Tropickz
Whaaatttttt  
The details on the cards are from a poster on Chiphell. I just don't know Chinese(?)
 
Maybe rumor.. proceed with caution
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/42032/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-ii-vs-amd-radeon-r9-390x-leaked-benchmarks/index.html
 

I really hope it's not true. I was hoping AMD would be bringing power consumption down to under 200 watts.

Can't wait to see the real benchmarks. I'm still holding out for GM210 as I think GM200 isn't the full Maxwell chip. No mention of ARM cores either.
 
This thread needs to be merged with this one as it was posted first.

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT

Sajin
Can't wait to see the real benchmarks. I'm still holding out for GM210 as I think GM200 isn't the full Maxwell chip. No mention of ARM cores either.
 
This thread needs to be merged with this one as it was posted first.

Actually all two of them showed be posted with my thread that I have linked up from weeks ago since they both have benchmarks of the 390x.

Guess the mod will have to figure out what he wants to do. 

Vlada011
My god new Radeon is 65% stronger chip than R9-290X and dominate on higher resolution thanks to better and faster memory.
Why NVIDIA don't give us 65% improvements. Off course NVIDIA will cost 1000$ and AMD 650$.
NVIDIA can't physical to launch GM210 in different process if they late, they was to busy with selling mid range as premium.
Launching GTX980 in time with AMD and GM200 can serious damage NVIDIA budget and can't cover bad investments in tablets.
 
 
 

Because nvidia does smaller step generation cards. Amd will do one large 65% upgrade, 290x to 390x. While nvidia will do 2 steps of 35%, the 980 and 980ti.

The titan will of course be more expensive because it isnt for the normal gamer. It is for 3d rendering and business use. You can use a titan if you want but it isnt going to help folding or gaming.

Vlada011
I don't care for who is Titan if AMD have more fps in games.
They can say graphic is for King Arthur, if he is weaker in Crysis 3 gamers will avoid that.
 
1% of professionals will buy Titan. They don't even open section with name GeForce.
GeForce is gaming section and it's other reason why NVIDIA find way how to justify overpriced. 
Titan is GeForce and use every years worse and worse GeForce drivers, same as GTX760 and GTX650.
And I think for gamers is better option on 18 months new cards with bigger performance improvements, whole line.
Except maybe 2-3 months difference between low segment and other cards. 
 
 

Lets also remember these are rumors not fact. For all we know the amd could only 5 or 500 percent improvement.

Looking like a mad man calling for the end of the world, vlada.

Time will tell all. We will wait.

Vlada011
 
Nooo, I would only like to NVIDIA win, but their politic annoy me little.
Because sooner or later if customer buy their card will look as donkey near AMD.
That's product of their politic of dosing performance while someone try hard to offer best they can, and best they know for OK price, AMD.
I saw that before 2-3 week... If NVIDIA launch GM200, not GM210 they will lose maybe... Now only we can wait and hope NVIDIA will launch GM210 before cross on other architecture. Because GM200 not look premium winner as GK110 unlocked over R9-290X, special when more and more people are owners of 4K monitors or plan to buy something like that in future Bermuda XT Crossfire will look as nice option, very fast for 1000$.
Most of gamer carrier I had AMD-ATI. Maybe 75% ATI, 25% NVIDIA. There are many nice cards, 5870, before that 4890 and 4870 I fast change 2-3 nice cards than... Most of AMD cards OC very well... Worse overclocker in my hand was NVIDIA card. But last years NVIDIA is really better and I feel that in games and I have no some reason to back on AMD. Problems come later with 6970, gaming was terrible and latter drivers when I back on HD5870, 1-2 years after launch.
I usually used very old drivers later for HD5870.
 

Issue is that Nvidia only has competition with AMD. Nvidia has to keep AMD head above water just enough that Nvidia is not hit with monopoly cases and laws to hit them. It is a difficult practice to dominate the market enough that you have control but not appear to be a monopoly. Military does the same but in reverse, buy from a primary good company, but not appear to favor that company.

So let me get this straight, someone claims to have access to a Titan II, a 380X and a 390X? Oh wait, Hazman posted it. It all makes sense now. 

Believe me AMD will launch 50% stronger card than NVIDIA for 10% higher price only if they could. 
But their lab is not so advanced and no technology for that. NVIDIA is side who try only to give 5-10% difference.
Remember what they try to do with Titan Z after win GTX780Ti, but AMD fast launch better card and for half cheaper thanks to higher clock same as on single GPU and because better scaling with multi GPU. NVIDIA always when launch dual cards cut something, as they afraid to give too much performance.
Because of that they lose with R9-295X, GK110 on 1100MHz is not same as GK110 on 800MHz. I strong believe that AMD try to offer best they can and best they know in that moment with last available technology. Look only what NVIDIA do with memory. That's suffering, complete. 
And after they offer short memory on GTX780Ti, they didn't launched Maxwell on different way with 384bit and 6GB...That would be too much... But 4GB 512bit is again too much... what to do... let's give them 4GB 256bit. And now AMD have 9 time faster video memory.
And you will see card faster on 4K is faster and on 2560X1440 you will see that. I would like most to upgrade on GM200 and than fast to sell and upgrade on GM210... That would be excellent, if NVIDIA launch something like that. Lose can't be more than 300e.

Situation with next high end segment have two scenario.
One is as usually, GM200 vs R9-390X, AMD Win and that's obvious. This results are similar as R9-295X vs Titan Z...
And than NVIDIA launch premium GM210 and win. That scenario is possible only if NVIDIA launch GM210 3-5 months after GM200.
Any time more will give AMD space to again launch revision and you see their difference between chips is more than 50% every time.
From HD7970 to R9-290X difference is huge. From R9-290X to R9-390X difference is huge. Their buyers really have some schedule nice and not fast with nice performance increase, no crippled chips than full, everything is in same time and you can decide nicely and prepare for next graphic card.
Second scenario is to NVIDIA leave GM200 as last Maxwell chip and allow to AMD win with their special marketing where weaker card become stronger somehow in head of people. In that case again give time to AMD one year or more before new chip and you see they not launch before 50-60-65% difference. If we talk from side of someone who bought HD7970 and play games 2 years than upgrade on R9-290X for 400-450$ and than wait R9-390X with 65% performance improvements and 9 time faster memory, lower production process than we envy to Radeon buyers and to be jealous because NVIDIA treat us as dogs.

lehpron

Brad_Hawthorne
So let me get this straight, someone claims to have access to a Titan II, a 380X and a 390X? Oh wait, Hazman posted it. It all makes sense now. 

Exactly my suspicion, it is very difficult for me to believe someone had access to multiples of unreleased cards and did benchmarks on them.  My guess, someone did math and estimated based on so-far rumored numbers, but plays it off as leaked benchmark, and some people fall for it like gospel.
 

like a certain "leak" from wccftech that 290x was 30-40% more powerful than a 780... granted it was more powerful but not 40% more powerful.

lehpron
Exactly my suspicion, it is very difficult for me to believe someone had access to multiples of unreleased cards and did benchmarks on them.  My guess, someone did math and estimated based on so-far rumored numbers, but plays it off as leaked benchmark, and some people fall for it like gospel.
 

+1 for you too

I believe, that would be huge mistake, maybe one of bigger I saw to someone present Radeon as stronger but instead of that NVIDIA to be stronger.
I would love, but that's hope without good reason. Fact that people had in December 2012 same specification as today only NVIDIA cut them and fact that AMD improve over 120% together with R9-390X from HD7970 and even more for 2 generation are not encouraging.
I would love... to delete that site from list for news and speculations but that's not possible. 
AMD make very powerful card with free Sync (G-Sync replica), in lower production process special for them, with HighBandwithMemory 3D stacked RAM, very efficient, you see from list their second card R9-380X Fiji is stronger than GTX980 double more than reference GTX980 from reference GTX780Ti on 2560x1440 resolution. AMD prepare monster and NVIDIA will cut price these time and that didn't bring them customers. They customers used on them because they can say we have strongest card on market and they will pay 200$ for 10% stronger card. They payed years in back only because of that.
Story about drivers, PhysX, etc... That's minority, public love winners.
AMD didn't present Fiji as high end and ask 600-700$, but they could, stronger and more powerfull than GTX980 with more video memory.
No they wait whole line and they will ask 350-400$ for Fiji. Very fast 300$ for reference model.
I only hear one voice from all people from guy who follow IT industry 20 years, He told before one year that soon NVIDIA will be in AMD position.
And their hard times will come. Off course I ignore that... but it's not impossible. 
 
If I could predict I vote for NVIDIA win but with GM210. Only not as people imagine. 
That will be only 10% card stronger than AMD but much much expensive, with less video memory and slower memory maybe 3-4 months after GM200 and Bermuda XT. For GM200 chances are 5%, even win look black with all AMD improvements on memory field.
 
NVIDIA had plans to launch Maxwell first or second generation in lower process but they redesign chips later because some problems, they didn't told why.

seta8967
Vlada, you are basing everything on a rumor. A rumor that is from a very very far reaching and has no foundation of truth. If they do have a 390x and titan2 on hand usually they would show a picture or glimpsing shot or something.

What, like when someone said they had a 5960x, and they delidded it nearly 2 months before release...... HAHAHA...
 
 
 
 
The proof lies in what is exposed, not what is said... 

Scarlet-Tech

seta8967
Vlada, you are basing everything on a rumor. A rumor that is from a very very far reaching and has no foundation of truth. If they do have a 390x and titan2 on hand usually they would show a picture or glimpsing shot or something.

What, like when someone said they had a 5960x, and they delidded it nearly 2 months before release...... HAHAHA...
 
 
 
 
The proof lies in what is exposed, not what is said... 

I remember that everyone was sayong that the 5960x die was a 16 core server cpu with 8 cores disabled, despite intel already showing the lithograph

Vlada
As for "free"synch vs gsync, it is similair to gsync but the whole rumor of it costing nothing are exaggerated. AMD said it was a open patent for anyone to use not the price. The rumores acer freesynch was only 50 dollars cheaper than their gsynch. Most people should be happy with freesynch, but it is not free in cost.