Gotta love that silicon lottery.

I guess you should of researched if going from sc to FTW is worth it.

Viking4k
If that's the case it's about to be in the new egg open box lottery because I'm not paying more and using more energy for less performance. 

Actually most pascal cards will run very similar and more power doesn't necessarily mean more performance (slicon lotto/locked voltage). IMO the FTW cards you paying for dual bios, more phases (which may play more of a role latter)  and nicer looking with RGB.

That's the silicon lotto for you :(

And this is why I gave up on SLI kids.  Get the best single card set-up you can, you'll have way fewer issues. 

Keep in mind since the FTW is clocked a little higher there's usually less headroom than say going from a reference card which you might get +150 out of.  But I get what you're saying and I'd be upset too if it can't reach the same speeds you already were accustomed to.  Could it be a boosting issue since it has a higher power target maybe it's just boosting a lot more causing instability.  Try enabling KBoost in Precision and see what your max clock is vs before on the SC.
 
For reference, my 1070 SC Black Edition gets +160 on the core and around +580 on the Micron memory.  
 
Post your Firestrike link so we can compare.

What im talking about is it is not worth going from a SC to FTW. The performance is not work the extra money. Since you said it does not perform as good that's why I said you sould of researched the performance difference instead of an impulse buy. If you researched it before you bought it you would of read that it does not matter with pascal cards if it had extra power.

Viking4k

LittleGuy
I guess you should of researched if going from sc to FTW is worth it.

Viking4k
If that's the case it's about to be in the new egg open box lottery because I'm not paying more and using more energy for less performance. 

What are you talking about. The FTW cost more and consumes more power because it performs better... If it had performed better it would be worth the money to me unfortunately one of the 2 cards is junk.

All of the EVGA chips comes from the same pile, and none of them have been binned. This means that the lowest-model 1070 is as likely to perform and overclock well as the highest model. With the ACX3 vanilla, SC, FTW, Classified... you aren't paying for higher performance chips, because all of them will out-perform the listed specs on the boxes of any of them, and they have to, because none of them have been sorted for performance. GPU-boost is going to take all of them beyond the speed listed on the box of the Classified model.
 
What people pay for in the higher-tier models are like dual BIOS (for overclocking), RGB lighting, more power phases (again, for overclocking), extra power deliver (I'm guessing it's just a psychological thing, since the 10XX series doesn't really need it. But it lets people feel they can overclock more), etc.
 
Raw, out of the box, all EVGA 10XX series cards are the same, in that their chips are all randomly taken from the same pile, and the difference in their performances come down to the silicon lottery.

Please do not use foul language on the evga forums. Thanks.
 
http://forums.evga.com/EV...erms-of-Use-m4682.aspx

delicieuxz
All of the EVGA chips comes from the same pile, and none of them have been binned. This means that the lowest-model 1070 is as likely to perform and overclock well as the highest model. With the ACX3 vanilla, SC, FTW, Classified... you aren't paying for higher performance chips, because all of them will out-perform the listed specs on the boxes of any of them, and they have to, because none of them have been sorted for performance. GPU-boost is going to take all of them beyond the speed listed on the box of the Classified model.
 
What people pay for in the higher-tier models are like dual BIOS (for overclocking), RGB lighting, more power phases (again, for overclocking), extra power deliver (I'm guessing it's just a psychological thing, since the 10XX series doesn't really need it. But it lets people feel they can overclock more), etc.
 
Raw, out of the box, all EVGA 10XX series cards are the same, in that their chips are all randomly taken from the same pile, and the difference in their performances come down to the silicon lottery.

Not exactly. The do 'bin' SC/FTW/Classified in the sense that they are tested to run stable and are warrantied to run at the higher clocks. Beyond that, the lottery applies. You can get a dud that won't over clock at all or, you get lucky.  But it's also true that 'vanilla' GPU are not speed binned and you then are subject to the lottery where you can get a dud or a 'golden' sample.