in a Marvell port on IDE setting with the target installation drive on an Intel controller port as LazySoft suggested.  I'll get back to this thread after I've exhausted that option, which will probably be Friday or Saturday.
     
    My boot settings have all been set to Legacy options the entire time.
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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/21 06:24:22 (permalink)
    Well, here I am on Win 7 again.  It turns out that you can't boot to devices plugged into the Marvell ports, and you can't even set them to IDE, either.
     
    So, I'm out of ideas again.
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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/21 22:51:48 (permalink)
    What CPU are you using? Does XP even support i7?


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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/22 19:57:12 (permalink)
    Yes, Xp supports i7's you can try installing xp on a virtual machine?
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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/23 14:01:30 (permalink)
    I thought Windows XP can only support 4 cores. Wouldn't an i7 be 8 total (4 plus 4 hyper-threaded)?  Or, is it 4 processors? I can't find the old Microsoft document describing the details.


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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/23 14:15:40 (permalink)
    Windows XP only supports old versions of DirectX so by using this operating system you are cheating yourself of a better gaming experience.
     
    In addition it should be noted there is no official support from Microsoft. You could open Pandora's box for a security threat.

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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/26 04:55:20 (permalink)
    "performance" / "a better gaming experience" and input lag are two different things.  (this is also why a virtual machine is pointless for me; I don't need XP for compatibility, I just want to have the lower input latency from it)
     
    CPU is i7-4790k, I don't think this is the issue as 32-bit works fine.
     
    Maybe I'll look into if z87 boards are compatible with XP and save up some money for one if so.
     
    I suppose you can close/delete this thread since I don't think anyone is going to have any more helpful suggestions.
     
     
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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/26 11:58:02 (permalink)
    Sorry to see that didn't work.
    The mayor problem is it has never been any great support at all from hardware vendors for XP64.
    That's was the main reason that I give up with XP64 long time ago.  



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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/10/26 13:10:59 (permalink)
    LOL, the best solution for this problem is to simply run Windows XP through a Virtual Box under a Linux Distro!  Simple and safe! Profit!
     
    EDIT: Oh I see from reading the thread more closely your issue is with input lag. Not sure if a lightweight virtualbox can provide the low latency but its possible. A lot of change has gone on recently in virtual box development.... I have even read about some people achieving full PCIE hardware passthrough so its entirely possible.
    Hahah, all this talk about input latency reminds me of the similar issue with Stock markets and trades... Getting faster hardware and lower latency network switches... Its a shame if gaming has to go in the direction of stock markets just to get an edge, but I guess its always been that way to some degree (ping).
     
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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/11/01 05:02:00 (permalink)
    I tried to research this but I really don't see a solution anywhere on the web. Are you absolutely sure you won't consider at least Windows 7?

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    Re: Z97 Classified - Windows XP 64-bit wont install, 32-bit works fine 2015/11/05 21:14:39 (permalink)
     
    What about Vista?   *runs away laughing*
     


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