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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/29 22:16:31
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/29 22:17:37
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Reserve sections completed  
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 15:37:16
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first ! lol  Why does it feel like xmas is coming early this year ? Can't wait for this to start picking up steam 
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 16:29:32
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Why did you reserve a whole page? Your last guide only used 3 posts and the rest of your reserved posts are still "under construction" for 2 years. I'll just get my +1 post count in this thread too, I guess.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 16:40:03
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Why did you reserve a whole page? Your last guide only used 3 posts and the rest of your reserved posts are still "under construction" for 2 years. I'll just get my +1 post count in this thread too, I guess.
He told me that he needed those posts for reserves. He said he, and thebski will use them. I figure it's all planned out ahead of time.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 20:19:30
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There's quite a bit planned, so we should use most of them. The game and drivers are also likely to evolve, so it's nice to leave posts for future issues. Plus, it's much easier to delete an unneeded extra later than to add once the thread starts going.
Finishing up the first stuff tonight and should start getting sections posted up tomorrow. Hope you guys are enjoying the game so far. Stay tuned!
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 20:53:34
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I don't see how. The game is extremely easy to set up and run. The only issues currently are going to be folks that try to use settings that are too extreme for their hardware. The basic stuff.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 20:58:04
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I don't see how. The game is extremely easy to set up and run. The only issues currently are going to be folks that try to use settings that are too extreme for their hardware. The basic stuff.
Why don't you just wait until it's done before it's criticized? Maybe when it's all done you will feel different. (Not really fair, is it?)
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 21:18:41
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I don't see how. The game is extremely easy to set up and run. The only issues currently are going to be folks that try to use settings that are too extreme for their hardware. The basic stuff.
For example, just for the stuff I've thought of right now I have FPS and VRAM data for all 10 maps for Ultra, High, and my preferred custom preset. Also plan to do system memory scaling, cpu speed scaling, pci 2.0 vs 3.0 tests, Windows 7 vs Windows 8, HT vs. no HT, 6 core vs 4 core once I get my dead 3930K replaced (died the day before BF4 was released  ), etc. I also plan to do a detailed performance review of each map in an empty server in an attempt to identify bad spots in the maps so when people have problems, they can see if it could be a system problem or is simply a game engine problem. That's just what I have planned for surround and at this moment. Maniac has the 1080P stuff on lock. Also don't forget there will be 4 expansion packs coming out. Anyways, I'm not going to spend a bunch of posts here in the beginning defending. Certainly not all of the information in the thread will be useful to everyone, but hopefully in it's entirety it can aid a lot of people whether it be game settings, troubleshooting, hardware purchasing decisions, etc. depending on the individual users needs.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 21:29:17
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HeavyHemi
I don't see how. The game is extremely easy to set up and run. The only issues currently are going to be folks that try to use settings that are too extreme for their hardware. The basic stuff.
That would be correct *for experienced users with good hardware and clean configs This BF release has been outstanding in many respects!! -->and the auto detect graphics settings feature actually works this time, and is doing a great setup job for "conservative" settings. But as you can see by the posts (here at evga and elsewhere) that many users -are- having issues  And others have questions about hardware and Vram requirements... The Guide is to help those users with issues... And to help those wondering about hardware requirements As well as helping inexperienced users understand what the available settings are, how they function and what impacts those settings changes can have.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 21:52:11
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I can't wait for this guide to be finished. It looks like it will be chock-full of information. I'm really interested in seeing the performance between Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 21:56:12
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HeavyHemi
I don't see how. The game is extremely easy to set up and run. The only issues currently are going to be folks that try to use settings that are too extreme for their hardware. The basic stuff.
That would be correct
*for experienced users with good hardware and clean configs
This BF release has been outstanding in many respects!!
-->and the auto detect graphics settings feature actually works this time, and is doing a great setup job for "conservative" settings.
But as you can see by the posts (here at evga and elsewhere) that many users -are- having issues
And others have questions about hardware and Vram requirements...
The Guide is to help those users with issues...
And to help those wondering about hardware requirements
As well as helping inexperienced users understand what the available settings are, how they function and what impacts those settings changes can have.
Here's a good way to tank frame rates even with SLI Titans : 4x MSAA with 200% screen scaling.  Personally I like the way 2x MSAA with 125% screen scaling looks and runs. At 1920x1080 with all other settings maxed, I'm floating around 100-120 FPS with 85-90% GPU usage. Pretty ideal for my setup.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 23:02:00
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OMG taking foreverrrrrrrr on this. I want it pronto. Seriously though. What do you think of HBAO this time around in BF4? Worth using it? Disable?
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/30 23:10:50
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Looking forward to this
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/31 03:45:16
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Good stuff looking forward to a informative read :D
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/31 12:53:29
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 I am also looking forward to this! Also good information
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/10/31 15:28:47
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Looking forward for the surround guide and some graphics settings seem different from BF3. Also looking forward to GTX 790 release to maybe upgrade if it’s worth it
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/01 12:11:49
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Can't wait for the guide to be completed!
Thank to you I learned that Textures from High to Ultra were a joke in Battlefield 3, let's see if we have another setting like that in BF4 where it makes no difference.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/02 02:26:07
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Give it time everyone. If you want a good quality guide the screenshots, analysis, and testing can not be done at a quick pace.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/05 10:50:21
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Can't wait for the guide to be completed!
Thank to you I learned that Textures from High to Ultra were a joke in Battlefield 3, let's see if we have another setting like that in BF4 where it makes no difference.
No kidding I cannot wait either!
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/05 15:39:19
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Look forward to seeing a good read.. and hopefully learn something, as well. :)
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/08 22:35:51
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No sticky yet? Had to actually scroll down to find this guide :) Can't wait once it's finished and thanks for your effort guys!
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/10 17:29:18
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Why did you reserve a whole page? Your last guide only used 3 posts and the rest of your reserved posts are still "under construction" for 2 years. I'll just get my +1 post count in this thread too, I guess.
I wondered the same thing. There's no limit to how much you can put in a single post as far as I know. Well I know there is a database BLOB field limit, but it's so large that it's not worth mentioning. Two people making a post each any length they desire equals two posts total.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/10 22:16:13
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Please leave the guys alone. We had the complaints during the BF3 guide construction. Let them do their thing. You won't be sorry. :)
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/11 03:06:29
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Please leave the guys alone. We had the complaints during the BF3 guide construction. Let them do their thing. You won't be sorry. :)
Gathering the datasets for 10 multiplayer maps across Windows 7 and Windows 8 -and- detailing all the settings options is time consuming, and everyone expects our numbers to be correct the first time... Please understand that we are only trying to do the best job possible
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/11 10:06:18
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2 things to mention- if not already thought of ; 1) test settings based on different %percentages of using the "network smoothing" factor settings....2) have people check their cores being 'parked' - ( I was getting very often hitching/ stuttering ,almost like lag but just more like frame skipping/stopping - thinking it was graphics too high, I made various lower grfx changes that didn't seem to help-- UNTIL I found a forum talking about how CPU intensive BF4 is and how you should get all your cpu threads to their fullest . I thought I had mine unparked but apparently i did NOT. After going through the short procedure of making all 4 cores, 8 threads unparked - it cleared up my goofy skipping issues. I never thought my x79 i7-3820 chip would be hampered, but it was.)
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/11 12:04:46
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A third thing to mention: test 32 bit versus 64 bit version of the game
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/12 07:45:29
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2 things to mention- if not already thought of ;
1) test settings based on different %percentages of using the "network smoothing" factor settings....
2) have people check their cores being 'parked' -
( I was getting very often hitching/ stuttering ,almost like lag but just more like frame skipping/stopping - thinking it was graphics too high, I made various lower grfx changes that didn't seem to help-- UNTIL I found a forum talking about how CPU intensive BF4 is and how you should get all your cpu threads to their fullest . I thought I had mine unparked but apparently i did NOT.
After going through the short procedure of making all 4 cores, 8 threads unparked - it cleared up my goofy skipping issues. I never thought my x79 i7-3820 chip would be hampered, but it was.)
That might be what I need to try in Windows 7. My 3930K machine (Win 7) honestly runs terribly compared to the 3770K machine (Win 8.1) because it doesn't use the CPU. I'm currently waiting on a copy of Windows 8.1 for the 6-core machine. I may try unparking the cores to see if it makes a difference in Win 7 before I make the switch to 8.1 on that machine.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/12 10:32:00
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aka_STEVE_b
2 things to mention- if not already thought of ;
1) test settings based on different %percentages of using the "network smoothing" factor settings....
2) have people check their cores being 'parked' -
( I was getting very often hitching/ stuttering ,almost like lag but just more like frame skipping/stopping - thinking it was graphics too high, I made various lower grfx changes that didn't seem to help-- UNTIL I found a forum talking about how CPU intensive BF4 is and how you should get all your cpu threads to their fullest . I thought I had mine unparked but apparently i did NOT.
After going through the short procedure of making all 4 cores, 8 threads unparked - it cleared up my goofy skipping issues. I never thought my x79 i7-3820 chip would be hampered, but it was.)
That might be what I need to try in Windows 7. My 3930K machine (Win 7) honestly runs terribly compared to the 3770K machine (Win 8.1) because it doesn't use the CPU. I'm currently waiting on a copy of Windows 8.1 for the 6-core machine. I may try unparking the cores to see if it makes a difference in Win 7 before I make the switch to 8.1 on that machine.
I just installed BF4 on Win 8.1 the other day ago, was running on Win 7 all along. The game runs a whole lot smoother on 8.1 with much better CPU & GPU utilization. GPU usage: 85-95% (Win 8.1) versus 75-85% (Win 7) FPS: 115-125 (Win 8.1) versus 95-105 (Win 7) All settings on Ultra with AA post turned off.
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Re: Ultimate Battlefield 4 Guide
2013/11/12 11:31:19
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Looking forward to this guide also. I finally dialed in my video settings , for now, until the guide has something better...On a 4770K @ 4.2 and a single 780, I have motion blur off, AA deffered off, AA post low and everthing on ultra, except for post processing, setting at medium. This gives me the performance I like with the image clarity I like. The game looks beautiful.
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