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 http://bgr.com/2016/10/06/iphone-7-sales-banned-by-some-companies/ "Patriotism is a big deal in China, and some companies feel that buying a smartphone from a foreign company — specifically Apple — is not patriotic. As a result, they’ve issued warnings to employees: Buy an iPhone 7 and you’ll be fired." Wake up West World and think again... They flooded market with their products, destroy many companies with cheaper, shorter, faster and now even try to destroy other West companies. Young generations only help them. Removed Political reference  PERFECT EXAMPLE OF VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND SITUATION WHEN NO ONE CARE FOR THEM.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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Patriotism? More like masked greed...
Hate it or love it. We wouldn't have most of the affordable items we take for granted if it wasn't for Asia. Food for thought?
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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I don't agree with the reasoning but that Chinese company doesn't want its employees blowing several months of pay on an iPhone.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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When you have the Chinese government always watching you on their terf, they pretty much own you. Rights in China or kind of non-existent.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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Patriotism? More like masked greed...
Hate it or love it. We wouldn't have most of the affordable items we take for granted if it wasn't for Asia. Food for thought?
"Food for thought"... The Chinese government will gladly let Americans buy things that are made in China to help their economy... There's your "food for thought." Now, what about our economy? Why can't those phones be made in the U.S.A? Those answers will only come from owners and/or employers.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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Patriotism? More like masked greed...
Hate it or love it. We wouldn't have most of the affordable items we take for granted if it wasn't for Asia. Food for thought?
"Food for thought"... The Chinese government will gladly let Americans buy things that are made in China to help their economy...Now, what about our economy? Why can't those phones be made in the U.S.A? Those answers will only come from owners and/or employers.
I didn't say that I agreed, I just stated fact. I'm no economist but if you remove all the rhetoric of commerce etc, it can be boiled down to human greed and the many variances of it, plain and simple. Again hate it or love it, we all play a part in it..
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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Patriotism? More like masked greed...
Hate it or love it. We wouldn't have most of the affordable items we take for granted if it wasn't for Asia. Food for thought?
"Food for thought"... The Chinese government will gladly let Americans buy things that are made in China to help their economy...Now, what about our economy? Why can't those phones be made in the U.S.A? Those answers will only come from owners and/or employers.
I didn't say that I agreed, I just stated fact. I'm no economist but if you remove all the rhetoric of commerce etc, it can be boiled down to human greed and the many variances of it, plain and simple. Again hate it or love it, we all play a part in it..
Sorry didn't mean to be so sarcastic (I know there was a lot in there). I'm not really an economist either, just see a lot of truth there of what I mentioned. Those phones should be made in America, don't you agree? But back on point, The way the Chinese government is (corruption, forced labor, force persuasion/lol), I wouldn't be surprised if they told the companies to put that.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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Patriotism? More like masked greed...
Hate it or love it. We wouldn't have most of the affordable items we take for granted if it wasn't for Asia. Food for thought?
"Food for thought"... The Chinese government will gladly let Americans buy things that are made in China to help their economy...Now, what about our economy? Why can't those phones be made in the U.S.A? Those answers will only come from owners and/or employers.
I didn't say that I agreed, I just stated fact. I'm no economist but if you remove all the rhetoric of commerce etc, it can be boiled down to human greed and the many variances of it, plain and simple. Again hate it or love it, we all play a part in it..
Sorry didn't mean to be so sarcastic (I know there was a lot in there). I'm not really an economist either, just see a lot of truth there of what I mentioned. Those phones should be made in America, don't you agree? But back on point, The way the Chinese government is (corruption, forced labor, force persuasion/lol), I wouldn't be surprised if they told the companies to put that.
Your ok, didn't take it as sarcasm, I too apologise for my candid comments. I tend to write without a filter. Edit: Agree yes, will it happen no. Is it monetarily practical to compete with Asian labour costs, no, that's the big issue.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 07:30:34
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We need an age Limit here in North America, 26 Years old seems to be a good age Limit to buy one I think.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 09:00:00
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iPhone is a Chinese built phone. Donno what they're on about? This isn't about buying a foreign phone. This is about buying competition's phone.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 11:24:44
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They are probably angry because so powerful A10 processor in iPhone 7. Almost twice stronger than in iPhone 6s... This is new Geekbench 4.0.1.  iPhone 7 is without doubt best cell phone and better to hide him from company than investing in something else. Surfing on net and looking video clips with iPhone 7 Plus and A10 is best experience on market with similar devices.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 11:32:01
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Sounds like the Japanese.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 11:35:08
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I don't know but only I can say Smart people now read news and good stuff about iPhone features and wait just in case to avoid some problem as with Galaxy Note 7 battery and than they will decide between iPhone 7 and 7s or 7 Plus/7s Plus.
Improvements are always too good to be ignored.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 13:51:08
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It is not a violation of human rights. Employers have the right to provide conditions of employment. If they don't want their employees to buy an iPhone 7 for any reason, they have every right to make that a condition of employment. Similarly, employees have the right to choose where they want to be employed. If the employee wants to be employed and own an iPhone 7, they have the right to go find another job where an iPhone 7 is not banned. I am subject to many somewhat uncomfortable conditions of employment due to my line of work and my employer's decisions. I don't consider it a violation of my rights. I consider it my choice to work where I work irrespective of the conditions of employment. Your logic is so creepy, new age, and touchy feely. It gives me the chills. stalinx20
The way the Chinese government is (corruption, forced labor, force persuasion/lol), ...
Forced labor for prisoners is only a very small percentage of the Chinese labor force. Chinese forced labor has become greatly exaggerated by the rest of the world because it is much more interesting to discuss than the rest of the willing Chinese labor force. In terms of percentage of total population, how many US prisoners do you think are similarly "forced" to clean roadsides, stamp license plates, and help at wildfire, flooding, or other natural disasters? Many are not forced but instead prefer to at least go and do something which gives them purpose instead of sitting in a cell. As far as general work conditions are concerned, that is kind of a different subject. Exposure to unsafe conditions is more of a overall organizational issue and does not really apply to the subject of whether or not a worker should be allowed to own an iPhone 7.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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Yes it's violation if they ban only specific brand of cell phone because his origin. They didn't prohibit cell phones because cancer or because in their office is restricted all cell phones because some specific reason, they prohibit only one brand of cell phone because race who made them. That mean because I have company I could ban all people who have black people in family or Americans, or Germans or etc because that's rule of my company and no reason to complains Black people could freely to search other company, or White or Latino. It's obvious they didn't ban iPhone 7 because ugly anthena or bad camera, they ban because specific race made them and there are many reason to believe that they would not prohibited Russian. That's racial discrimination.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 14:24:33
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Yes it's violation if they ban only specific brand of cell phone because his origin.
NO it is NOT a violation. Owning an iPhone 7 is NOT a right. Kids these days... Really?!? Life is a series of choices. EVERY employer has the ability and RIGHT to control their workforce in ways which would otherwise be frowned upon in other parts of society. Why does the employer have such right? Because the employer's labor force has the choice to determine who they want to work for and decide for themselves if the employer's restrictions are acceptable or unacceptable. I choose to work for an employer which requires that I am free from drug or alcohol abuse, and I choose to be randomly selected to have my urine or breath analyzed, and I choose to have my fingerprints taken periodically, and I choose to have a background check performed on me periodically, and so forth, because despite those conditions of employment, I want to work for my employer. If my employer said that I could not own a particular cell phone or could not dress a certain way or could not have a certain haircut, I would decide whether or not I want to be subjected to those rules. It would be my employer's right to subject me to such a decision and it would be my right to decide whether or not I wanted to comply or find employment elsewhere. How is not being allowed to own an iPhone 7 any more of a violation than being told that you need to wear a certain uniform?
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 14:29:27
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Because employer have such rights, company could make some rule but such things like this not.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 14:31:14
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Because employer have such rights, company could make some rule but such things like this not.
I am sorry to tell you that the employer DOES have the right to make an iPhone 7 rule as well. If you work for me, you must dress a certain way, you must have a certain haircut, and you must not own an iPhone 7. That is perfectly acceptable.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 14:32:50
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The only thing an employer can't violate is discrimination based on Race, Sex, Religion, etc. Doesn't say anything about cell phones. So the company has the right to do what they want in that iPhone situation.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 14:38:12
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I tell you that have no right to order to people to avoid iPhone 7. Any court will say that. If they didn't prohibited cell phones specific employers have right to choose any cell phone they like. That would be decision of court because this could go further to far if someone could stop you to buy specific brand of phone. Good advocate easy could explain that this is only because that phone is from USA and force them to pay even bigger charge than only for violation rights of employers if they pay with own money cell phone they could buy any cell phone. They should charge station because interfere in their life and dictate them what can't buy with own money. They could order them to hold helmet and uniform and smoke out of office and that's it. Tomorrow everyone will need to buy skirts because company say that, that's not true. They could stop them to hold any cell phone or nothing. But because job is specific and cell phones are probably welcomed than this peace of paper is own bigger bs. Take it or leave it, not prohibition because place of origin. This is pure prohibition because place of origin and race who made that where one company try to make favor to other company with completely other purpose, only because they are from same countries. Imagine if all companies try to do that and cell phones companies start to pay to other companies to prohibited cell phones by their competitions, WOW you will easy start pure anarchy with your view. And that would easy spread on dozen other products and completely destroy free international market. Imagine company with 10.000 employer ban Samsung phone, I could bet Apple would pay a lot every year for that. And later shoes and watches, .. imagine that He have Nike!!! Burn him, foreign mercenaries, destroy our China, spy from USA have Nike, quisling work for CIA and NSA, real patriots need to have 5$ shoes. And later food and CHAOS because OF YOU. NO, THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED INSTANTLY AND THIS POOR PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT IPHONE 7 SHOULD GET PAYMENT TO THE LIFE ONLY TO SIT AND WORK NOTHING BECAUSE OF THIS. 
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 15:07:49
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But one more thing is interesting... Someone should checked maybe chiefs get some privileges for them and their families by some other cell phone company to stop employers to buy Apple products. If other companies done same for many things I can bet their chiefs could get cell phones for free, new models constantly, even payment buy other companies as Samsung, HTC, Sony, etc...Example whole first team and directors of any company with 1000+ people will get free cell phones only if prohibit specif brand for their employers. That's madness, corruption and chaos, everything only not free and fair market where best company dominate. Putin easy could cause to Samsung sell 10% more phones one year or some other company and ban best cell phones because specific reason for almost 200.000.000 people.
If international court allow him because that's his country and no one say that people can choose iPhone, I didn't saw in bible nothing about iPhone.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/09 16:46:56
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I tell you that have no right to order to people to avoid iPhone 7. Any court will say that.
Ha! Go take it to the court.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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You would bankrupt after that. Someone to tell you what to buy for own money, maybe but in old Egypt when Pharaohs posses slaves. People wait such chances to companies buy them new car for penalty. For less than 6 months everything would be over and judge would ask you only Do you look and underpants brand of employers and before you give answer Bang 100.000$. I would ask to pay and extra for stress because employer lose nerves with other cell phone in mean time because he was not use on such system and lost valuable time and lose important information because instability of Android even send pictures of living room half burned because battery. Special know when every day from different sides arrive information of self destruction from Galaxy Note 7... And employer would tell that he avoided years such phones until you force them to change what he used. And when you fall in such game you never could prove different because you force employer on something he didn't want. That's same as doctors need to check twice because if he make little mistake later patient could connect that with terrible things and no any way to prove that doctors behavior and decision didn't result that even if doctor is not guilty for anything more. Than you would pay for emotional problems and even restoration of room burned by non Apple device. This is only one more evidence what evil people do to separate customers from their dear little iPhone... But they will not success. When Samsung couldn't beat Apple than start campaign to force people to hide Apple and shame own device because they didn't know what to do any more to decrease popularity of iPhone. But iPhone customers should be proud. Apple iPhone is Only One. It's bad because their computers are not for fun and PC is far better but for cell phone iPhone is exactly what smart and educated people need. When I imagine some student from Oxford or Cambridge I always have iPhone or Apple in head. Even there no such rules and can't even to think to ask from people specific brands of clothes or cell phones and one fire department from China will demand from their "slaves" what to pay and what to eat and what to love.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/10 01:26:42
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As said here, they can force you to wear specific clothes at work. This thing is the same. You can always buy yourself an iPhone 7 and have it at your home the same way as you have "not working clothing" at your home, and use your iPhone at NOT WORKING hours as you do with your personal clothes.
They only can force you to follow some rules in "working hours", not in your personal life.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/10 06:57:30
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Vladd lots of companies have rules, I worked for one previously that if you brought your phone into work, it must be an Android, with the companies management software installed, otherwise it wasn't allowed inside the secure area, aka inside the gate.
This is also China, but in the western world, discrimination is.
Denying someone employment based upon
Realigion
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How you dress, what phone you use, your appearance, your voice, the color of your hair. Anything that is considered a personal choice outside of your faith is not protected from discrimination.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
2016/10/10 07:26:47
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Vladd lots of companies have rules, I worked for one previously that if you brought your phone into work, it must be an Android, with the companies management software installed, otherwise it wasn't allowed inside the secure area, aka inside the gate.
This is also China, but in the western world, discrimination is.
Denying someone employment based upon
Realigion
Race
Sex
Disability
Creed
Things not protected
How you dress, what phone you use, your appearance, your voice, the color of your hair. Anything that is considered a personal choice outside of your faith is not protected from discrimination.
I think what vlad is on about is off work time. The chinese company is stating you can not have a iphone 7 at all. Not at work or home. You can not purchase it. It is different if a company says "you cant have a iphone 7 at work." I am sure apple workers cant have an android at work. Then as said before this is china we are discussing. The country that found no human right violation in forced organ "donations".
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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Most "rights" are to protect you from the government. They have very little to do with protecting you from other individuals or companies. Just because something sounds reasonable and right doesn't mean it's true. Things like freedom of speech do not extend to the workplace.
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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Vladd lots of companies have rules, I worked for one previously that if you brought your phone into work, it must be an Android, with the companies management software installed, otherwise it wasn't allowed inside the secure area, aka inside the gate.
This is also China, but in the western world, discrimination is.
Denying someone employment based upon
Realigion
Race
Sex
Disability
Creed
Things not protected
How you dress, what phone you use, your appearance, your voice, the color of your hair. Anything that is considered a personal choice outside of your faith is not protected from discrimination.
I think what vlad is on about is off work time. The chinese company is stating you can not have a iphone 7 at all. Not at work or home. You can not purchase it.
First, you would have to argue whether or not the company even has a way of knowing that you have an iPhone 7 at home. But, that argument aside, companies may be able to restrict what you do when you are not at work. Some companies restrict what you are able to do or how you represent yourself when away from work. Those companies can and do fire employees for being lewd, vulgar, or not conducting themselves in a professional way when in public, or can and do restrict the use of drugs or alcohol when off the job either in totality or within a number of hours of work, or may punish or terminate an employee for voicing controversial beliefs to the media or posting controversial things on social media when not at work, or may fire an employee for defaming their employer or defaming an advertiser when among friends or with the public while not at work, etc., etc.. Unfortunately, depending on your employer and your contract with your employer, the employer may be able to restrict what you do when you are away from work. Whether they have a way to find out about your actions is another thing. The point is, when you choose to enter a contract, you are bound by that contract until the contract has either expired, both parties have agreed to amend or end the contract, or one of the parties has breached the contract. Employment can often be part of a contract. The premise is that some companies are not allowing employees to own iPhone 7 phones. And then the claim is made that this must be illegal or must be some sort of violation. The problem is that we have to assume that since only certain companies are adopting this policy, that in all probability they must have legal authority to adopt such a policy under their specific employee contracts or labor laws. Thus, we have to assume that this cannot possibly be illegal nor is a violation of any human right. To assume that it is illegal or is a violation would require proof which has not been furnished. Without proof, I would have to say "you are probably wrong. Have a good day!".
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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I walk into Costco and see sports team clothing made in china
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Re: Some companies are threatening to fire workers who buy an iPhone 7
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In a way this sounds like boycotting, just like the Unions boycotted Natural Ovens. I get it. So, let them boycott. Why Isn't America boycotting things made in China? Oh that's right, because we wouldn't be able to survive... 
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