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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 05:02:57
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z3r0t0l0rence Are -bigadv WU's still popping up from time to time? Bigadvs (if you are running one of the Linux distros) are definitely still there today. I'm running a 6901 right now that I picked up yesterday afternoon on my 980X. My message to the Team is, any of you that have hexacores, please consider running Linux and go after the Bigadvs while we still have them. They have been available to us all along and we are missing the opportunity to boost EVGA's scores if people with hexas are still running standard SMPs. Also, and the other Teams know this, using the -bigbeta switch (with hexas) seems to be a bit more effective for snagging the current crop of Bigadvs (6901, 6903, 6904). Standard disclaimer: you will get no support from PG if you run -bigbeta and have an issue with a WU and are not member of the "beta team". But right now that risk is just about zero with these (3) Bigadv units. To all of our Team, we are probably in for a bumpy ride before all is said and done. Unless something very radical happens, I believe we will be passed by [H] soon. When that happens, we will see who is really here for the Team long term. Hopefully, anyone that is here today is already in that camp. The #1 spot for Folding Teams can churn and change hands. Remain strong as a team because our day can return just as it is now happening for [H]. To me, this situation in some ways has raised my interest level. I love a good competition and now we really have one to sink our Folding teeth into. Let's respond to the challenge even if it takes us a couple years to realize (just like it has for [H]). Never say die and "sound off like you gotta pair"!!
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 05:44:41
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All I'm getting bigadv wise is 8101's. They net around 90k ppd on my 5620's at 3.8Ghz. Wish I could run higher but my baord doesn't like going above 200 b-clk. I wish I had the cash to pick up some 5645's or better. But that's not going to happen for probably a couple years.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 05:50:19
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My only regret is that I have no more hardware to give to the cause . . . And that the 600 class video cards don't have the optimized code to fully utilize their potential . . . Realistically, it DOES frustrate me to see a team like [H] able to get a hold of that kind of big iron, when I can usually only update a single video card a year for my farm, and have them talk down to me like I'm not a worthy part of the F@H program because I simply don't have access to those kinds of resources. BUT, that frustration is tempered by knowing that when push comes to shove, we have a core of folks that are dedicated, NO MATTER WHAT, to pushing the proper folding agenda along. It is an honor and pleasure to work with all of you in WHATEVER capacity I am capable, even if it were only to be to provide contest stats, and it's the overwhelmingly positive attitude that keeps me coming back, when work and the rest of my life allows. zophar All I'm getting bigadv wise is 8101's. They net around 90k ppd on my 5620's at 3.8Ghz. Wish I could run higher but my baord doesn't like going above 200 b-clk. I wish I had the cash to pick up some 5645's or better. But that's not going to happen for probably a couple years. Yeah, I hear you. Eventually, I won't have to pay out over a quarter of my income to mortgage and other bills, and I'll be able to dedicate some resources to a couple of folding BEASTS. Just keep on doing what you can! d
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 05:58:41
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zophar All I'm getting bigadv wise is 8101's. They net around 90k ppd on my 5620's at 3.8Ghz. Wish I could run higher but my baord doesn't like going above 200 b-clk. I wish I had the cash to pick up some 5645's or better. But that's not going to happen for probably a couple years. If you are running a 2P or 4P rig of at least 16 cores/threads, and using the "-bigadv" argument, the 8101 Bigadv is all that you will see these days. People on other teams have discovered that using the "-bigbeta" argument is allowing them to pull some of the other Bigadv WUs (6901, 6903, 6904) on their 2p/4P rigs. See this thread for info about the 8101s and what people are currently doing about that situation. http://hardforum.com/show...&highlight=bigbeta PS: 3.8Ghz on the Xeon 5620s is what most people find to be the OC sweet spot for those procs. I tried pushing my 5620s higher, but couldn't maintain Folding stability, so 3.8G is where they have remained.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 06:39:29
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zophar All I'm getting bigadv wise is 8101's. They net around 90k ppd on my 5620's at 3.8Ghz. Wish I could run higher but my baord doesn't like going above 200 b-clk. I wish I had the cash to pick up some 5645's or better. But that's not going to happen for probably a couple years.
If you are running a 2P or 4P rig of at least 16 cores/threads, and using the "-bigadv" argument, the 8101 Bigadv is all that you will see these days. People on other teams have discovered that using the "-bigbeta" argument is allowing them to pull some of the other Bigadv WUs (6901, 6903, 6904) on their 2p/4P rigs. See this thread for info about the 8101s and what people are currently doing about that situation. http://hardforum.com/show...&highlight=bigbeta
PS: 3.8Ghz on the Xeon 5620s is what most people find to be the OC sweet spot for those procs. I tried pushing my 5620s higher, but couldn't maintain Folding stability, so 3.8G is where they have remained.
They really do run happy at 3.8Ghz. The thing that I would be most worried about is making deadlines with some of the other units. Thanks for the link texinga. I'll give it a read and see if I can figure anything out from it. One quick question, and please excuse my lack of knowledge on bigadv. But would my SR-2 be capable of completing the 6901, 03, and 04's. I wouldn't want to do anything that would let me pull them If I can't complete them in the allotted time.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 06:51:27
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zophar One quick question, and please excuse my lack of knowledge on bigadv. But would my SR-2 be capable of completing the 6901, 03, and 04's. I wouldn't want to do anything that would let me pull them If I can't complete them in the allotted time. Oh yes, you can complete the 6901,03,04s well within time and that is because PG has not made any changes to those WUs at all. I'm processing all (3) of them on my 12-thread 980X and finishing all of them well ahead of preferred deadlines. Those (3) Wus are still the same Bigadv WUs that everyone was working before. From what I've read, it appears that PG won't spend any cycles reconstructing those WUs to the new 16P requirement. It looks like they will create new WUs (like the 8101) to fulfill that new 16P requirement. This is why I'm encouraging anyone that has a hexacore or greater to get back on the Bigadv band-wagon while we have them to process. So, unleash your beast Zophar!! PS: Forgot to mention for anyone else with a hexacore that is going after the Bigadvs, my 980X is OC'd to 4.0GHz (regarding finishing ahead of the "preferred" WU deadlines).
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 07:10:43
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Yeah zophar, those 8101 have by for the tightest deadlines. If you can make those, the others are a walk in the park. So unleash the Kraken
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 07:17:00
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Sweet. I'll look into it tonight when I get home. Thanks guys. I make the deadline for the 8101 by about 3 hours. Not alot of wiggle room there.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 09:32:03
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I say good show to [H], they're a worthy team for sure with a folding pedigree better than EVGA's I'd say... but as long as we're going to one day beat default I'll be OK. It's what keeps me going guys...
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 11:33:54
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I had been folding just SMP for about 45K PPD, but I have since fired up three GPUs and my numbers are up to about 70K PPD, don't see much beyond that without some serious cash investment on my end and that's not happening any time soon. Switching from 580s to 680 HCs has not helped the computer funds.  In any event, I really hate that the 8019/20 s were generating about 27K PPD on my 680 and now all I'm getting are 8009s for about 17K which is only 1K more than the 580. It really bites, especially with all of PG's talk of supporting the "cutting edge". Half of cores aren't even being used. In any event, they're folding along. I agree with most the things stated here, let's get back to our team and not worry about everything else. I've noticed a marked decline in the "help" people were getting, my fault as much as others. That being said, I'll try to troll the help forum more often in an effort to help others out. I'll also make sure to keep the cool folding badge so it will hopefully draw others in to the group. Fold on brothers/sisters.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 14:07:59
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Sleinous I have around 8 more days of downtime on my main rig before my production goes back up again, hang in there! I noted you've been down for alittle while. Are you building / rebuilding something?
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 14:33:00
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texinga Bigadvs (if you are running one of the Linux distros) are definitely still there today. I'm running a 6901 right now that I picked up yesterday afternoon on my 980X. My message to the Team is, any of you that have hexacores, please consider running Linux and go after the Bigadvs while we still have them. They have been available to us all along and we are missing the opportunity to boost EVGA's scores if people with hexas are still running standard SMPs. Also, and the other Teams know this, using the -bigbeta switch (with hexas) seems to be a bit more effective for snagging the current crop of Bigadvs (6901, 6903, 6904). Standard disclaimer: you will get no support from PG if you run -bigbeta and have an issue with a WU and are not member of the "beta team". But right now that risk is just about zero with these (3) Bigadv units.
To all of our Team, we are probably in for a bumpy ride before all is said and done. Unless something very radical happens, I believe we will be passed by [H] soon. When that happens, we will see who is really here for the Team long term. Hopefully, anyone that is here today is already in that camp. The #1 spot for Folding Teams can churn and change hands. Remain strong as a team because our day can return just as it is now happening for [H]. To me, this situation in some ways has raised my interest level. I love a good competition and now we really have one to sink our Folding teeth into. Let's respond to the challenge even if it takes us a couple years to realize (just like it has for [H]). Never say die and "sound off like you gotta pair"!!
Maybe we could get a the Linux / Ubuntu folks to build and EVGA Image for a bootable USB Thumb drive with the folding client all setup for example the EVGApes? Then could add a guide on how to change the config for personal IDs?
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 16:22:46
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bowlinra Been breaking in my AMD 48 core rig. 
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 16:31:46
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bowlinra Maybe we could get a the Linux / Ubuntu folks to build and EVGA Image for a bootable USB Thumb drive with the folding client all setup for example the EVGApes? Then could add a guide on how to change the config for personal IDs?
I like the idea of having a bootable USB image ready to go with just a small amount of setup to get going. And if it meant an increase in the ability of my machine to produce, I'd be all over it.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 17:30:06
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zophar bowlinra Maybe we could get a the Linux / Ubuntu folks to build and EVGA Image for a bootable USB Thumb drive with the folding client all setup for example the EVGApes? Then could add a guide on how to change the config for personal IDs? I like the idea of having a bootable USB image ready to go with just a small amount of setup to get going. And if it meant an increase in the ability of my machine to produce, I'd be all over it. I like the idea and creativity of making things easy for people. In my tests using a USB Thumb-drive for booting/running Linux and Crunching, it was a no-go for me. I could boot into Linux (Mint 12 was my distro) and run it off the Thumb-drive just fine, but doing the actual Crunching would always result in a hung application sooner or later. I gave up on the Thumb-drive method for Linux and went back to a hard-drive where I've had no problems. For Chimp Challenge and if the whole let's use a single name thing survives, I really like the idea of making things easier, especially for people that have never Folded. I still recall my initial impressions of reading this Folding forum and thinking "will I ever understand this stuff"? I had lots of time to answer that question, but it would have been a whole lot worse if I'd needed to do it in a hurry for a contest.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 21:19:10
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Horvat
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Horvat 5 servers folding for 600,000 ppd.
What are you running over there??
Server rack full of dual socket Xeons. Some are crunching and 2 more waiting to come on line, need a few more parts.
wanna race to something sometime? I run 3 servers with about that ppd
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/29 22:53:11
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bowlinra Sleinous I have around 8 more days of downtime on my main rig before my production goes back up again, hang in there! I note you've been down for alittle while. You re / building something?
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/30 04:04:42
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/30 05:19:03
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Horvat It shore is pretty, but can it fold? DeepPurple23 BEAutiful. But it looks like your missing something. By the way, take your time getting past me again. I don't want to give up the spot. I have the other waterblock but incorrect mounting hardware. Nope, right now it can't fold ;) Deeppurple; i'll let you hang on to your rank for now but I am mighty annoyed about losing that position ;) I reckon with the AMD dominant bigadv rigs we are getting pushed back as it seems to me that [H] has more of these type of systems than us. It's only a matter of time before a new core comes out for the 600 series cards, and this may shake things up again? Who knows but I find it exciting that we're constantly battling it out for 1st and 2nd position.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/30 06:02:46
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Sweeeeeet build Sleinous!!  Really like what you did with the colors too. This kind of stuff is good for the team and helps maintain/build interest. On the thought of our impact with a Folding client/core designed for the 600 series GPUs, I can only hope and think that would be way cool to see something come from it. I don't know if it will make a difference, but our day will come again if we stay the course as a team! Oh...PS: I snagged a 6904 today on my 980X! Haven't seen one of those for quite awhile. Knock-silicon, it will be worth ~373K in about 4 days and will finish a full day ahead of the preferred deadline.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/30 11:18:34
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texinga Oh...PS: I snagged a 6904 today on my 980X! Haven't seen one of those for quite awhile. Knock-silicon, it will be worth ~373K in about 4 days and will finish a full day ahead of the preferred deadline.
FYI, if you're not already doing this. reconfigure your client with -bigbeta -smp instead of -bigadv -smp. You should pull nothing but 6903 and 6904's. Little trick I was directed to over at the [H] forum. Love beatin em with their own tricks.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/30 13:34:05
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Horvat texinga Oh...PS: I snagged a 6904 today on my 980X! Haven't seen one of those for quite awhile. Knock-silicon, it will be worth ~373K in about 4 days and will finish a full day ahead of the preferred deadline. FYI, if you're not already doing this. reconfigure your client with -bigbeta -smp instead of -bigadv -smp. You should pull nothing but 6903 and 6904's. Little trick I was directed to over at the [H] forum. Love beatin em with their own tricks. Yep, I posted that very thing at the top of this page and have been using the -bigbeta argument for that very reason. I've typically been getting all 6903's with the occasional 6901 sprinkled-in. The 6904s have been pretty rare for me, but yesterday one popped-in. I actually prefer the 6903's because they take a day less to process. Never was high on having a 4-day Bigadv running in case something goes burp-in-the-night.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/30 13:38:20
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Does it need to be -bigbeta -smp? Or is it ok as -smp -bigbeta?
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/30 14:08:36
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zophar Does it need to be -bigbeta -smp? Or is it ok as -smp -bigbeta? The order doesn't matter and either method will will get you to the same place.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/30 20:22:17
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Sleinous WOW!!! I see... Love the colors.. Where you able buy a white case, or have to paint it? +1 for the level of detail on the cable runs.
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/30 20:25:32
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tanner2 Horvat bowlinra
Horvat 5 servers folding for 600,000 ppd. What are you running over there?? Server rack full of dual socket Xeons. Some are crunching and 2 more waiting to come on line, need a few more parts. wanna race to something sometime? I run 3 servers with about that ppd Don't be holding back.. I fully intend to knock you BOTH out of the Top 10. Did I mention >> I'm Bring It!!!
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Re:Team@evga within 90 days of being passed by [H]ardOCP
2012/05/31 09:27:08
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OK bowlinra, Have 6 servers now and just sold 1 of my Harleys so have the funds to buy the rest of the parts for 7th server. How does 1 million PPD sound? And then when I get the rest of the parts for my 8th server (which is a case, psu and memory), well...  Get em squirrel, unleash the armor piercing, high explosive, cyanide tipped rounds on em.
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