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2016/06/24 19:29:52 (permalink)
Seems the new GPU has been considered by some PC gamers as "overkill" for said display settings because of wasted graphics processing power and screentearing. Regardless, I want to get a 1070 SC for my Acer S200HQL GBD monitor and my rig.  I don't have enough money for any 1440p/4k monitors right now because my money's saved up for a GPU. 
 
So, is there a way to accommodate the 1070 for the monitor I'm running?? So far, I've been told Fast Sync can reduce the tearing, but I have no idea if this is true or not. Any other tips?
 
Please help and thanks. 
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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/24 19:46:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Kaixa-san 2016/06/25 23:12:14
can't u just cap/limit the FPS in game?
 
that's what i do with my 1080 FE when i play Overwatch on my Dell U3415W @ 80hz. i just lock it at 80fps.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/24 19:55:59 (permalink)
I have a GTX 1080 on the way playing on a Dell U2415 monitor @1920x1200 and could careless what people think. I will certainly be moving to 1440p definitely in the near future. But, right now. Its not a high priority with that big gpu price purchase. 

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/24 21:02:11 (permalink)
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I have a GTX 1080 on the way playing on a Dell U2415 monitor @1920x1200 and could careless what people think. I will certainly be moving to 1440p definitely in the near future. But, right now. Its not a high priority with that big gpu price purchase. 


one should never care about what a random person online thinks.
 
if u can, save up for an ultrawide. i'm loving 3440x1440 resolution. too bad Overwatch doesn't support 21:9 ratio, but Rise of the Tomb Raider looks absolutely stunning on my Dell U3415W. my current 1080 FE is running it perfectly above 60fps and hovers around 69*c to 71*c during gaming. that's just with the factory clocks and a modified fan curve using Afterburner.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/24 21:13:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Kaixa-san 2016/06/24 23:17:38
Forget about what people say about this "overkill". Clearly they have no idea what the future will bring in a couple years. a GTX 970 will be crawling on its knees in a few years once game designers bring different, complex and advanced game engines to the table. A 970 will not hold up in a few years (could be even a year, we don't know). I don't care who says it; games will become far advanced and Maxwell will be a thing in the past. It's unfortunate, but the truth.
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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/24 21:55:36 (permalink)
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Forget about what people say about this "overkill". Clearly they have no idea what the future will bring in a couple years. a GTX 970 will be crawling on its knees in a few years once game designers bring different, complex and advanced game engines to the table. A 970 will not hold up in a few years (could be even a year, we don't know). I don't care who says it; games will become far advanced and Maxwell will be a thing in the past. It's unfortunate, but the truth.




If a 970 becomes a paper weight after a year, some game dev is not doing their job right! But point well taken.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/24 21:57:27 (permalink)
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Forget about what people say about this "overkill". Clearly they have no idea what the future will bring in a couple years. a GTX 970 will be crawling on its knees in a few years once game designers bring different, complex and advanced game engines to the table. A 970 will not hold up in a few years (could be even a year, we don't know). I don't care who says it; games will become far advanced and Maxwell will be a thing in the past. It's unfortunate, but the truth.




If a 970 becomes a paper weight after a year, some game dev is not doing their job right! But point well taken.


I probably over exaggerated by a huge amount.
 
With a higher and more powerful GPU, though, less dips while gaming, and will maintain that FPS more, plus increase in FPS too.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/24 22:59:37 (permalink)
I use a 980 Ti with a 1080P 60Hz TV. OC 980 Ti vs OC 1070, the 980 Ti is on average 10% faster, which is relevant to your inquiry.

I have a couple of games that can choke this card hard at 1080P when I crank up the eye candy. No, I don't use DSR.

So, depending on the game a 1070 is NOT overkill if you want that sexy, sexy eye candy.
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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/24 23:33:36 (permalink)
 
stalinx20Forget about what people say about this "overkill". Clearly they have no idea what the future will bring in a couple years. a GTX 970 will be crawling on its knees in a few years once game designers bring different, complex and advanced game engines to the table. A 970 will not hold up in a few years (could be even a year, we don't know). I don't care who says it; games will become far advanced and Maxwell will be a thing in the past. It's unfortunate, but the truth.

I concur. The 970 may be great right now and it may as well be the required card for this year's upcoming games, but with the evolution of the GPUs that are out now, the 970 will be left in the dust. 
 
 
hehehippieif u can, save up for an ultrawide. i'm loving 3440x1440 resolution. too bad Overwatch doesn't support 21:9 ratio, but Rise of the Tomb Raider looks absolutely stunning on my Dell U3415W. my current 1080 FE is running it perfectly above 60fps and hovers around 69*c to 71*c during gaming. that's just with the factory clocks and a modified fan curve using Afterburner.
How about the LG 2560x1080p Ultrawides? They are below $200 at Amazon, which I can save up for later and may be ideal for the 1070. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/24 23:57:15 (permalink)
Think i posted similar comment before, ppl were saying the 980 was overkill for a 1920x1080 monitor and certainly was not the case as back then i couldnt even max out several games at that resolution. Im sure a 1080 might eat up just bout any game at that resolution but i mean ur at least future proofing urself also so its not even a bad thing rly. I play at 1440p now and my friend is already saying a 1080 is overkill for that and im like so lol? Maybe it is but i have my heart set on a hybrid and pretty much gonna do what i want regardless because might upgrade monitor in future or something so to each his own :) 

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/25 00:36:17 (permalink)
The GTX 1070 should be a nice cool running card for any 1920 x 1080 system especially if you have a smaller PC chassis. Of course I recommend an EVGA ACX model.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/25 01:17:02 (permalink)
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hehehippieif u can, save up for an ultrawide. i'm loving 3440x1440 resolution. too bad Overwatch doesn't support 21:9 ratio, but Rise of the Tomb Raider looks absolutely stunning on my Dell U3415W. my current 1080 FE is running it perfectly above 60fps and hovers around 69*c to 71*c during gaming. that's just with the factory clocks and a modified fan curve using Afterburner.
How about the LG 2560x1080p Ultrawides? They are below $200 at Amazon, which I can save up for later and may be ideal for the 1070. 

*2560x1440 resolution.
 
and yes, it's a great resolution. it might not be as wide as the 3440x1440, but 2560x1440 has alot better scaling in most games because it's a 16:9 ratio whereas my Dell U3415W is 21:9 ratio. u will love the extra screen real estate when u switch from a 1080p screen. it's like having dual monitors without any borders.
 

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/25 02:18:53 (permalink)
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Think i posted similar comment before, ppl were saying the 980 was overkill for a 1920x1080 monitor and certainly was not the case as back then i couldnt even max out several games at that resolution. Im sure a 1080 might eat up just bout any game at that resolution but i mean ur at least future proofing urself also so its not even a bad thing rly. I play at 1440p now and my friend is already saying a 1080 is overkill for that and im like so lol? Maybe it is but i have my heart set on a hybrid and pretty much gonna do what i want regardless because might upgrade monitor in future or something so to each his own :) 


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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/25 04:49:45 (permalink)
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Think i posted similar comment before, ppl were saying the 980 was overkill for a 1920x1080 monitor and certainly was not the case as back then i couldnt even max out several games at that resolution. Im sure a 1080 might eat up just bout any game at that resolution but i mean ur at least future proofing urself also so its not even a bad thing rly. I play at 1440p now and my friend is already saying a 1080 is overkill for that and im like so lol? Maybe it is but i have my heart set on a hybrid and pretty much gonna do what i want regardless because might upgrade monitor in future or something so to each his own :) 


Lol. Running 2x 980 SLI on 1080P




 
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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/25 13:56:54 (permalink)
1920x1080 60hz is all anyone needs,  anymore is a waste
 
i'll be using mine till it burns out,   will replace it with a 1920x1080 120hz when the time comes
 
raising the rez only doubles the burden on the graphics card,  making you buy a new one.   
 
we started with 320x200..  then 640x480(vga) came out.. same thing,  the old rez looked just as good with aa enabled.   and today we have the new fx aa which takes no power and makes real aa obsolete.
 
so i'll stick to my hd
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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/27 10:22:14 (permalink)
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1920x1080 60hz is all anyone needs,  anymore is a waste
 
i'll be using mine till it burns out,   will replace it with a 1920x1080 120hz when the time comes
 
raising the rez only doubles the burden on the graphics card,  making you buy a new one.

You say that as if it's a bad thing.   Yes, I bought a 4K monitor several weeks ago, then decided to buy a Geforce 1080 in order to have enough power for the 4K monitor at decent framerates and high quality. And I don't regret it for an instant. I used a 24" 1920x1200 monitor for the last 11 years, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. It was the best money I ever spent on computer stuff, with no question. It still works, and I'll be setting it back up as a 2ndary monitor next to my 4K for web browsing and whatnot.
 
But that 4K monitor is gorgeous. Now that I'm used to what amounts (to my older eyes) to a retina display on my desktop with this 28" 4K monitor, I can barely stand to look at my 24" 1080p work monitor. I never really noticed the pixels on the 1080p monitor before, but the 4K monitor has spoiled me.
 
So, if you have the money, buy a 4K monitor, then buy whatever graphics card you need to be able to drive it, and enjoy! This isn't a bad thing, it's an awesome thing.
jfoldswe started with 320x200..  then 640x480(vga) came out.. same thing,  the old rez looked just as good with aa enabled.   and today we have the new fx aa which takes no power and makes real aa obsolete.
 
so i'll stick to my hd

That's fine. It's your choice. But don't knock it till you try it. A 4K monitor offers a huge improvement in visual quality and detail that you really need to see to believe. Yeah, it takes some beefy video processing to drive it in modern games, but fortunately, suitably beefy cards have just released. Within 1-2 years we can expect the price of sufficient video processing capacity to drop more firmly into the mainstream gamer price range, and I would bet that within 2-4 years 4K will be the de facto gaming standard.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/27 10:31:11 (permalink)
I use this Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" (1920x1200) LED LCD Monitor - 16:10 - @60Hz on a 3-Way Titan Gaming Computer.
I will use the same when the GTX 1080Ti HC or Hybrid is released.
I do have two Dell Ultra HD 4K Monitor P2415Q 24-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor 3840 x 2160 Pixels and I do not use or like them.
The text is to small for me for an everyday Monitor.
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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/27 10:31:11 (permalink)
I'm sure a 1070 will be perfectly fine for 1920x1080, and probably for 1440p too, but if one considers 4K, I don't think the 1070 will cut it.
 
I was originally going to buy a 1070 for use with my new 4K monitor, but after reading a lot, and seeing benchmarks and whatnot, I realized that if I spent around $400 on a 1070 I'd probably still not be happy, so I may as well spend $650 and actually be happy. And I'm glad I did. With at least two modern games I'm playing right now, the 1080 SC with a moderate overclock is just barely not pegging at 60 fps on high or ultra settings. With the 1070 I'd have certainly dropped from the high 50s to probably mid 40s or so, and that would have sucked a lot of the enjoyment out of the new purchase.
 
I think the 1070 is in an awkward place where it's simply not necessary for 1080p, where we already had enough graphics power in the existing cards, and it's not enough for 4K. There's the middle ground of 1440p, but i honestly think that 1440p is a half measure that will ultimately be unsatisfying in the end. A 1440p monitor at the 27" size is just barely more pixel dense than a 24" 1080p monitor. Sure, that's an improvement, but it's not a quantum leap type of improvement. 1080p to 4K is that quantum leap. And that's going to require more than a 1070.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/27 10:39:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Kaixa-san 2016/06/28 00:06:25
Because of the ability for DSR to quadruple the resolution of any monitor and the fact that 4k downscaled to 1080p still looks much better than just running in 1080p, this is how I always game as modern games rarely allow for SSAA anymore. I would say no GPU is really overkill.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/27 11:45:40 (permalink)
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I use this Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" (1920x1200) LED LCD Monitor - 16:10 - @60Hz on a 3-Way Titan Gaming Computer.
I will use the same when the GTX 1080Ti HC or Hybrid is released.
I do have two Dell Ultra HD 4K Monitor P2415Q 24-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor 3840 x 2160 Pixels and I do not use or like them.
The text is to small for me for an everyday Monitor.

You do know that you can have Windows scale the text so that it's more readable, right? I've got it scaled so it's easier to read, but still smaller than my 1920x1200 monitor, so that I still benefit from being able to show more on the screen at once. And then I get the full 4K resolution benefit in games, which is amazing. My 1920x1200 is a Dell 2405fpw, which I spent $1000 for in 2005, and it's been fantastic for over 11 years now. But the 4K monitor from Monoprice that I just spent $350 on a few weeks ago is better. It happens with technology. Things get better, faster, and cheaper over time. We're at that point now with monitors and resolution, where 4K itself is cheap enough, and starting with the 1080 series, single-card graphics solutions are fast enough, and within 1-3 years will also be cheap enough. I think 4K is the future, 1080p is the past, and 1440p is this awkward half measure that's better than 1080p, but will be outright superceded by 4K in a very short time. 
 
 

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/27 12:02:35 (permalink)
i love the hell outta my Dell U3415W. i would choose 3440x1440 over 4k any day for my PC.
 
4k will be left for TV/movies.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/27 12:15:04 (permalink)
Hey, it's up to you how you config your sys and what YOU are doin' with your money... as the nineeighty came out, so many people said that it will be something like "overkill" for 1080p... look how it goes today... I'm on 1080p too with a Samsung LED. - I'm totally satisfied with it and because of the launch-rock'n'roll atm I planned to buy an 1080 at the end of the year.
 
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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/28 00:22:55 (permalink)
4K is awesome, but I'm not interested. I've already set sights and have money stashed on that SC 1070, when things become calm and then a simple, clearance sale-bought 1080p 144hz display when companies like ASUS roll out new 1080p displays with higher hertz.
 
"Overkill" to me seems to be a on/off misnomer for PC gaming builds.  
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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/28 01:13:41 (permalink)
Just like they did to 480 & 720P (720P not just yet, it's close) (along with analog monitors), 1080P will be a thing in the past, and 4K will be the standards. It's not happening now but it will happen. So, when the time comes....... be ready for it.

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/28 08:35:36 (permalink)
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I use this Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" (1920x1200) LED LCD Monitor - 16:10 - @60Hz on a 3-Way Titan Gaming Computer.
I will use the same when the GTX 1080Ti HC or Hybrid is released.
I do have two Dell Ultra HD 4K Monitor P2415Q 24-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor 3840 x 2160 Pixels and I do not use or like them.
The text is to small for me for an everyday Monitor.

You do know that you can have Windows scale the text so that it's more readable, right? I've got it scaled so it's easier to read, but still smaller than my 1920x1200 monitor, so that I still benefit from being able to show more on the screen at once. And then I get the full 4K resolution benefit in games, which is amazing. My 1920x1200 is a Dell 2405fpw, which I spent $1000 for in 2005, and it's been fantastic for over 11 years now. But the 4K monitor from Monoprice that I just spent $350 on a few weeks ago is better. It happens with technology. Things get better, faster, and cheaper over time. We're at that point now with monitors and resolution, where 4K itself is cheap enough, and starting with the 1080 series, single-card graphics solutions are fast enough, and within 1-3 years will also be cheap enough. I think 4K is the future, 1080p is the past, and 1440p is this awkward half measure that's better than 1080p, but will be outright superceded by 4K in a very short time. 
 

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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/28 11:11:54 (permalink)
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Because of the ability for DSR to quadruple the resolution of any monitor and the fact that 4k downscaled to 1080p still looks much better than just running in 1080p, this is how I always game as modern games rarely allow for SSAA anymore. I would say no GPU is really overkill.

What do you use for the sharpness setting? I usually end up with fuzzy text when I enable DSR on my card.


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Re: Using a SC 1070 for a 1920x1080p/60hz monitor 2016/06/28 20:03:32 (permalink)
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Think i posted similar comment before, ppl were saying the 980 was overkill for a 1920x1080 monitor and certainly was not the case as back then i couldnt even max out several games at that resolution. Im sure a 1080 might eat up just bout any game at that resolution but i mean ur at least future proofing urself also so its not even a bad thing rly. I play at 1440p now and my friend is already saying a 1080 is overkill for that and im like so lol? Maybe it is but i have my heart set on a hybrid and pretty much gonna do what i want regardless because might upgrade monitor in future or something so to each his own :) 


Lol. Running 2x 980 SLI on 1080P




 
Who is running 980 sli on 1920x1080? 


Me. And why did I choose that? because I do not like dips in FPS, so with SLI, less dips and less workload on both GPUs. I'm ready to go 4K though. Just waiting for 120hz 4K monitors.
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