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2010/02/16 15:25:51 (permalink)
http://www.theinquirer.ne...n-update-won-hit-china

I really don't want this to turn into a microsoft bashing thread I just thought you should know and have the choice if you want it or not as they are pretty sneaky at adding stuff in updates that could cause problems down the track.    
God knows I have had to reregister my XP about 20 times since I have had it because I keep changing the hardware.

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/17 10:11:34 (permalink)
    This update is simply to stop unauthorized copies of Microsoft Windows 7 operating system from being used. If you have a perfectly legal copy you have nothing to worry about

                
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/17 10:29:01 (permalink)
    I wonder how this will effect a backed up image of your drive? When I do a clean install I update everything and set everything the way I like it then image my drive, so if I want a clean install it doesn,t take as long. According to the article windows update will check every 90 days.What if you restore your drive with an image older than 90 days?

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/17 10:48:34 (permalink)
    for the people that love torrents. all hacked version of  2007  office  enterprise/ all versions are now showing up invalid in due time. with all of theses fun updates. If you are a student try ultimate steal or dream spark for cheap/free software. if you need office and a legal version win 7  software, get a tech net plus subscription for$ 349.   You then have acces to tons of softwere and 10 licences of most Microsoft products. vista, win 7, office ultimate,  office pro plus, server 2008. (one stipulation you can only install the software on computer you own).

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/17 14:18:30 (permalink)
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    This update is simply to stop unauthorized copies of Microsoft Windows 7 operating system from being used. If you have a perfectly legal copy you have nothing to worry about


    That's not the point.  The point is why do we pay Microsoft just so they can spy on us and treat us like criminals.  Some people like their privacy and don't need or want Microsoft checking up on their copy of Windows every 3 months (which is what this new policy will enforce).

    It's similar to a line Benjamin Franklin once said that basically states that those who are willing to sacrifice freedoms or liberty to gain temporary security deserve neither.

    Also I know some people and some cases where they do not use an internet connection on workstations that must remain secure.  These copies will now stat to deactivate if the user cannot complete the check every 3 months.  It's just more hassle that we shouldn't have to worry about in the first place.

    Yes, I understand it wont affect the vast majority but there are still effects to some and it is still a pretty crappy and unnecessary move on Microsoft's part.


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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/17 15:00:20 (permalink)
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    rjohnson11

    This update is simply to stop unauthorized copies of Microsoft Windows 7 operating system from being used. If you have a perfectly legal copy you have nothing to worry about


    That's not the point.  The point is why do we pay Microsoft just so they can spy on us and treat us like criminals.  Some people like their privacy and don't need or want Microsoft checking up on their copy of Windows every 3 months (which is what this new policy will enforce).

    It's similar to a line Benjamin Franklin once said that basically states that those who are willing to sacrifice freedoms or liberty to gain temporary security deserve neither.

    Also I know some people and some cases where they do not use an internet connection on workstations that must remain secure.  These copies will now stat to deactivate if the user cannot complete the check every 3 months.  It's just more hassle that we shouldn't have to worry about in the first place.

    Yes, I understand it wont affect the vast majority but there are still effects to some and it is still a pretty crappy and unnecessary move on Microsoft's part.


    So your point is software companies should do nothing to protect their IP? Do you realize you don't have to use any of MS's products? You have that freedom of choice. Lastly this is OPTIONAL so your claim of the software being deactivated is entirely bogus.

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/17 15:36:47 (permalink)
    I just worry because alot of people don't check what they are updating from microsoft they just click away like good little lemmings.

    Why does this new update annoy me,
    One of my last windows updates froze my registration and I had a job application to finish by midnight in was 11:30pm and the strange thing was I did not change anything in my rig for about a year or so, Anyway I had to ring and get a new code after 20 minutes waiting they gave me a new code and I put it all in it was just a hassle and no appology from Microsoft just oh well sucked in have a nice day. So if its optional you should know about it and make an informed choice to install or not to install more security crapware from MS, after all I did not know my last windows update was going to check and freeze my registration I could have said no until I finished my job application.

                                       
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/17 16:55:53 (permalink)
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    This is the update you are talking about.
    It can be uninstalled, if not wanted.
    Or , it's always possible to change to Linux at no extra cost.
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/17 17:10:18 (permalink)
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    It's similar to a line Benjamin Franklin once said that basically states that those who are willing to sacrifice freedoms or liberty to gain temporary security deserve neither.



    Yes, But Mr Franklin was an Apple man, so he didn't have these Issues.

      
         
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/18 00:38:01 (permalink)
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    sirmasterboy


    It's similar to a line Benjamin Franklin once said that basically states that those who are willing to sacrifice freedoms or liberty to gain temporary security deserve neither.



    Yes, But Mr Franklin was an Apple man, so he didn't have these Issues.






     

     

     

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/18 04:19:27 (permalink)
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    sirmasterboy


    It's similar to a line Benjamin Franklin once said that basically states that those who are willing to sacrifice freedoms or liberty to gain temporary security deserve neither.



    Yes, But Mr Franklin was an Apple man, so he didn't have these Issues.


    now that was a comback. you should really work for Apple


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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 03:21:13 (permalink)
    This is the new Windows Activation update to detect piracy and exploits.  My copy is legit, however I am still a little hesitant to install this one.  My understanding that once installed it will periodically scan your activation code and send it back to Microsoft to prove authenticity, and if the scan deems your Windows is not authentic you will receive warnings and screen interruptions until you fix it with Microsoft.  I guess I just don't like the thought of this happening.  But Microsoft assures us there is nothing to worry about if your copy is legit.  I am giving myself some time to research and think about it before I install.


     
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 04:45:26 (permalink)
    if you have nothing to worry about, install it, let it do it's thing..and uninstall it...it's what i did..simple as that! OR simply do not install it..it's optional for cryin out loud..

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 06:37:24 (permalink)
    Anyone who "trusts" Microsoft is a fool and a idiot.

    "Microsoft assures us there is nothing to worry about if your copy is legit"

    Being a Microsoft customer since 1979 and having bought EVERY OS they ever made, I made the mistake of installing the 3rd WGA update for Windows XP in 2005...
    -Only to find out that it had rendered my (PAID) $295 copy of XP Pro useless for any re-installs-
    Microsoft had decided (without informing me) that it was changing the terms of my original licence and killing my disk (with the WGA update)

    It was only after weeks of phone calls, e-mails and a personal threat to visit Microsoft in a violent manner, that I was sent a new "free" XP Pro disk to replace the one I had originaly bought.

    Since the day I recived my "free" replacement disk, Microsoft has never made one more red cent off me... and never will.

    I will not be treated in such a manner, as a paying customer.

    This was in 2005. Today, Microsoft if anything has become MUCH worse in the way it treats its paying customers. And MUCH MUCH worse in its OS licence terms.

    Dont think for one minute that its new WGA update is anything a paying customer should have to install.

    What ever happened to registering your software and then being free to use it?

    Oh yeah, thats right... Microsoft "Killed it" in favor of secret licence changes and trying to force you to buy its newest OS with a "WGA" update.



    Just say No to Microsoft

    Just say No, to paying for things you are not given a proper and fair licence to use.

    Just say no to installing Windows updates that are undefined contract marketing tricks that are malware for customers that PAID for the product!! While all the people who didnt pay for it dont have such problems. 

    Do-->  contact the US Dept of Justice and tell them to start doing their damn job with Microsoft, in its licence contracts with customers and its installing of "updates" that effectively render a (paid for) product useless.
     
    Without any doubt whatsoever, the current "WGA Update" will kill your licence and render your (Paid for) Windows 7 product useless around the time Windows 8 is released.
    What kind of "update" is that?
     
    I will buy Microsoft operating systems when they use an honest and open registration, and my product licence is transferable to whatever build I see fit to install it on. Microsoft seems to feel that I owe them money every 3-4 years... and If I dont want to buy their "new" product (for whatever reason), then they will "force" me to.
     
    Goodluck with that Microsoft 
     
    I for one, will keep e-mailing abuse to the Microsoft ESC Dept.. until they wake up and stop sending me free disks
     
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 06:56:01 (permalink)
    The thread title should have "optional" added to it. I just got a notification for a windows update and even though the "activation exploit fix" is under the important tab, it's not automatically checked. That made me want to read whats it's all about. Even if you set windows update to automatically update, it's not gonna install the fix without you knowing.

    I dont think it's a big deal. S***s for the pirates though, have to find new ways to crack windows. Legit user like me can just use windows like normal.
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 07:23:21 (permalink)
    The reason that this update is fail is because it didn't actually fix the activation hack.  Hacked activations of Windows since Vista have always been implemented by using leaked OEM keys from companies like Dell, Gateway, HP and others.  If they patched Windows so that these hacked activations would shut down, then so would all the of users who bought their copies from said companies.  I just don't see Microsoft ever doing this.


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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 07:52:39 (permalink)
    Well, if it gets installed now then it will be of your own choosing. I just checked for pending updates and this is what was show. 7 important updates but as you can see, 1033 is unchecked. I did not uncheck it myself. So I guess Microsoft has opted to make the important update not so important. Basically it's optional.
     
     

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 08:57:53 (permalink)
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    Well, if it gets installed now then it will be of your own choosing. I just checked for pending updates and this is what was show. 7 important updates but as you can see, 1033 is unchecked. I did not uncheck it myself. So I guess Microsoft has opted to make the important update not so important. Basically it's optional.
     
     


    This just seems odd, because if it is something Microsoft is trying to implement to prevent piracy it seems like it would be a mandatory install and even hidden inside of another update so you wouldn't even be aware you were installing it.

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 09:15:57 (permalink)
    At Maniac...

    Well, I'll be honest.  I'm about the furthest thing from a MS fanboy there possibly can be.  It's not that I dislike them.  They do make several nice products.  I just prefer a different platform.

    Having said that, I do use Windows (gaming, of course).  I have never had any real issue with their license or activation (other than the nagging reminder every time I have to do a re-install or re-config).  If anything ever went wrong, I just called their hotline and voila...problem fixed.

    While I do not agree with a lot of their practices (actually, I disagree with many), I also understand it is their software and not mine.  They, technically speaking, have the right to do as they see fit.  If I don't like it, I don't buy it.  Pretty simple.

    Alternatives?  There is *nix.  Thankfully, every single thing I need to do with my computing can be done on *nix (except for newer games, hence I have Windows).  Obviously anti-piracy measures on FreeBSD are non-existent.  ;>).  I can do whatever I like, whenever I like, with whatever I like...and not have to worry about any invasive procedures from MS.  You can't pirate something that is already free and open ;>).

    While this works for me, I know it is not for everyone and MS offers a decent enough platform for the majority of computer users.  In short, hating MS for one bad experience is no justification to call for their beheading ;>).  You have alternatives after all.  Whether or not you choose to exercise these is really up to you.  Apple is a bit more restrictive than MS...which is quite odd in itself.

    And yes, I've used MS products for decades as well.  



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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 09:24:06 (permalink)
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    Well, if it gets installed now then it will be of your own choosing. I just checked for pending updates and this is what was show. 7 important updates but as you can see, 1033 is unchecked. I did not uncheck it myself. So I guess Microsoft has opted to make the important update not so important. Basically it's optional.
     
     


    Same for me. It shows up unchecked. I always read what all the updates do as some of the "recommended" updates are not good or something I really don't need.

    This would be a great update to run after someone installed the OS on your computer and charged you. You would have indisputable proof that they scammed you and could actually call the police on them for mass software piracy.

    I think, under the right circumstance, this is a very good thing.

    Just run it, uninstall it and hide it after. No problems.

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/24 19:24:37 (permalink)
    simply install only the updates that you need. you dont need this update weather your running a hack copy or legit,do you really need these issues with microsoft? there rep isn't that great and these updates will one day cause problems im sure. I will leave it like this this, Microsoft is not a very sucure OS if they are so worried about people hacking it. I know people that have been hacking it since day one and have had no problems,nor have been exploited.hhhmmmm makes you think.

                                           
                                                               
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/25 05:25:52 (permalink)
    Alright, I already installed it not knowing what it was. I have a genuine copy, but I really don't like this kind of intrusion so I would like to remove this update. I wonder, though, if you remove it do you come under some kind of scrutiny also? Maybe I'm paranoid - I use MS systems all legally, but I trust them only to look after their own interest not mine.

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/25 09:12:24 (permalink)
    just remove it or download load it, if the update is going to casue problem then its going regaurdless of what you do

                                           
                                                               
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/25 09:34:20 (permalink)
    Wow Microsoft is really bringing down the hammer. 1st the xbox 360 ban, now windows 7, office 03-07. They dont want to let any change loose do they  ?



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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/25 17:42:39 (permalink)
    well lets just say there not doing a very good job

                                           
                                                               
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/02/26 00:44:02 (permalink)
    If some of you are so unhappy with MS, just don't use their products. Problem solved. Nobody is forcing you to use it. Pirating is not the solution though it seem to be tacitly supported by some.

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/03/11 11:11:09 (permalink)
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    If some of you are so unhappy with MS, just don't use their products. Problem solved. Nobody is forcing you to use it. Pirating is not the solution though it seem to be tacitly supported by some.


    IN all honesty, companies DO, in fact, force you to use MS products. Game support for other platforms is almost nonexistent. Please don't give me the "then move to consoles" tidbit. People like better graphics, and being able to customize their systems. Now, with that said, I love MS, I have only had like one tiny problem with them, and I plan on using their products, until something better comes out. just like I thought vista was a decent OS when everything was fixed. MS has  their problems, and yea, they are pretty much evil imo, but hey, whatever works. I love em and hate em.

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/03/11 18:00:52 (permalink)
    MODERATOR CORRECTS YOU    - enough said ...
    post edited by Delirious. - 2010/03/11 21:15:13

                                       
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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/03/11 21:19:07 (permalink)
    Please, no posting of hack programs in the forums. 

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    Re:Windows 7 anti piracy windows update 2010/03/12 16:16:59 (permalink)
    Delirious.

    Please, no posting of hack programs in the forums. 


    I do understand this but I see Microsofts inclusion of this copy protection as spyware any software I can find to remove it I would class as spyware removal software. The fact the above software can be used for other more sinister applications is regretable.
    The question still remains if you install this update do you really think that removing the update will entirely remove the software?? I offer the following eg Microsoft may be acting less aggressive but they are still being sneaky. Users should be told what is being installed on their computers particularly after all they paid for it !!! You should not be presumed to be a pirate then have to prove your not after you have already registered your product key.
    "I'd like to stress that the Update is voluntary, which means that you can choose not to install it when you see it appear on Windows Update," said Williams in an entry to the Genuine Windows blog.
    That's counter to the practice Microsoft used in 2006, when it force fed Windows XP customers a WGA update by labeling it as a high-priority security update. Several users sued Microsoft over that behavior; the lawsuit was officially dismissed just last week. Since then, the company's anti-piracy software updates have been less aggressive.
     
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    post edited by Darron - 2010/03/12 16:29:00

                                       
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