USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5

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2010/10/29 17:55:14 (permalink)
Hello to All
            I recently purchased a GT-240 1gb DDR5 card for this computer. This card has proven to be a great improvement over the GForce 6800 that it replaced. The 6800 was the original video card from Dell. I've been using this Dell 4700 for 5 year's and it works perfectly (only because I KEEP IT working that way) with ALL programs, including several flight simulators; Flight Simulator 2004, FSX, Combat Flight Simulator 2 and 3 and several other games, many of which have some steep operating requirements, ALL with better than average frame rates. NOW....everything simply LOOK'S better. I'm using it with the 258.96 driver.
             I've scoured the internet reading different forums and articles regarding not only the GT240 but the use of 1gb of VRAM on a video card. Finally, I decided that THIS forum would be the BEST place to ask my questions. There are several comments in other forums, etc. saying that the GT240 is simply NOT capable of fully utilizing 1gb of memory and that the 500mb version is "the way to go". Are people saying this because the card is NOT capable of PROVIDING ANY BENEFIT AT ALL with a GB of RAM?.....is it just a marketing ploy? I have no intentions of taking it out......it simply works to well......but I WOULD at least like to THINK that I made the RIGHT choice from a technical point of view and for what some people have been calling "future proofing". I've read that video card's with a lot of VRAM are needed for operating at high resolutions (which I am NOT using). Actually, I'm using the original CRT monitor that came with my first DELL 10 year's ago....a 19" flat screen Sony Trinitron.....but I DO plan to get a 24" LCD monitor as soon as I decide on which one. As far as resolution is concerned I'm only using 800X600 and the 240 has even made THAT resolution look better. I WILL, however, be using higher resolutions with the NEW monitor. I know that the new LCD monitors use a 16:9 aspect ratio and that was ANOTHER reason I wanted a new card. I'm using XP Home Edition, a 160gb hard drive and 4gb of RAM. XP will be supported by Microsoft until 2014 so I'm not losing any sleep over it. If this computer was a constant source of headaches it simply wouldn't be here......but it's not. Yes, I could have replaced the 305 watt power supply and used almost any other video card out there......I literally just didn't feel like doing it and cost was NOT an issue. The power supply requirements of the 240 were obviously a big selling point for me, not to mention the fact that it's simply a modern card. 
             In light of the reviews and comments that I referred to I would like to know what ADVANTAGES the 1GB version of this card has (in what condition's/circumstances) when compared to the 500MB version?
             I would GREATLY appreciate ANY and ALL replies to this post and I'm sure A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WILL AS WELL.   
                  
                                    Thank You Very Much,   RADIOHAM
 
  
 
        
post edited by radioham - 2010/10/30 04:25:20
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    CraptacularOne
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    Re:USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5 2010/10/29 18:42:55 (permalink)
    Is the card capable of using 1GB VRAM? Sure it is, but in the latest games like Metro 2033, Battlefield BC2 and Mafia II running the resolutions and settings required to actually use up the full 1GB your card has would honestly bring it to it's knees.
     
    The amount of VRAM used by your card is determined by several factors. Factors like resolution, higher quality textures, anti aliasing and post processing of the image will be what determines how much VRAM your GPU will use of it's allotted 1GB. You are playing by today's standards at a tiny resolution (hell even my cell phone has about the same screen resolution you're playing at) and you're playing older games that don't particularly need large amounts of VRAM to begin with.
     
    So in short, is the GT240 capable of using it's 1GB of VRAM? Sure, but not in todays latest games and keep a respectable frame rate at the resolutions required to use it. Is your GT240 using it's 1GB of VRAM? Not at 800x600 resolution in the older games you are playing.

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    Re:USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5 2010/10/30 04:29:39 (permalink)
    Hi CraptacularOne
                          Thanks for your little explaination. I've ADDED one other question at the end of the post (about the ADVANTAGES) that I would like your response to.
                                           Thank You,  Radioham 
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    Re:USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5 2010/10/30 09:42:49 (permalink)
    The advantage it has is kind of a moot point since the GPU on the card itself really lacks the power needed to render the images smoothly enough that would use up all of the 1GB of VRAM. You could have just as easily got the 512MB DDR5 version and saved a few bucks since especially in your case there is no way you are going to come even remotely near 1GB VRAM usage at only 800x600 resolution.
     
    To give you an ideal of the kinds of settings and resolution you'll need to surpass even 1GB of VRAM, it wasn't till I started using 3 monitors at 1680x1050 resolution each for a combined resolution of 5040x1050 that I started to go up an over 1GB of VRAM of my cards. At the time I was using 3 GTX470's. I have since upgraded my monitors to 3 2560x1600 resolution screens for a combined resolution of 7680x1600 and now I have 3 GTX480's. And even at that mind numbing resolution, my games are only using between 1.2 - 1.4GB VRAM. And that's in some of the latest games like Dirt 2, Battlefield BC2, Mafia II, AVP and Medal of Honor with settings maxed with 2x AA.

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    Re:USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5 2010/10/30 17:48:44 (permalink)
         I've been reading additional articles on other sites (mainly Tom's Hardware) since I started this post and and I'm finding out that (no surprise here) all of your comments are absolutely correct.
         Having said that, I'm just wondering if YOU feel that there are OTHER popular video card's (not just the EVGA GT-240 1gb DDR5) that are offered and being used that have more VRAM than they ARE EVEN CAPABLE OF USING not to mention the fact that they never would anyway.  I just don't want to feel that I'M the ONLY one who's driving a Corvette with a Volkswagon engine. It's the PRINCIPLE that really bother's me......it's not as though were dealing with high cost items here. 
                                      Thanks Again CraptacularOne
     
     
     
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    Re:USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5 2010/10/30 17:59:29 (permalink)
    Their are several cards out that can use their allotted VRAM but they are higher end offerings. And even in their case you will need an extremely high resolution in order to use all of the VRAM they provide. Cards like the GTX470, GTX480 and HD5850 and HD5870 are all capable of using their VRAM allotment and keep things playable, but again high resolutions and settings are going to be needed.
     
    It's not that you have a Volkswagon, you have a card that suits your needs. You just overshot your VRAM needs, but in PC gaming having too much is never a bad thing.
     
    For you playing at a small resolution, high amounts of VRAM are just simply not going to be used. A GPU doesn't have to use all of it's VRAM to be effective. It only has to use what it needs to render the scene. The mount of VRAM does not necessarily directly relate to a cards performance.

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    Re:USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5 2010/10/30 18:28:06 (permalink)
    Just one other question that I can think of as we have pretty much discussed this to pieces already. In one of your earlier comments you mentioned that I could have have just bought the GT 240 500mb version. In the not to distant future I will, indeed, be using a new LCD monitor, I just don't know which one yet. At that point I will obviously be using higher resolutions. Is it POSSIBLE that when I AM using the higher resolutions with THIS card (1GB) I could actually find myself playing a game that the 500MB version would POSSIBLY have a problem with? This card has 1GB of vram on it but IN REALITY even IF it is just CAPABLE of using, 600 to 800 or 900 mb of vram woudln't THAT be an advantage over the 500mb version?  
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    Re:USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5 2010/10/30 18:32:45 (permalink)
    That will depend on the game and resolution of your monitor. But honestly, your card is not a high end offering. It's a budget card and sorry to say that by today's performance standards is left well and far behind from what is even considered a mainstream card at this point.
     
    Yes there can be specific situations where it will be advantageous over the 512MB version, but those situations will be few and far between.

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    Re:USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5 2010/10/30 18:45:15 (permalink)
    Thanks for ALL of your responses. I guess I can rationalize and say that I have the most powerful card I could get to use with a 305 watt power supply.....which WAS the critical factor. I just don't feel like changing it. In regard to VRAM....HEY.....I've got some HEAD ROOM!! LOL. I'm sure a lot of people will find your responses very informative and helpful.
                                          Thanks Again,  RADIOHAM   
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    Re:USE OF 1GB OF VRAM On THE GT-240 DDR-5 2010/10/30 18:47:48 (permalink)
    radioham

    Thanks for ALL of your responses. I guess I can rationalize and say that I have the most powerful card I could get to use with a 305 watt power supply.....which WAS the critical factor. I just don't feel like changing it. In regard to VRAM....HEY.....I've got some HEAD ROOM!! LOL. I'm sure a lot of people will find your responses very informative and helpful.
                                         Thanks Again,  RADIOHAM   

    Yeah, you have a little head room to say the least...lol

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