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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/03/31 06:26:52
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How do we reset the vmware clock to show the right time?
Since we put the clocks forward last sunday, my vmware time has remained an hour behind and I've had slightly less points for the 2 WUs completed, so I guess that hours is transferring to stanford as an incorrect time too.
It's running the hwclock script (assuming that's to do with the clock), but it isn't changing anything.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/03/31 07:59:18
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I can't tell you how to fix the clock, but I can assure you that Stanford relies on their own server's clocks for determining up/download and bonuses, so it's not affecting your points. Otherwise people would just set their clocks back before returning work to look like it completed in 1 hour instead of 48.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/03/31 13:55:32
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Shutdown the VM, add the following line to your vmx file, and start it back up. This will set the VM clock to UTC time. rtc.diffFromUTC = 0 There is an ntpd script in LR's image, although I don't know the command to use it. There is an option in the web config to use ntpd.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/03/31 14:33:01
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slugbug I don't want to lose another WU due to Windows update restarts etc.
You might want to turn off automatic updates. 
Yeah they are off. I guess I've been so used to running notfreds and never losing a WU that I wasn't aware you could lose a -bigadv WU just by rebooting.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/03/31 14:44:45
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slugbug Yeah they are off. I guess I've been so used to running notfreds and never losing a WU that I wasn't aware you could lose a -bigadv WU just by rebooting. Okay. It's best then to just do a "shutdown -h now" before rebooting. That way your work gets backed up without much of a data loss.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/03/31 15:32:40
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In the Linux system, there is a command you can run called timeconfig to set the timezone that you want. The default is UTC. You can start NTP in the command line with this or you can enable it via the web:
chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/03/31 15:37:12
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Yeah they are off. I guess I've been so used to running notfreds and never losing a WU that I wasn't aware you could lose a -bigadv WU just by rebooting.
Bigadv is much more sensitive to failure from reboots and system shutdown compared to the smaller work units that Notfred runs. I have lost my share of bigadv work units in a native Linux environment from doing reboots and so forth. Regarding your other question with performance difference between native and virtualized environments, I have seen around a 3-5% improvement in a native environment. I get around 27:30-28:00 TPF with a 920 @ 4.2 GHz in native Linux.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/03/31 19:04:36
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I reboot all the time and loosing work units isn't a problem for me. Normally it's so that I can do a Windows update, maybe tweak my overclock, or play BC2. These are the steps I follow using the stuff from this thread: http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=130442 1) I look at the time in the VM and round that number up to the next hour (so if it's 5:30 I round to 6, if it's 23:23 I round up to 0 (new day)) 2) I make a backup manually running the command " ./hour_backup <x> " where x is the hour that I want to backup manually 3) I shutdown or reboot the client 4) I restore the work from the network backup 5) I start folding again I fold using a ramdisk so steps like these are a must otherwise my disk contents would be gone every time I power cycle / shut off the VM. I don't like the idea of the VM automatically backing up my work and restoring it for me when the VM comes back up since if something goes wrong then you have no way to get back. Sure it's convenient but if something goes wrong I consider that the risk you take and you shouldn't complain after the fact....
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/04/05 05:55:23
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Hey LR-Stanford's server issues are one thing (I cannot upload a finished WU) but is there someway that I can salvage/save the completed one without having to run a new image? Right now I cannot upload and download at the same time, last time I fixed this was to run a completely new image and lose the WU/points in the process. I'm open to any suggestions/advices in order to get this thing fixed and thanks for the help. Here's a screenie of what I'm talking about:  And how do pull the logs when HFM.net is not playing nice?
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/04/05 16:49:00
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Do you have Langouste enabled?
If not, this issue could either be a network access issue via the virtual or host system or a server issue with Stanford. You can try and ping google.com to see if the virtual machine can access the Internet.
ALT+F2
ping -c 4 google.com
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/04/05 20:35:29
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Do you have Langouste enabled?
If not, this issue could either be a network access issue via the virtual or host system or a server issue with Stanford. You can try and ping google.com to see if the virtual machine can access the Internet.
ALT+F2
ping -c 4 google.com
ALT+F1
Langouste is enabled and succesfully pinged Google with no loss of data. So Stanford's is the culprit! Is there a way to change or select which server you connect to and from?
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing)
2010/04/06 13:21:53
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Langouste is enabled and succesfully pinged Google with no loss of data. So Stanford's is the culprit! Is there a way to change or select which server you connect to and from?
With Langouste enabled, the "could not transmit" errors are normal. This is because Langouste makes a copy of the client directory to /tmp/langouste and then fires off a second folding client to send the work unit. This makes it possible to have the main client download a new one where the second one uploads the old one. If you check /tmp/langouste, you will see a folding log there and one of those files should tell you that the work unit transmitted.
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/06 22:03:16
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Not exactly sure what I am doing wrong here. I have been running image 1.2 for about a week. Trying to run the initial 10 wu. However I cannot seem to get any 1920 units. I keep getting A1 Cores, which are only spanning 4 cores. I have it set to 8 cores. I have tried the web interface as well as command line. I'm using ./fah6 -smp 8 but still keep getting A1 cores running 4 threads. Help please? :)
Oh, I have a Core I7 920 6gb ram.
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/07 05:39:49
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I'm not sure what the defaults are with the web interface, but you need -advmethods or -bigadv set to get SMP work that uses more than 4 cores.
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/07 05:43:12
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Not exactly sure what I am doing wrong here. I have been running image 1.2 for about a week. Trying to run the initial 10 wu. However I cannot seem to get any 1920 units. I keep getting A1 Cores, which are only spanning 4 cores. I have it set to 8 cores. I have tried the web interface as well as command line. I'm using ./fah6 -smp 8 but still keep getting A1 cores running 4 threads. Help please? :)
Oh, I have a Core I7 920 6gb ram.
Thanks,
what version of VM player are u running? 3.0.0 or 3.0.1? did it say client v6.29 on log file? and also make sure you use either -advmethods or -bigadv flag WB
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/07 15:42:02
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I am using VM Player 3.0.0
Using -advmethods occasionally but very rarely gives me anything other then core a1's. If I do use -bigadv it does get the correct wu's.
Now maybe I'm a bit confused, b/c throughout this thread it states that you must complete 10 normal WU's (./fah6 -smp 8) before starting -bigadv, and other places state that a1 cores don't count towards the 10. So should I be running ./fah6 -smp 8 or ./fah6 -bigadv -smp 8 to complete the first 10 wu?
Sorry if I sound like a tard, but yeah, just confused. Thanks!
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/07 19:05:39
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Best to run ./fah6 -advmethods -smp 8 to complete the 10 wu (quicker that way) then switch to ./fah6 -bigadv -smp 8.
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/07 19:06:47
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I am using VM Player 3.0.0
Using -advmethods occasionally but very rarely gives me anything other then core a1's. If I do use -bigadv it does get the correct wu's.
Now maybe I'm a bit confused, b/c throughout this thread it states that you must complete 10 normal WU's (./fah6 -smp 8) before starting -bigadv, and other places state that a1 cores don't count towards the 10. So should I be running ./fah6 -smp 8 or ./fah6 -bigadv -smp 8 to complete the first 10 wu?
Sorry if I sound like a tard, but yeah, just confused. Thanks!
There could be a shortage of SMP2 work units. One of my systems is running an a1 currently and also got an a1 yesterday. You basically want to have -advmethods enabled to be able to get SMP2 work. If you are using the web interface, there is a checkbox for it. If you are starting the client by console, then you can either enable advmethods via the initial configuration or add it as a command line flag. ./fah6 -advmethods -smp 8 You can also run 10 bigadv work units to qualify but that takes longer to do. Unfortunately there are no longer any 1920-pt Core A2 work units that also qualify for bonus point requirements. These work units used to almost always be available.
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/08 00:53:07
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Geat, that explains it, thanks you very much! 
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/08 12:17:39
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Hi all, sorry if this has been asked before but can someone email me v 3.0, I have v3.0.1 and can't locate 3.0 anywhere yet, thanks a bunch. Edit: nmd, I scrolled down and found it, shessh I've been gone too long 
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/08 13:12:36
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Well, went thru the guide, got it set up but I fear something isn't quite right. It just sits and goes nowhere...also how do you set it up with FAHMon or FAHSpy, thanks again. 
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/08 18:48:13
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The folding log looks good. It can take from 30-45 minutes to move up a percent due to the large size of these work units. I saw you already setup FahMon in your other thread. You may also want to look into HFM.net since it calculates the bonus points.
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/09 03:48:00
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Hi guys, First thanks linuxrouter for a great package for folding -bigadv on VMware. I've tried both your latest version and the frednotfred version and they are both very polished products. However I'm having a wierd problem with my rig and it happens on both images, in that I don't seem to be able to get Vmware to punch the CPU up high enough to get decent TPF. Background: Rig is: i7 920 @ 3.9 Ghz 6GB OCZ DDR3 Windows Vista 64 Vmware Player 3.0.0 build-203739 I've tried your image to complete a WU and then tried the frednotfred image to complete a WU and both have the same problem. CPU usage seems to hover around 75% and TPF is 45-46 minutes giving me only 15K PPD and completion times of around 3 days :( which wouldn't be so bad but thats the same performance I get out of an A3 unit running the Windows client  Here are some screenshots:    
--- Opening Log file [April 8 09:06:37 UTC]
# Linux SMP Console Edition ###################################################
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Folding@Home Client Version 6.29
http://folding.stanford.edu
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Launch directory: /hda/folding/1
Executable: /etc/folding/fah6
Arguments: -local -smp 8 -bigadv -verbosity 9
[09:06:37] - Ask before connecting: No
[09:06:37] - User name: Biffa (Team 10)
[09:06:37] - User ID: 6E7096F9199A3B04
[09:06:37] - Machine ID: 1
[09:06:37]
[09:06:38] Loaded queue successfully.
[09:06:38] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[09:06:38] Cleaning up work directory
[09:06:38] - Autosending finished units... [April 8 09:06:38 UTC]
[09:06:38] Trying to send all finished work units
[09:06:38] + No unsent completed units remaining.
[09:06:38] - Autosend completed
[09:06:38] + Attempting to get work packet
[09:06:38] Passkey found
[09:06:38] - Will indicate memory of 5053 MB
[09:06:38] - Connecting to assignment server
[09:06:38] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
[09:06:39] Posted data.
[09:06:39] Initial: 43AB; - Successful: assigned to (171.67.108.22).
[09:06:39] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[09:06:39] Loaded queue successfully.
[09:06:39] Connecting to http://171.67.108.22:8080/
[09:07:16] Posted data.
[09:07:17] Initial: 0000; - Receiving payload (expected size: 30331658)
[09:08:59] - Downloaded at ~290 kB/s
[09:08:59] - Averaged speed for that direction ~286 kB/s
[09:08:59] + Received work.
[09:09:00] + Closed connections
[09:09:00]
[09:09:00] + Processing work unit
[09:09:00] Core required: FahCore_a2.exe
[09:09:00] Core found.
[09:09:00] Working on queue slot 01 [April 8 09:09:00 UTC]
[09:09:00] + Working ...
[09:09:00] - Calling './mpiexec -np 8 -host 127.0.0.1 ./FahCore_a2.exe -dir work/ -nice 19 -suffix 01 -checkpoint 15 -verbose -lifeline 1196 -version 629'
[09:09:01]
[09:09:01] *------------------------------*
[09:09:01] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[09:09:01] Version 2.10 (Sun Aug 30 03:43:28 CEST 2009)
[09:09:02]
[09:09:02] Preparing to commence simulation
[09:09:02] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[09:09:11] - Looking at optimizations...
[09:09:11] - Working with standard loops on this execution.
[09:09:11] - Files status OK
[09:09:41] - Expanded 30331146 -> 159726549 (decompressed 101.8 percent)
[09:09:51] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=30331146 data_size=159726549, decompressed_data_size=159726549 diff=0
[09:09:52] - Digital signature verified
[09:09:52]
[09:09:52] Project: 2681 (Run 5, Clone 18, Gen 83)
[09:09:52]
[09:09:53] Entering M.D.
[09:10:47] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
[09:57:14] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[10:43:22] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[11:29:14] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[12:14:53] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)
[13:00:44] Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps (5%)
[13:46:41] Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps (6%)
[14:32:45] Completed 17500 out of 250000 steps (7%)
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/09 15:00:52
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The folding log looks good. It can take from 30-45 minutes to move up a percent due to the large size of these work units. I saw you already setup FahMon in your other thread. You may also want to look into HFM.net since it calculates the bonus points.
LR, just a quick update, I'm at 52% completion since starting yesterday around 3pm MST running -smp 8 -bigadv on my 980X clocked at a <cough> conservative 3.8 GHz <cough>  I'll eventually get up around 4.5 or so, just not concerned with "muscling" it right now.
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/09 15:44:48
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Hi guys,
First thanks linuxrouter for a great package for folding -bigadv on VMware. I've tried both your latest version and the frednotfred version and they are both very polished products.
However I'm having a wierd problem with my rig and it happens on both images, in that I don't seem to be able to get Vmware to punch the CPU up high enough to get decent TPF.
Background:
Rig is:
i7 920 @ 3.9 Ghz
6GB OCZ DDR3
Windows Vista 64
Vmware Player 3.0.0 build-203739
I've tried your image to complete a WU and then tried the frednotfred image to complete a WU and both have the same problem.
CPU usage seems to hover around 75% and TPF is 45-46 minutes giving me only 15K PPD and completion times of around 3 days :( which wouldn't be so bad but thats the same performance I get out of an A3 unit running the Windows client Can you run this command in the console of the virtual machine: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep proc This will list all the processors that Linux has detected. It should have detected 8 (0-7). Also, right-click on the vmware-vmx.exe process and select set affinity. Make sure all processors are set active. Do you have any other program running that sets affinity for a process?
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/09 15:48:12
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LR, just a quick update, I'm at 52% completion since starting yesterday around 3pm MST running -smp 8 -bigadv on my 980X clocked at a <cough> conservative 3.8 GHz <cough>
I'll eventually get up around 4.5 or so, just not concerned with "muscling" it right now.
Nice work. It looks like you are making good progress with the bigadv work unit since you are already at 52%.
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/09 16:52:22
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LR, just a quick update, I'm at 52% completion since starting yesterday around 3pm MST running -smp 8 -bigadv on my 980X clocked at a <cough> conservative 3.8 GHz <cough>
I'll eventually get up around 4.5 or so, just not concerned with "muscling" it right now.
Nice work. It looks like you are making good progress with the bigadv work unit since you are already at 52%.
Thanks. I should be done about 5pm Eastern tomorrow, where the deadline is listed as Monday at 5pm Eastern. BTW I appreciate the work you've done with the various guides here, sure has helped me get back into form among others here 
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/10 01:51:38
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Can you run this command in the console of the virtual machine:
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep proc
This will list all the processors that Linux has detected. It should have detected 8 (0-7). Also, right-click on the vmware-vmx.exe process and select set affinity. Make sure all processors are set active. Do you have any other program running that sets affinity for a process?
console command shows processor: 0 processor: 1 processor: 2 processor: 3 processor: 4 processor: 5 processor: 6 processor: 7 And checking affinity from task manager shows all Cpus ticked. Not using anything to manage affinity Priority is set to Low automatically, but Ive tried changing that to no avail. Thanks for the help.
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mikeric
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Re:VMware 3.0 && bigadv folding
2010/04/10 14:35:11
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Is there a way to set it so that when it finishes the current workunit it will not start another.?
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