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2014/10/30 06:37:46 (permalink)
So I have built PC's for the last 15+ years. Never have gone water cooled. I guess I just have never really read into it much. Didn't really see the bennifit over air really since the lithography of the chips have really shrunk down. So I have some questions.
 
1.) What should I buy? Where should I buy from? Looking for the durable longer lasting, less pain in the butt hardware. Whats the best products or well, best bang for buck?
2.) How often does the coolant need to be changed or filled?
3.) How big of tubes do I need? What is the standard that the EVGA Hydro cards use? I would probably just go with that standard?
 
I want to start with 2 hydro 980's and include my CPU, should I run them in seperate loops? I see nateman_doo is making water blocks for the chipsets, does the chipset really get that hot? Or do most of you guys just really like a 100% water cooler rig?
 
Any advice on this would be great, thanks in advance!

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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 07:17:54 (permalink)
    I would run separate loops if you have the funds. I use mostly Ek items for my cooling set up, but I have switched out my radiators for xspc rather than Ek.

    A lot of people use bits power and monsoon. I will be using all monsoon fittings and tubing for my x99 setup.

    If you go soft tubing, aim for Primochill Advanced LRT or like tubing (no plasticizers). If you decide on rigid tubing, plan to bend the tubing or get hundreds of fittings. If you don't bend the tubing, you run less of a risk having to figure out the bending process, but if you do decide to, good grief does it come out beautiful.
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 07:37:04 (permalink)
    I agree love my EK stuff, just made the move to a REAL water cooling. I got this kit form frozencpu .com EK X240 Complete Dual 120mm Liquid Cooling Kit it has just about everything needed to start. Now I am just waiting on my water block's for my 980's to arrive.
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 07:38:21 (permalink)
    1. Frozencpu.com

    2. Add silver kill coil to loop or biocide so it prevents loop from growing bacteria. Can drain loop every 6 months or so. I have heard of people not changing loops for a year + without any problems.

    3. I like 1/2 x 3/4" tubes personally, but there's no "wrong" tube size. Unless it doesn't bend and kinks easily. Hardline tubing is really cool but I do not recommend it for a first time build.

    You could run everything in one loop but I would only do that if you have a case that can fit several big radiators in it. (Just go to frozencpu.com and they will have everything you need)
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 08:21:50 (permalink)
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    I agree love my EK stuff, just made the move to a REAL water cooling. I got this kit form frozencpu .com EK X240 Complete Dual 120mm Liquid Cooling Kit it has just about everything needed to start. Now I am just waiting on my water block's for my 980's to arrive.


    Is there a reason you didn't go with the 980 Hydro's?

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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 08:25:20 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info folks, I will check out frozencpu.com. I have a Corsair Obsedian 650D tower. It would be nice to fit this all in there... I basically have room for 1 3x120mm radiator. I could maybe squeeze another 2x120 radiator in the very front of the case. But not sure where the pump and the resovoir will fit.

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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 08:38:24 (permalink)
    A 360mm and 240mm should be enough to run both the cpu and gpus in one loop. Maybe look to get a thick 240mm with high fin density. I have a swiftech extreme performance 360mm rad that has worked great for me.

    Also, you could get a bay reservoir that has an attached pump if you're concerned about space.
    post edited by nealb90 - 2014/10/30 08:40:27
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 09:20:18 (permalink)
    They did not have them at the time. Also it is a little cheaper to go with the Ek gpu water blocks.
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 11:27:06 (permalink)
    kmarch
    They did not have them at the time. Also it is a little cheaper to go with the Ek gpu water blocks.

    Makes sense. I will have some time to think about which direction I want to go. Need to save up some cash for some new cards! So will any CPU water block fit just about any socket size? I didn't really see on frozencpu.com were you specify the socket type? Then again I didn't spend a lot of time looking, maybe I missed it?

    Specs:
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    Intel I7 5960x @ 4.3Ghz
    Corsair H100i CPU Cooler
    8x4GB (32GB) G.Skill Ripjaws 4  @
    2400Mhz 15-15-15-35 @ 1.20V
    2x EVGA 580 Classifieds 3GB SLI  @ 900Mhz
    Intel 750 series 1.2TB AIC SSD (Main Drive)
    Intel 730 Series 480GB SSD (Storage Drive)  
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 11:30:40 (permalink)
    I know everyones here to help but this is not the way to go.  Too much information from different angles coming in can confuse this process.  You first and foremost need to read up on water cooling for the basics.  Once you get the gist of it, which I think you do have AN idea of what its about you than move down to what do I need for this much heatload etc.  The difference between high FPI and low FPI rads, along with the speed of the fans etc.  What flow is needed to be efficient.  What case do i need now for these parts and future proofing if you will.  You than purchase the listed parts once you feel are the right water cooling parts for you and others would agree.
     
    If you really want to do this the right way, you always want to do water cooling the right way from the start lol, message me and I'll bring  you to a forums where we specialize in this stuff.
     
    Don't worry, water cooling is a hobby and its fun.  Great temps, silent operations @ full load and of course can be costly. :P  The only thing is the pain staking process of annual tear down clean up that are a pain but other than that its fun.  I am going through the process as we speak somewhat.  Actually my tubing was breaking apart and clogged up my CPU's fin channels.  
     
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 11:50:14 (permalink)
    For the most part I use only Koolance.

    http://koolance.com/

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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 19:34:23 (permalink)
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    For the most part I use only Koolance.

    http://koolance.com/


     
    Koolance is fine.  I use their QDCs as I have 4 sets of them.  The oxidation on them looks gruesome though. lol  I stopped using them and purchased a nice Bitspower drain to put in the lower part of my case.
     
    Koolance is one as are XSPC, Swiftech, Alphacool and EK to name a few.  
     
    Here's a nice beginners video I link to those in our watercooling forums at overclockers.com
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 19:51:46 (permalink)
    What cpu and motherboard are you going to run?
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 19:55:53 (permalink)
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    For the most part I use only Koolance.

    http://koolance.com/


     
    Koolance is fine.  I use their QDCs as I have 4 sets of them.  The oxidation on them looks gruesome though. lol  I stopped using them and purchased a nice Bitspower drain to put in the lower part of my case.
     
    Koolance is one as are XSPC, Swiftech, Alphacool and EK to name a few.  
     
    Here's a nice beginners video I link to those in our watercooling forums at overclockers.com


    Thanks for the advice. I will start small. Hate to invest a ton of money, only to make this an expensive learning curve. I don't have the funds right now, but when I do, I plan to start small. I most likely will start with 2 Hydro 980's. As I think they benefit the most from water cooling. The 5960X I am running is so powerful, I hardly feel the need to OC it much. I would much rather OC the Gcards and keep them running cool. Not to mention I can't stand the high RPM fans, when they get hot in the summer when I am gaming...

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    Corsair H100i CPU Cooler
    8x4GB (32GB) G.Skill Ripjaws 4  @
    2400Mhz 15-15-15-35 @ 1.20V
    2x EVGA 580 Classifieds 3GB SLI  @ 900Mhz
    Intel 750 series 1.2TB AIC SSD (Main Drive)
    Intel 730 Series 480GB SSD (Storage Drive)  
    Corsair AX1200 PSU
    Corsair Obsidian Series 650D Case 
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 19:59:23 (permalink)
    The 980's shouldn't produce much heat for the loop, but that 5960 will, especially if you overclock it. With the small amount of space the 650d is going to offer, one loop will probably be appropriate, but keep a close eye on your temps, so that you can work the overclock to the temp range you need.
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 20:00:44 (permalink)
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    For the most part I use only Koolance.

    http://koolance.com/

    Koolance is fine.  I use their QDCs as I have 4 sets of them.  The oxidation on them looks gruesome though. lol  I stopped using them and purchased a nice Bitspower drain to put in the lower part of my case.
    Koolance is one as are XSPC, Swiftech, Alphacool and EK to name a few.  
    Here's a nice beginners video I link to those in our watercooling forums at overclockers.com


    In the 3 going on 4 yeas I have never seem any oxidation on any of my Koolance Products.
    You must not of used their product:
    $14.99 Koolance LIQ-702 Liquid Coolant Bottle, High-Performance, 700mL (UV Blue)
    Koolance's product warranty does not cover the use of 3rd-party coolants, coolant additives, or corrosion. Koolance LIQ-702 or LIQ-705 coolants are strongly recommended to help avoid issues with mixed metals or biological growth. Additionally, do not use aluminum with bare (unplated) copper or bare (unplated) brass in the same system. Do not use silver with nickel in the same system.

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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 20:17:44 (permalink)
    Maybe it would be wise to look into a larger case. I just don't want a beast of a case. This 650D is large enough under my desk. Corsair makes a 750D that offers a lot more radiator space. I guess I could live with that one. I guess we will see how much money I have to work with...

    Specs:
    EVGA X99 Classified Mobo
    Intel I7 5960x @ 4.3Ghz
    Corsair H100i CPU Cooler
    8x4GB (32GB) G.Skill Ripjaws 4  @
    2400Mhz 15-15-15-35 @ 1.20V
    2x EVGA 580 Classifieds 3GB SLI  @ 900Mhz
    Intel 750 series 1.2TB AIC SSD (Main Drive)
    Intel 730 Series 480GB SSD (Storage Drive)  
    Corsair AX1200 PSU
    Corsair Obsidian Series 650D Case 
    Corsair K70 RGB Keyboard
    EVGA TORQ X10 Mouse

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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 22:05:56 (permalink)
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    For the most part I use only Koolance.

    http://koolance.com/

    Koolance is fine.  I use their QDCs as I have 4 sets of them.  The oxidation on them looks gruesome though. lol  I stopped using them and purchased a nice Bitspower drain to put in the lower part of my case.
    Koolance is one as are XSPC, Swiftech, Alphacool and EK to name a few.  
    Here's a nice beginners video I link to those in our watercooling forums at overclockers.com


    In the 3 going on 4 yeas I have never seem any oxidation on any of my Koolance Products.
    You must not of used their product:
    $14.99 Koolance LIQ-702 Liquid Coolant Bottle, High-Performance, 700mL (UV Blue)
    Koolance's product warranty does not cover the use of 3rd-party coolants, coolant additives, or corrosion. Koolance LIQ-702 or LIQ-705 coolants are strongly recommended to help avoid issues with mixed metals or biological growth. Additionally, do not use aluminum with bare (unplated) copper or bare (unplated) brass in the same system. Do not use silver with nickel in the same system.



    You fall for the marketing I see. :P   Distilled water and a biocide is all you need.  I use a silver strip.  Been going for years.  Oxidization will happen regardless.  Corrosion is always happening but at a much slower rate than it would if you have aluminum in the mix which is a huge no-no in the PC water cooling world.
     
    I only like Koolances QDCs and their WBs. I think they make nice stuff but so do others.  My bitspower compression fittings don't look even close to the Koolance QDCs after usage.  Not sure if its the metal quality or what not but both are brass.  I am guessing bitspower uses a higher quality brass than koolance but in the end they both do their jobs.
     
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    Maybe it would be wise to look into a larger case. I just don't want a beast of a case. This 650D is large enough under my desk. Corsair makes a 750D that offers a lot more radiator space. I guess I could live with that one. I guess we will see how much money I have to work with...


     
    You could go with a 900D and go completely overkill.  ;P    
     
    With those 2 GPUs, you'll have about 500w of heat to dissipate me thinks off the top of my head.  For a rig at full load with OCs all around, 120.6 of heat surface would be efficient enough to run it all virtually silent.  Again, I still think you need to do research but giving you a little information to head you in the right direction. 
     
    Key note, loop order doesn't matter as long as the reservoir is before the pump.  A dry pump is a dead pump.  Whomever doesn't have a reservoir naturally feeding into a pump via gravity, shouldn't be watercooling and is most likely killing the pumps lifespan.
     
    Also, single loops are more common.  To save say .5c-2c in a dual loop isn't worth it for what it would cost.  People don't realize and still go dual loops.  Equilibrium will reach a loop say 30mins after use on full load.  The differences in loop order to dual loop is too small to even acknowledge.  The better delta-temps you want, the more heat surface is needed.  Too much heat surface, like me lol, will result in diminishing returns.
     
    Now go research and look at other peoples builds.  Another key thing is to make sure you have a blueprint of what you need for your loop with the idea of possibly future proofing as well, just in case.  Than go case buying for the amount of space or rads you'll have in it.  People do the biggest mistake and buy a case first than bang their heads on the wall because it won't fit the right amount of rads.
     
    Gasp, ok I am done for now.  lol
     
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 22:09:32 (permalink)
    @corndogg18 the hydro's  or other waters block's is the way to go. About 10c cooler at no load, and so far I have not seen temps over 41c.
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 22:27:16 (permalink)
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    @corndogg18 the hydro's  or other waters block's is the way to go. About 10c cooler at no load, and so far I have not seen temps over 41c.




    When my loop is running efficiently, my GPU will never go above 40c on full load while having 5c-7c delta-temps which is pretty amazing.
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/30 22:33:49 (permalink)
    I agree on that one just finished setting my gpu's on water it is amazing compared to acx coolers that they came with. 
     
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/31 08:14:46 (permalink)
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/31 08:26:18 (permalink)
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    For the most part I use only Koolance.

    http://koolance.com/

    Koolance is fine.  I use their QDCs as I have 4 sets of them.  The oxidation on them looks gruesome though. lol  I stopped using them and purchased a nice Bitspower drain to put in the lower part of my case.
    Koolance is one as are XSPC, Swiftech, Alphacool and EK to name a few.  
    Here's a nice beginners video I link to those in our watercooling forums at overclockers.com


    In the 3 going on 4 yeas I have never seem any oxidation on any of my Koolance Products.
    You must not of used their product:
    $14.99 Koolance LIQ-702 Liquid Coolant Bottle, High-Performance, 700mL (UV Blue)
    Koolance's product warranty does not cover the use of 3rd-party coolants, coolant additives, or corrosion. Koolance LIQ-702 or LIQ-705 coolants are strongly recommended to help avoid issues with mixed metals or biological growth. Additionally, do not use aluminum with bare (unplated) copper or bare (unplated) brass in the same system. Do not use silver with nickel in the same system.



    You fall for the marketing I see. :P   Distilled water and a biocide is all you need.  I use a silver strip.  Been going for years.  Oxidization will happen regardless.  Corrosion is always happening but at a much slower rate than it would if you have aluminum in the mix which is a huge no-no in the PC water cooling world.
     
    I only like Koolances QDCs and their WBs. I think they make nice stuff but so do others.  My bitspower compression fittings don't look even close to the Koolance QDCs after usage.  Not sure if its the metal quality or what not but both are brass.  I am guessing bitspower uses a higher quality brass than koolance but in the end they both do their jobs.
     
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    Maybe it would be wise to look into a larger case. I just don't want a beast of a case. This 650D is large enough under my desk. Corsair makes a 750D that offers a lot more radiator space. I guess I could live with that one. I guess we will see how much money I have to work with...


     
    You could go with a 900D and go completely overkill.  ;P    
     
    With those 2 GPUs, you'll have about 500w of heat to dissipate me thinks off the top of my head.  For a rig at full load with OCs all around, 120.6 of heat surface would be efficient enough to run it all virtually silent.  Again, I still think you need to do research but giving you a little information to head you in the right direction. 
     
    Key note, loop order doesn't matter as long as the reservoir is before the pump.  A dry pump is a dead pump.  Whomever doesn't have a reservoir naturally feeding into a pump via gravity, shouldn't be watercooling and is most likely killing the pumps lifespan.
     
    Also, single loops are more common.  To save say .5c-2c in a dual loop isn't worth it for what it would cost.  People don't realize and still go dual loops.  Equilibrium will reach a loop say 30mins after use on full load.  The differences in loop order to dual loop is too small to even acknowledge.  The better delta-temps you want, the more heat surface is needed.  Too much heat surface, like me lol, will result in diminishing returns.
     
    Now go research and look at other peoples builds.  Another key thing is to make sure you have a blueprint of what you need for your loop with the idea of possibly future proofing as well, just in case.  Than go case buying for the amount of space or rads you'll have in it.  People do the biggest mistake and buy a case first than bang their heads on the wall because it won't fit the right amount of rads.
     
    Gasp, ok I am done for now.  lol
     


    "You fall for the marketing I see. :P" No you are so far from reality.

    gtxjackbauer Don't take the fun out of building a Water Based Rig.
    Each user creates their computer, no one really copies other users rig but get ideas.
    You seem to not like Koolance Products that is fine but I no reason to slam them.
    It is not different then you driving a Ford and I drive a Nissan.
     
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/31 09:04:56 (permalink)
     
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    "You fall for the marketing I see. :P" No you are so far from reality.

    gtxjackbauer Don't take the fun out of building a Water Based Rig.
    Each user creates their computer, no one really copies other users rig but get ideas.
    You seem to not like Koolance Products that is fine but I no reason to slam them.
    It is not different then you driving a Ford and I drive a Nissan.
     

     
    How so?  :P
     
    Its not about copying but putting ideas together for a smooth transition and good looking rig.  Trial and errors from others will pay off on your end.
     
    I am not slaming Koolance, especially when I own some of their stuff.  Pointing out something with each product is a good thing, not a bad.  I can name a few things the other companies have had issues with as well.  To me you sound like a koolance fan boy. lol  I am j/k, have some fun.
     
    As for the OP, again I would advise on not jumping on case buying till you know exactly what your final loop will consist of.  In general there are a lot of new water cool friendly case designs out there.  You'll have time to pick one when that time comes.
     
    Bcavnaugh, obviously we have different ways of getting into H20.  I researched for almost 9 months before I assembled my first custom water cooling rig 3+ years ago.  I've read tons and have my own experiences as well as learned from many others with 10+ years of experience under their belts.  I just think being open minded is the best way to go on and research as much as possible to be ready for anything that might come your way, let alone the maintenance that is involved in keeping up a loop.  Some have the wallets for mistakes, others don't.  I sure don't. heh
     
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/31 12:45:03 (permalink)
     
    @OP you can really start small and ghetto if you just want to play around and get your feet wet.  Simple D5 pump, barbs instead of fancy shmancy compression fittings, and leaving everything external to your case instead of spending time trying to tuck everything in.  You'll save a lot of money and headache, but it won't look pretty.  That's how I started off...learned a lot about getting air bubbles out of the system, where to put valves and drain ports, where to place the pump (below the reservoir = way better), etc.  It escalated quickly from there where now my setup is pretty much one of a kind insanity...in terms of functionality.  Appearance wise my loop isn't anything special and I'm fine with that.
     
    Also, single loops are more common.  To save say .5c-2c in a dual loop isn't worth it for what it would cost.  People don't realize and still go dual loops.  Equilibrium will reach a loop say 30mins after use on full load.  The differences in loop order to dual loop is too small to even acknowledge.  The better delta-temps you want, the more heat surface is needed.  Too much heat surface, like me lol, will result in diminishing returns.
     
    There's other reasons besides just temperature performance to have more than one loop.  Most builds are fine with 1 loop though.
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/31 14:33:27 (permalink)
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    There's other reasons besides just temperature performance to have more than one loop.  
     



    Please elaborate in case I must have missed something.  Not sure why else would someone do two loops other than for the minimal temp differences.  Are you talking about for looks or theme of the loop?

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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/31 16:07:27 (permalink)
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    There's other reasons besides just temperature performance to have more than one loop.  
     



    Please elaborate in case I must have missed something.  Not sure why else would someone do two loops other than for the minimal temp differences.  Are you talking about for looks or theme of the loop?




    -You might have routing issues in certain situations where you can't go from A->B and it's easier to make a new loop.  This can be functional or cosmetic where you're doing it for looks or because you don't want to have to do weird loop-d-loops with tubing to make a connection.
    -Dual loops are lower pressure on your pumps.  If you load up too much stuff on one loop then you have to add more pumps to get decent flow.  More pumps = more pressure = more risk of leaks, even with hose clamps.  This was the primary problem and reason I went dual loops.  Computer watercooling stuff isn't meant to handle high pressures.
    -Dual loops make it easier to replace just the cpu block or just the gpu block.  A single loop you'd either be draining your whole loop or need strategic valve placement.  I have both dual loops and valves so I can replace a video card or whatever and only need to refill a minimal amount of coolant. 
     
    The only downside to multiple loops is cost is multiple as well.  Separate reservoir, separate pump, more tubing, separate rad, more fittings, etc.
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/31 16:48:24 (permalink)
    I think with all do respect the reasons are too minimal for the added cost.  Distilled water is cheap, most water cooling gear is much less resistant than the old day and age ones.  One pump like a D5 and MCP-35x can handle a fairly complex loop.  I highly doubt a leak will happen because of the build up pressure created from the pump(s).  A leak will happen because of user error or faulty parts.  If you're always replacing parts, benchmarking and or just always upgrading, that's where QDCs come in handy.  I rarely advise folks for dual loops.  No point what so ever and the added cost isn't worth it let alone the reasons for it.

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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/31 17:14:37 (permalink)
    I didn't see anyone mention this, and if they did sorry for not reading more carefully, but http://www.performance-pcs.com/  have a good selection and better prices than frozencpu.com Also, Sidwinderpc has good prices on a lot of stuff, but not nearly as wide a variety of stuff to sell as frozencpu or performance pcs.
    Here's the next case I want to get, but I also have a 420 rad I'm not willing to part with :)
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    This one looks interesting too, but I'd like to take a look at it in person.
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    Re: Where to buy water cooling accessories 2014/10/31 20:42:08 (permalink)
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    I didn't see anyone mention this, and if they did sorry for not reading more carefully, but http://www.performance-pcs.com/  have a good selection and better prices than frozencpu.com Also, Sidwinderpc has good prices on a lot of stuff, but not nearly as wide a variety of stuff to sell as frozencpu or performance pcs.
    Here's the next case I want to get, but I also have a 420 rad I'm not willing to part with :)
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKSGBNS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=NFZ9NL99ZDN9&coliid=IVANLHDZC38H3
     
    This one looks interesting too, but I'd like to take a look at it in person.
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    I've bought majority of my stuff from frozencpu and some from PCS.  Actually I just recently bought some stuff from PCS.  Sidewinder I think I've only bought a fan from them. lol  Frozencpu is my priority and almost tied is PCS.  Those are the only two places I'd grab my stuff from but Frozencpu has e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. lol 
     
    The Enthoo primo case is a beast.  I know a few guys that did some build logs and one is finishing up one as we speak.  Its a big case.  I was very close in purchasing it but one thing I didn't like about it was the not so open design.  It reminds me a bit of the older style cases a bit but it still can handle a massive custom cooling system.  I ended up going with the slightly bigger case, Corsair 900D while being massive and heavy once everything is tucked in it, that had a more open floor design that made installations much easier.  If money wasn't an issue I would have went with a $1000+ Caselabs. lol  Regardless, I personally believe the best cases if not for the custom premium caselabs or mountainmods is a Corsair 900D or a Enthoo Primo in todays market for high end big massive cases.
     
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