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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/09 19:35:20 (permalink)
Okay that's VERY weird. v4.1 4.2 and 4.3 doesn't work. However v2.11 (that I used previously) works. So I'll let everyone know of how it comes togheter.
 
It would really be mean to have my memory yet again being fail, since I changed my Corsair vengeance to GSkills because Corsair's stick went out of the box failed.
 
Anyway, I'll let you know the moment I get 3 complete test (Passed or Errors)
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/09 22:55:57 (permalink)
This is quite strange… Hmm something is not right.


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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/09 23:31:05 (permalink)
Hi Gomez, long time no talk! :)
 
Currently, I have 2 test that have Passed without any errors and there's a test running @ 66%, as requested for Memtest86.
 
I'm really confused, as even my stable OC is not booting. I'll wait until 100% for test #3 so we can be 100% sure we have good RAM.
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/10 00:13:01 (permalink)
https://www.dropbox.com/s...3-06-10%2003.10.56.jpg
(Sorry for blurry image, it's Galaxy S3.)
There you go! 3 Time loop for Memtest86!
I'll get to bed and try Dummy tomorrow, see you then!
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/10 07:09:51 (permalink)
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I did a stress test on Prime95, is it another option to test all RAM?

I am having the same issue for Mem86+, nothing happens. It's freezing for no reason.. even on 4.1


Ok bud.  I have to call it quits for today.  I'll be back on tomorrow morning sometime.  Let me know how your testing goes.  We need to get to the bottom of this so we can get back to the OC'ing...

NP, Updates:
1- Memtest86: Went into base clock, putted in the first slot each one by one each of my GSkills memory. Everytime it froze on the screen I showed you before.
2- Memtest86: Same as #1 + Tried going into my latest stable OC, can't boot into windows.... :/
3- Went into base clock, tried going into windows and worked. I currently doing linx for 1 full time (15 minues so far), using Problem Size of 37551 and Memory of 10787 by selecting All, no BSOD was found (remember, I tested on base clock.).


LOL...I didn't see this next page until I posted again.
 
So bottom line at this point is:
You can't run memtest with all sticks or even any one by themselves?
You can't even boot with your last tested good OC with a 186 Bclk?
But with either Prime or LinX at stock clocks, all is good?
 
If you did pass your LinX run successfully, why don't you try using the "Dummy OC" setting in the BIOS just to see what happens running either Prime or LinX.
 
Also, do you know for a fact what your ram voltage and timings are?  That what's printed on each stick is what you have set in your BIOS.
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/10 07:19:53 (permalink)
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I did a stress test on Prime95, is it another option to test all RAM?

I am having the same issue for Mem86+, nothing happens. It's freezing for no reason.. even on 4.1


Ok bud.  I have to call it quits for today.  I'll be back on tomorrow morning sometime.  Let me know how your testing goes.  We need to get to the bottom of this so we can get back to the OC'ing...

NP, Updates:
1- Memtest86: Went into base clock, putted in the first slot each one by one each of my GSkills memory. Everytime it froze on the screen I showed you before.
2- Memtest86: Same as #1 + Tried going into my latest stable OC, can't boot into windows.... :/
3- Went into base clock, tried going into windows and worked. I currently doing linx for 1 full time (15 minues so far), using Problem Size of 37551 and Memory of 10787 by selecting All, no BSOD was found (remember, I tested on base clock.).


LOL...I didn't see this next page until I posted again.

So bottom line at this point is:
You can't run memtest with all sticks or even any one by themselves? I went into base clock and were able to boot into windows, run Linx 1 full time (18 minutes) and Prime95 for an hour. I was able to run a full Memtest86 v2.11 (because as I said before, I can't use v4+ for some reasons since it freezes.)
You can't even boot with your last tested good OC with a 186 Bclk? I tried before going again into base clock, couldn't even see the windows boot logo as it crashed and instantly reboots.
But with either Prime or LinX at stock clocks, all is good? Perfect. Linx worked like mentionned and Prime95 had good temps.

If you did pass your LinX run successfully, why don't you try using the "Dummy OC" setting in the BIOS just to see what happens running either Prime or LinX. That's what I'd like to do next. I'm at work but I can't wait to get back home :/

Also, do you know for a fact what your ram voltage and timings are?  That what's printed on each stick is what you have set in your BIOS. I loaded defaults, so they were setted to auto for all the test. I remember that it is 9 9 9 24 and v1.5 for settings, timings.. I don't know..
 
Bottom line: I'll try Dummy OC at home, I'll give you insight of what I get as results. I waited all the 3 Passes of Memtest86, so I can say the results are 100% accurate.
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/10 07:26:13 (permalink)
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bdary

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I did a stress test on Prime95, is it another option to test all RAM?

I am having the same issue for Mem86+, nothing happens. It's freezing for no reason.. even on 4.1


Ok bud.  I have to call it quits for today.  I'll be back on tomorrow morning sometime.  Let me know how your testing goes.  We need to get to the bottom of this so we can get back to the OC'ing...

NP, Updates:
1- Memtest86: Went into base clock, putted in the first slot each one by one each of my GSkills memory. Everytime it froze on the screen I showed you before.
2- Memtest86: Same as #1 + Tried going into my latest stable OC, can't boot into windows.... :/
3- Went into base clock, tried going into windows and worked. I currently doing linx for 1 full time (15 minues so far), using Problem Size of 37551 and Memory of 10787 by selecting All, no BSOD was found (remember, I tested on base clock.).


LOL...I didn't see this next page until I posted again.

So bottom line at this point is:
You can't run memtest with all sticks or even any one by themselves? I went into base clock and were able to boot into windows, run Linx 1 full time (18 minutes) and Prime95 for an hour. I was able to run a full Memtest86 v2.11 (because as I said before, I can't use v4+ for some reasons since it freezes.)
You can't even boot with your last tested good OC with a 186 Bclk? I tried before going again into base clock, couldn't even see the windows boot logo as it crashed and instantly reboots.
But with either Prime or LinX at stock clocks, all is good? Perfect. Linx worked like mentionned and Prime95 had good temps.

If you did pass your LinX run successfully, why don't you try using the "Dummy OC" setting in the BIOS just to see what happens running either Prime or LinX. That's what I'd like to do next. I'm at work but I can't wait to get back home :/

Also, do you know for a fact what your ram voltage and timings are?  That what's printed on each stick is what you have set in your BIOS. I loaded defaults, so they were setted to auto for all the test. I remember that it is 9 9 9 24 and v1.5 for settings, timings.. I don't know..

Bottom line: I'll try Dummy OC at home, I'll give you insight of what I get as results. I waited all the 3 Passes of Memtest86, so I can say the results are 100% accurate.


Ok.  Sounds good.  I'm going to look into those 4.x versions of Memtest.  Maybe they're for newer ram or something.  Can't say I've ever heard of that, but who knows.  Am curious to find out how your Dummy OC boots up and runs.  Talk to you later.

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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/10 07:27:36 (permalink)
Thanks for all the help! I wish I could help you as much as you did/are help/ing me....!
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/10 07:33:37 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the help! I wish I could help you as much as you did/are help/ing me....!


Hey, NP bud.  I just hope we can get you squared away here with a decent OC...

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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/10 08:04:49 (permalink)
Hey bud, here's the memtest I use when the need arises.  I believe it to be accurate and I also like that it tests the ram while in Windows.  It works for 32bit & 64bit systems.  The only thing I don't know is if it works on Win8, but you could try it if you like.
 
http://hcidesign.com/memtest

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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/10 08:05:49 (permalink)
I'll take a look thanks!
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/10 15:56:06 (permalink)
Hi, I tested 3-4 times 2048 RAM, and Prime95'ed and Linx'ed for an hour each (which I think makes the Dummy OC pretty stable).
 
What do you think?
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/11 10:27:15 (permalink)
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Hi, I tested 3-4 times 2048 RAM, and Prime95'ed and Linx'ed for an hour each (which I think makes the Dummy OC pretty stable).

What do you think?


I'd say so then.  What was the CPU clock speed with the Dummy OC?  Curious to know.

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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/11 10:55:37 (permalink)
3.2 If I remember correctly, Double check at home :p
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/11 11:13:05 (permalink)
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3.2 If I remember correctly, Double check at home :p


Ok.  Here's what I'd like you try when you get home or have the chance:
 
On the Memory Feature page, make sure the mem control setting is on standard and the frequency is 2:8.
 
On the main frequency/voltage menu, make sure to disable dummy OC.  Set your CPU clock ratio (multi) to 20 and your host freq. (bclk) to 181.  Make sure the CPU uncore freq is at (x16).
 
On the voltage control page, set vdroop to disabled.  Set CPU vcore to 1.375v.  CPU vtt to +200mv.  QPI PLL to 1.35v.  Dimm voltage to 1.50v.  All others to "Auto"
 
Then run 10 runs of LinX with a problem size of 30,000.  If you can, get a screen shot of the LinX report screen if it passes and post it here. 
  
 
EDIT:  Also, if it passes LinX, then increase the Bclk ONLY, to 186 and run the same test again.  Leave everything else as is.  Get another screen shot if it passes.
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/11 16:59:56 (permalink)
Hi,
 
Dummy OC Settings:
CPU Clock : 20X
CPU Host Frequency: 160
Target CPU Frequency 3367 (160 x 21)
Target Memory Frequency (1280 MHz)
 
I really was mad today, my friend has the Ivy Bridge 3770K with Asrock MOBO, he can "Dummy OC" up to 4.8 GHZ without any modifications. I tried the 4.0 and got decent temps, arround 55-60 in average, then tried 4.2 and since he has a H60 (and not a 100i like I have), his temps were around 75-77.. so he didn't want to go further.
 
ANYWAY, should I put my RAM specs ? (9-9-9-24) ? (Started the test 13 minutes ago)
I'll take a look at the edit once I did 10 times LinX!
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/11 19:35:39 (permalink)
Hum.. it's been 2 hours elapsed.. on the first time.. is it normal??
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/11 21:20:08 (permalink)
Edit: It's been now 3 hours 44 minutes... is it normal? (I'll let it run over the night but, seems excessive...)
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/11 22:24:55 (permalink)
Edit (Again): 4 hours 49 minutes (on the same test!). I'm starting to think there's a bug... lol. I'll let it go.
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 04:03:41 (permalink)
https://www.dropbox.com/s.vuzjquj1lhsfx2/Proof.PNG Still going... 10 hours.
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 09:11:50 (permalink)
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https://www.dropbox.com/s.vuzjquj1lhsfx2/Proof.PNG Still going... 10 hours.


I see the elapsed time there, but the graph not filling in.  10 runs at that speed should take maybe 4 - 5 min per run and look similar to this pic of 1 of my LinX runs.
 


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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 09:35:55 (permalink)
https://www.dropbox.com/s..9i93ngkd9op6/Proof2.PNG Well, 15 hours. What do I do?
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 09:42:21 (permalink)
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https://www.dropbox.com/s..9i93ngkd9op6/Proof2.PNG Well, 15 hours. What do I do?


Shut it down and close the program.  The time you said you ran LinX successfully, did it look like the pic I posted above for LinX?  If so, re-start LinX and run again.  If you don't see the 1st line of the graph fill in after 9 minutes, close it down, somethings wrong.

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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 10:10:38 (permalink)
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https://www.dropbox.com/s..9i93ngkd9op6/Proof2.PNG Well, 15 hours. What do I do?


If for some reason LinX just won't work right (run) on your system, try this >>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html     Just always watch your CPU temps while running this.

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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 11:12:29 (permalink)
intelburntest worked 10 times on Standard level without any trouble, did not go over 70 for temps
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 12:12:52 (permalink)
What's next?
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 12:35:27 (permalink)
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What's next?


Great.  What Bclk and multi were you running?  And were your voltages set up the way I mentioned in post #135 ??

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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 12:47:47 (permalink)
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GPU ( EVGA GTX570 )        
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Frequency Control    
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )                                                                                             
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 181 )                                                                          
MCH Strap ( Auto )    
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto )                                                    
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )    
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )    
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 )   
    
Memory Feature            
Memory Speed ( Standard )    
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )    
Memory Frequency ( 1067Mhz / 2:8 )                                                                    
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )    
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )    
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )    
tCL Setting ( Auto ) (should be 9)
tRCD Setting ( Auto ) (should be 9)  
tRP Setting ( Auto ) (should be 9) 
tRAS Setting ( Auto ) (should be 24)  
tRFC Setting ( Auto )    
Command Rate ( Auto )    
tRL ( +0 )    

Voltage Control    
EVGA VDroop Control ( With VDroop )    
CPU VCore ( 1.37500v )                                                                                                    
CPU VTT Voltage ( +200mV )    
CPU PLL VCore ( Auto )    
**IOH PLL VCore ( Auto )     
DIMM Voltage ( 1.5V )    
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )    
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.350V )    
IOH VCore ( Auto )   
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )    
ICH VCore ( Auto )    
PWM Frequency ( 800 KHz )    

CPU Feature    
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )    
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )    
CxE Function ( Disabled )    
Execute Disable Bit ( Enabled )    
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )    
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )    
Active Processor Cores ( All )    
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )    
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )    
QPI Frequency Selection ( Auto )    

PnP/PCI     PCI Express    
Maximum Payload Size ( 128 )    
     
Power Management Setup    
ACPI Suspend Type ( S1(POS) )       
HPET Support ( Enabled )         
HPET Mode ( 32-bit )    
Is what I currently have
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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 13:00:52 (permalink)
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Mother Board ( EVGA X58 3SLI SN : 312 )      
CPU ( i7 920) (DO)                        
CPU Cooler ( Corsair H100i (Push-Pull Configuration) )    
Memory ( GSkills Triple Channel 12 GB DDR3 )    
PSU ( Thermaltake ToughPower 750W )    
GPU ( EVGA GTX570 )        
Operating System ( Windows 8 x64 )    

Frequency Control    
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )                                                                                             
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 181 )                                                                          
MCH Strap ( Auto )    
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto )                                                    
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )    
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )    
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 )   
   
Memory Feature            
Memory Speed ( Standard )    
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )    
Memory Frequency ( 1067Mhz / 2:8 )                                                                    
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )    
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )    
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )    
tCL Setting ( Auto ) (should be 9)         (Set these 4 settings manually.)
tRCD Setting ( Auto ) (should be 9)  
tRP Setting ( Auto ) (should be 9) 
tRAS Setting ( Auto ) (should be 24)  
tRFC Setting ( Auto )    
Command Rate ( Auto )    
tRL ( +0 )    

Voltage Control    
EVGA VDroop Control ( With VDroop )       (Without Vdroop)
CPU VCore ( 1.37500v )                                                                                                    
CPU VTT Voltage ( +200mV )    
CPU PLL VCore ( Auto )    
**IOH PLL VCore ( Auto )     
DIMM Voltage ( 1.5V )    
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )    
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.350V )    
IOH VCore ( Auto )   
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )    
ICH VCore ( Auto )    
PWM Frequency ( 800 KHz )    

CPU Feature    
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )    
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )     (Disabled)
CxE Function ( Disabled )    
Execute Disable Bit ( Enabled )    
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )    
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )    
Active Processor Cores ( All )    
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )    
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )    
QPI Frequency Selection ( Auto )    

PnP/PCI     PCI Express    
Maximum Payload Size ( 128 )     (Set to 4096)
    
Power Management Setup    
ACPI Suspend Type ( S1(POS) )       
HPET Support ( Enabled )         
HPET Mode ( 32-bit )               (Set to 64bit)
Is what I currently have

Ok.  Make the changes I noted in parenthesis above to the right of your current settings.
 
Then re-run the test for 5 runs, but set the "Stress Level" to at least Very high, or Maximum to really know you're CPU & Ram combined are very stable.  Once we reach your goal OC, then you should do a 10 run test to verify you're good to go. 
 
EDIT:    I missed the Vdroop setting.  You show it's enabled.  Disable that as well.
post edited by bdary - 2013/06/12 13:04:52

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Re:X58 Still! Need help with OC 2013/06/12 13:25:32 (permalink)
BSOD on boot, Windows 8 says "The BIOS isn't compatible with ACPI, Error Code 0xc0000225" for some reasons... Any ideas ? I tried switching to S3 for ACPI but I still have the same issue.
 
EDIT: Sorry it seems I disabled it for no reasons. :)
post edited by xboxnissan - 2013/06/12 13:28:04
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