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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/15 18:39:43
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/19 23:52:26
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Do you think 2x RS240 rads is better than 1 RX360?
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/19 23:59:07
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Just figured I would add something here. This is something that no water cooler should be without: Plugs right into the wall and has a molex end to plug into your pump. Best 15 bucks spent in years:) http://www.amazon.com/Coo...-Adapter/dp/B000MGG6SC 
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/20 10:50:52
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Do you think 2x RS240 rads is better than 1 RX360?
you will have more surface area than a 360 but you will need high speed fans for them
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/20 10:51:56
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Johnny_Utah
Just figured I would add something here. This is something that no water cooler should be without:
Plugs right into the wall and has a molex end to plug into your pump. Best 15 bucks spent in years:)
http://www.amazon.com/Coo...-Adapter/dp/B000MGG6SC
Yep I have this to as well. Though I have my pumps hooked to a terminal block
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/23 07:33:46
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This thread got a little off track so those off subject posts have been deleted. Please remember that this thread started out as a help guide. Argumentative comments off topic will be deleted.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/27 18:26:56
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Looking for some help in regards to rad size. Picked up a full motherboard block for my 4way board and also plan on running my cpu under the same loop. Will a 360 be enough or should I cram a 480 up top?
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/27 18:29:28
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bluvert89
Looking for some help in regards to rad size. Picked up a full motherboard block for my 4way board and also plan on running my cpu under the same loop. Will a 360 be enough or should I cram a 480 up top?
What all are you going to cool exactly? If it is just he CPU and Mobo then a 360 is way plenty.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/27 18:34:59
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Yup, just the board and cpu.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/29 07:07:38
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Yeah, a 360 should be just fine.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/29 07:35:44
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/29 07:50:34
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Personally, I would go with the XSPC Dual Bay res with the 655 internal. I am doing some revamping on my loop, and I am going to that setup.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/29 08:46:15
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I looked at the XSPC combos....just wanted to go with something a little different.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/29 11:03:12
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Look for one that will hold either a D5 or a DDC type pump and you should be good. I recommend the D5, as I have used them in MANY systems, and have always had GREAT success.
Basically, get the pump you want, then find a res that accomodates it, NOT the other way around.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/29 16:35:30
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Thinking I will go with the Koolance RP-452X2 res. Just cant really decide on the pump though. Either the Koolance PMP-450 or the Swiftech MPC655.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/29 19:35:50
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I also like that koolance res too. But someone recommend that i will only need one pump for my loop. But the dual pump option is still a possibility. I was looking at the xspc res were you can install the MCP655 pump. Am planning a dual rad setup with a 360 on top and 240 on the bottom of my 800D. Just cooling the cpu and my 580's
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/29 22:23:14
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bluvert89
Thinking I will go with the Koolance RP-452X2 res. Just cant really decide on the pump though. Either the Koolance PMP-450 or the Swiftech MPC655.
basically they are the same pump
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/30 04:24:34
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hatchetrunner
bluvert89
Thinking I will go with the Koolance RP-452X2 res. Just cant really decide on the pump though. Either the Koolance PMP-450 or the Swiftech MPC655.
basically they are the same pump
Ahh, well that should make my decision a little easier;) You wouldn't want to get rid of that EK 4way block would you? 
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/30 20:44:42
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bluvert89
Thinking I will go with the Koolance RP-452X2 res. Just cant really decide on the pump though. Either the Koolance PMP-450 or the Swiftech MPC655.
basically they are the same pump
Ahh, well that should make my decision a little easier;) You wouldn't want to get rid of that EK 4way block would you?
Nope I dont plan to sell it. I plan to sell it with my mb
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/04/30 23:35:08
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cool thread!  me likey the tremendous amount of information in here  very useful! maybe you don't know that, but I am a total noob in watercooling, learning it as I go, researched what I could, but ultimately my wallet has the last word on purchse LOL! I have just ordered my first WC kit (XSPC 750 w/RX240) as I was lost in options and all tiny thing when trying to figure out my own custom loop. I understand that pump used in this kit is crap, but I hope to upgrade it later down the road to maybe Swiftech MCP355 (don't ask me about pump tops, I have no idea what's what). I liked the thicker RX240 rad in that kit, more that I plan to use with AP-15 fans eventually, for now the stock ones will have to do. I plan on cooling the CPU (2600K) only for now, but eventually I may consider adding more components to the loop. the question is what performance I should expect from an RX240 rad and what I could count in for future loop expansion? 2x 570 too much for it (would need another 240 rad?)? or rather forget about gpus and do the Z77 chipset and PLX (once I get that board that is, for now rocking a Z68)? EDIT: posted a new thread on my WC setup idea, please chime in if you like: http://forums.evga.com...;mpage=1#1574699 lastly, I have doubts about placement of the rad in my old Thermaltake Armor VA8000 (full tower) case ... inside in place of 2x 120mm intakes (third intake would be swapped with a dual slot res) and push-AND-pull setup (so it also serves somewhat as intake)? or keep the 3x120m intakes where they are and place the rad outside/rear with just pull setup? ... decisions, decisions ... any help appreciated! thanks!
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/01 12:32:30
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Awesome guide! I just purchased parts for a water loop for my GPU (2600k). Trying to start small until I get the hang of it. Once I'm more comfortable with the water cooling process (and the wallet/wife allows it) I'll add my GPU's. I got the following:
- Res: Koolance RP-452X2
- Pump: Koolance PMP-450 (just one for now)
- Rad: Black Ice Xtreme 3 X-Flow
- Cooler Master High Performance SickleFlow 120 Fans
- Lamptron FC-3-A Fan Controller (30W/channel)
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/01 14:28:19
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@boballee
I wouldnt recommend using those fans on that setup. Those fans, from what I read are part of the R4 series, which while well made have VERY low static pressure. They are ideal for case ventilation, but not for radiators. Escpeically not for the thicker BI series radiators, those are high fin count and thus require more pressure, they will cool better, but it requires more pressure to do the same job.
I would go with nothing less than a YateLoon fan setup (cheaper too), but there are some really nice Panaflo's with good pressure that don't sound like WWII aircraft. But those fans will limit you, otherwise, it should do well.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/01 17:29:34
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@boballee
I wouldnt recommend using those fans on that setup. Those fans, from what I read are part of the R4 series, which while well made have VERY low static pressure. They are ideal for case ventilation, but not for radiators. Escpeically not for the thicker BI series radiators, those are high fin count and thus require more pressure, they will cool better, but it requires more pressure to do the same job.
I would go with nothing less than a YateLoon fan setup (cheaper too), but there are some really nice Panaflo's with good pressure that don't sound like WWII aircraft. But those fans will limit you, otherwise, it should do well.
Thanks for the feedback. I was actually looking at the Yate Loon's - guess I took the wrong side of the 50/50 decision!  Thank goodness for these forums. Appreciate the help and advice.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/01 18:25:34
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Ok - so a question. Been going back looking at some other fans. I keep reading that people say "...these fans have great static pressure..." but I don't have any values to compare. What is a good static pressure for the Black Ice Xtreme 3 X-Flow rad? The Cooler Master SickleFlow's have a 2.94 mmH20 (28.8 Pa) static pressure rating. About the only other fans that I've seen with listed static pressure are Delta's ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213001) with a max 27.48 mmH20.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/01 18:30:22
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if I am not wrong, for thick high density rad you are looking for a "lower rpm" durable fans with high static pressure. I believe the best optimal choice (if wallet is not an issue) would be getting 6 (for 360 rad push & pull setup) units of Scythe gentle Typhoon AP-15 @ 1850rpm, people seem to love them for rads.
the thin low density rads are said to be best efficient with high rpms fans, up to 3000rpm ultra kaze or deltas ... I'd honestly hate the noise ... thank god I went with RX rad (thick 240)...
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/01 20:00:59
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Thanks. I'll look in to the Gentle Typhoons. I have heard quite a few folks rave about them. So, next question. I have a Corsair 700D. I plan on mounting the rad inside top. If I go with a push/pull set up, any thoughts on space limitations? I don't think there will be, especially if they are 25mm fans. But, before I drop money unnecessarily, I thought it would be good to ask the folks who have been doing this for awhile.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/02 00:39:03
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boballee
Thanks. I'll look in to the Gentle Typhoons. I have heard quite a few folks rave about them. So, next question. I have a Corsair 700D. I plan on mounting the rad inside top. If I go with a push/pull set up, any thoughts on space limitations? I don't think there will be, especially if they are 25mm fans. But, before I drop money unnecessarily, I thought it would be good to ask the folks who have been doing this for awhile.
if you are getting a rx series rad there is no need to do a push pull config. Just one or the other will be fine. you should be able to put a 360 rad inside the case with fans with no problem.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/02 05:30:36
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boballee
Thanks. I'll look in to the Gentle Typhoons. I have heard quite a few folks rave about them. So, next question. I have a Corsair 700D. I plan on mounting the rad inside top. If I go with a push/pull set up, any thoughts on space limitations? I don't think there will be, especially if they are 25mm fans. But, before I drop money unnecessarily, I thought it would be good to ask the folks who have been doing this for awhile.
if you are getting a rx series rad there is no need to do a push pull config. Just one or the other will be fine. you should be able to put a 360 rad inside the case with fans with no problem.
Thanks, Hatchetrunner. I didn't think I'd have much of an issue with the case. So, are some fans better with a push set up and other with a pull - or doesn't it matter?
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/02 06:34:25
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Thanks, Hatchetrunner. I didn't think I'd have much of an issue with the case. So, are some fans better with a push set up and other with a pull - or doesn't it matter?
Its up to you really. I have my fans doing a push on my builds.
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Re:Water cooling guide for noobs
2012/05/02 08:20:12
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Typically pull does a little better than push, but it is not a huge difference. The difference increase on REALLY weak fans, specifically fans with very little static pressure, but thopse shouldn't touch a radiator anyway.
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