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2015/03/06 06:51:32 (permalink)
How come EvGA and Nvidia Both Claimed that the 4 Cards I Purchased would have DX12 . Why DO I not Have DX12 like the 900s When It Clearly States DX12 Pre Purchase. I want it Full Support For My 780 6GB That Claimed TO be A DX12 card HMMMMM. That is the reason I got it.I Still Have All THe Printouts and original statements from this site . Im Just Asking Why?
 
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http://www.3dmark.com/aot/21741 It looks as if I do have DX12 support fully as of today with 760s. this is good news. So I may have pulled a trigger too soon. I am very glad I was wrong to worry.....
 
update. pending for mixing up brands XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB DDR5 and NVidia . I don't use amd that often so reseach test the results soon....... nope changed my mind I will not tarnish my awesome cards like that.
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/06 07:06:42 (permalink)
    The first thing that has to happen is for DX12 to even get released.  MS is working on that with Win10 at the moment.  The next thing is for developers to begin using it in new game development.
     
    It will probably be awhile before we see anything actually using DX12.  Possibly later this year.  We'll have to wait and see.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 09:27:14 (permalink)
    It will be a Windows 10 exclusive as well, so you can't be on Windows 7 or 8.
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 10:08:06 (permalink)
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    It will be a Windows 10 exclusive as well, so you can't be on Windows 7 or 8.


    That is false according to this  >>  http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2014/9-004
     


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 11:38:06 (permalink)
    A quick Google search turns up pages of that not being the case. But it may turn out to be false - guess we'll know when it's released.
     
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    It will be a Windows 10 exclusive as well, so you can't be on Windows 7 or 8.


    That is false according to this  >>  http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2014/9-004
     




     
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 11:43:05 (permalink)
    So, speculation may turn out to be speculations and not fact.... lol. We'll see at a later date as to what dx12 will support over all. At this point, it's just speculation and hoping for things to work out.
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 12:24:28 (permalink)
    Considering Microsoft's attempts to push people away from Win7, it wouldn't suprise me if it becomes a Win10 exclusive.  Listening to the guy from the video linked above, it sounds like DX12 is designed to and could be offered on Win7 or later if they would choose to do so.
     
    Not offering it on Win7 would be a good way for MS to force "some" users to Win10.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 12:33:47 (permalink)
    Right now only Windows 10 has the DirectX 12 API and unless Microsoft changes its mind then that might be the only MS operating system to which DirectX 12 is ported.

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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 12:38:07 (permalink)
    This article deals with NVIDIA hardware support and DX 12:
     
    http://blogs.nvidia.com/b...indows-10-nvidia-dx12/

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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 17:49:00 (permalink)
    When DX12 show up you will have 20fps in new games on GTX780.
    I don't even think about series 700 and DX12 compatibility. 

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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 19:48:09 (permalink)
    Yes I Thank you .I know I use Windows 10. version undisclosed. It makes a hugh difference. Its is released long time that twelvey thingy. Wait kinda over long time ago. 11.2dx is out come for 700s .......900s . twelvey thingy  ort somthingy um W/e  I did not ask becuase of a guess.  I am just dis apointed at the dishonesty . Its not EVGAs fualt they did there read repeat print. It would be Nvidia responsibility. I Figured I would get a more honest reply here.
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 19:59:16 (permalink)
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    When DX12 show up you will have 20fps in new games on GTX780.
    I don't even think about series 700 and DX12 compatibility. 


    well it was coordinated  like the new cpus and ddr4s and mobos and video card releases. and benchmark updates. for max intake. and insured consumedge
    by having the 700s doesnt mean i dont want it. 20 frames is a guess I never take word or trust me I know . I like to see for my self works for me. I find that official data is never pernament out come.
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/07 23:31:29 (permalink)
    Did the ops ? get answered? I read the article and listened to the video, and most of the above comments seemed aimed at the OS as opposed to GPU support. So ill ask,will direct x12,be it on win 7-8.1-10-whatever , have support for 7xx series GPUs?
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/08 08:12:40 (permalink)
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    Did the ops ? get answered? I read the article and listened to the video, and most of the above comments seemed aimed at the OS as opposed to GPU support. So ill ask,will direct x12,be it on win 7-8.1-10-whatever , have support for 7xx series GPUs?


    The only thing I've ever seen so far regarding hardware (GPU) support is that everything from 400 series on up will support it.  Might still be a "wait & see" thing yet at this point...


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/08 08:14:45 (permalink)
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    Did the ops ? get answered? I read the article and listened to the video, and most of the above comments seemed aimed at the OS as opposed to GPU support. So ill ask,will direct x12,be it on win 7-8.1-10-whatever , have support for 7xx series GPUs?


    The only thing I've ever seen so far regarding hardware (GPU) support is that everything from 400 series on up will support it.  Might still be a "wait & see" thing yet at this point...


    There is a difference between partial and full DX 12 support. I hope more info will be forthcoming in the months to come.

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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/08 10:50:01 (permalink)
    You do not get DX12 until windows 10 is released, and even other past generation cards get DX12 features when it happens.

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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/09 13:11:36 (permalink)
    I'm glad I still have some time to see how this plays out. I'm due for a rebuild and I'm waiting to see how well received Windows 10 is. I recently upgraded to the 780 Ti to replace my 570 because the 970's were hard to come by. I also picked the 780 Ti up at a great price, $320.00, just to hold me over to the next generation of GPU's. (22nm, 20nm, 18nm, ???) My 780 Ti outperforms my friends newer 970 in most applications, so we just need to wait and see.
     
    It's going to be awhile before any new titles that fully support DX12 become available. Just sit tight and enjoy what you already have...times are a changin.
     
     

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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/09 13:17:19 (permalink)
    My only intrest in DX12 is that I heard it will allow GPUs in sli to utilize all the VRAM, 2 780tis will have 6 gbs of available mem, can anyone confirm if this is so?
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    Did the ops ? get answered? I read the article and listened to the video, and most of the above comments seemed aimed at the OS as opposed to GPU support. So ill ask,will direct x12,be it on win 7-8.1-10-whatever , have support for 7xx series GPUs?


    The only thing I've ever seen so far regarding hardware (GPU) support is that everything from 400 series on up will support it.  Might still be a "wait & see" thing yet at this point...


    There is a difference between partial and full DX 12 support. I hope more info will be forthcoming in the months to come.


    Do u know if the feature allowing the use of all VRAM in sli would be considered "partial" or "full" DX12 support?
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/17 00:32:22 (permalink)
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    Did the ops ? get answered? I read the article and listened to the video, and most of the above comments seemed aimed at the OS as opposed to GPU support. So ill ask,will direct x12,be it on win 7-8.1-10-whatever , have support for 7xx series GPUs?


    Yes that is what I want to know exactly also. This is important to me. 700s series is fantastic And I plan on using and buying them for a while longer. I just got another 760 so i can three way SLI Surround on 3 HDs. DX12 full support for 700s is the question. Dosent matter what windows who cares about that. I will use what ever window needed.
     
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/03/19 16:29:57 (permalink)
    To answer you, yes it will just fine....
    I have a 750Ti ACX, and am currently running win 10, with dx12. It works fine, haven't tested any dx12 games yet but Grid Autosport runs awesome on ultra.... Notice I'm on a driver that isn't even out yet 349.90....
     
     
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/05 04:12:01 (permalink)
    Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Technical Preview, 64-bit
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    Driver version:  349.90
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    its out now what?
     


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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/05 09:59:48 (permalink)
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    Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Technical Preview, 64-bit
    DirectX version: 12.0
    GPU processor:  GeForce GTX 780
    Driver version:  349.90
    Direct3D API version: 12
    Direct3D feature level: 11_0
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    Memory interface: 384-bit
    Memory bandwidth: 312.00 GB/s
    Total available graphics memory: 22510 MB
    Dedicated video memory: 6144 MB GDDR5
     
     
    its out now what?
     


    I'm not sure what he's going on about. 349.90 was released on Windows update for Windows 10 on the 19th of March. I guess you wait for something besides a Benchmark that uses DX 12.
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/05 11:01:13 (permalink)
    windows 10 tp 10049 and NVidia driver 349.90=Dx12 support, albeit limited. new 3dmark13 comes with dx12 feature test.

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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/06 07:01:40 (permalink)
    I get irritated at a few things . but latest is 349.90 with no triple SLI support , Runs the supposed DX12 in 3dmark under features. says it will only run on win 10 but I see this in return .look at the version and the corner right. miss info but is it. .whatever. I didn't even ever have 8.1 0n this drive. 
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/06 07:07:04 (permalink)
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    Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Technical Preview, 64-bit
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    Driver version:  349.90
    Direct3D API version: 12
    Direct3D feature level: 11_0
    CUDA Cores:  2304
    Core clock:  967 MHz
    Memory data rate: 6500 MHz
    Memory interface: 384-bit
    Memory bandwidth: 312.00 GB/s
    Total available graphics memory: 22510 MB
    Dedicated video memory: 6144 MB GDDR5
     
     
    its out now what?
     


    I'm not sure what he's going on about. 349.90 was released on Windows update for Windows 10 on the 19th of March. I guess you wait for something besides a Benchmark that uses DX 12.


    I know huh. well reason is that it would not update to this version it refused I guess a bug but then just the other day it was updated and went smooth. Maybe behind but not uninformed.


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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/10 22:17:45 (permalink)
    The trick, to get the latest, is join the fast ring. I'm already on the next build, that enables Spartan, got it over a week ago...
     

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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/10 22:32:23 (permalink)
    Hotrod u have a 750ti my concern was will the direct x12 combine the vram on the 7xx series cards in sli?
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/11 00:17:07 (permalink)
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    Hotrod u have a 750ti my concern was will the direct x12 combine the vram on the 7xx series cards in sli?


    I stand corrected, I guess it will....
    post edited by HotRodPolk - 2015/04/11 00:34:49

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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/11 00:23:28 (permalink)
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    Hotrod u have a 750ti my concern was will the direct x12 combine the vram on the 7xx series cards in sli?




    Just tested two 3GB 780ti cards in SLI under Win10 10049 with driver 349.90 and DX12 shows 6144MB of dedicated VRAM. So yes, DX12 will stack the VRAM on 700-series cards.
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    Re: Very good question about DX12 was for 700s I got where is it? 2015/04/11 00:35:53 (permalink)
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    Hotrod u have a 750ti my concern was will the direct x12 combine the vram on the 7xx series cards in sli?




    Just tested two 3GB 780ti cards in SLI under Win10 10049 with driver 349.90 and DX12 shows 6144MB of dedicated VRAM. So yes, DX12 will stack the VRAM on 700-series cards.


    Nice!

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