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2014/11/16 18:42:38 (permalink)
For Crunching or Folding on Titans, I noted a new setting in under the NVIDIA Control Panel Manage 3D Settings.
When would we want to use this setting? The Default is None.
 



 
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    Re: When to Use Double Precision under NVIDIA Control Panel Manage 3D Settings 2014/11/16 19:51:15 (permalink)
    PrimeGrid's GFN work units and Milkyway's work units for GPU's would require double precision. However, I don't have any Titan's and therefore don't know if you really have to toggle it or not.

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    Re: When to Use Double Precision under NVIDIA Control Panel Manage 3D Settings 2014/11/16 20:15:02 (permalink)
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    PrimeGrid's GFN work units and Milkyway's work units for GPU's would require double precision. However, I don't have any Titan's and therefore don't know if you really have to toggle it or not.


    Thanks,
    I run both now but gave never added more with this toggle.
    For Milkyway I really would not see any real change but maybe for GFN I would.
    I will have to test this then:
     
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    Re: When to Use Double Precision under NVIDIA Control Panel Manage 3D Settings 2014/11/16 20:34:52 (permalink)
    Some More Info:
     
     
    I see no real CPU Usage.

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    Re: When to Use Double Precision under NVIDIA Control Panel Manage 3D Settings 2014/11/19 16:15:27 (permalink)
    I recall a post from a user on Milkyway@Home who tested the Titan with double precision mode enabled. He or she had to run multiple tasks at a time with an app_info.xml to see closer to full benefit of what the Titan could do. For some reason, running a single task did not scale well like it does with the AMD 7970.

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    Re: When to Use Double Precision under NVIDIA Control Panel Manage 3D Settings 2014/11/19 16:23:40 (permalink)
    I have to LONG running tasks running but they only run 10 to 12 hours a day.

    I might be able to add Milkyway@Home to my 3rd card and split it in to 3 Tasks at once.
     
    Will Post what I see.
    I will say I remember that before it would take 11-12 minutes to complete and now they start at less the 7 minutes.
    First Run Completed in 6.02 minutes. But also I have no real use of my computer when running all three cards.

     
    I to might be that I am using Driver 344.75 now.
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    Re: When to Use Double Precision under NVIDIA Control Panel Manage 3D Settings 2014/11/19 17:17:03 (permalink)
    First Run Completed in 3.07 minutes.
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    Re: When to Use Double Precision under NVIDIA Control Panel Manage 3D Settings 2016/08/18 10:06:48 (permalink)
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    I recall a post from a user on Milkyway@Home who tested the Titan with double precision mode enabled. He or she had to run multiple tasks at a time with an app_info.xml to see closer to full benefit of what the Titan could do. For some reason, running a single task did not scale well like it does with the AMD 7970.


    Testing this now under Seti
    Has any one tested their Titan's that have double precision on Seti GPU Tasks?

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    Re: When to Use Double Precision under NVIDIA Control Panel Manage 3D Settings 2016/08/18 10:13:24 (permalink)
    Found this as well today:
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9059/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-review/18
    Finally on a lighter note, with the launch of the GTX Titan X we wave good-bye to GTX Titan as an entry-level double precision compute card. NVIDIA dumping high-performance FP64 compute has made GTX Titan X a better graphics card and even a better FP32 compute card, but it means that the original GTX Titan's time as NVIDIA's first prosumer card was short-lived. I suspect that we haven't seen the end of NVIDIA's forays into entry-level FP64 compute cards like the original GTX Titan, but that next card will not be GTX Titan X.
    https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/213041-why-does-my-gtx-titan-black-gpu-underperform-in-double-precision-calculations-in-matlab-r2015a#answer_176280
    http://forums.evga.com/When-to-Use-Double-Precision-under-NVIDIA-Control-Panel-Manage-3D-Settings-m2252867.aspx
    In general, double precision can often be much slower across GPUs as some of them are optimized by design for single precision computation only and not scientific calculations involving double precision numbers.
    As we are unable to provide recommendation for GPU hardware, please contact NVIDIA directly for further information on this disparity in performance.
    https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76938&postid=1654672#1654672
     

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