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Some coil whine on my GTX 970?

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2014/09/30 10:30:27 (permalink)
Hey buddys,
 
I got today my new EVGA GTX 970 ACX (1.0) and in my view, there is some coil whine on this card...
 
I made a video for this:
 
The Coil whine starts always under Stress like Furmark or a HD game.
 
Maybe you can help me to decide how to handle this.
 
Here is a Screenshot of Precision X16

 
I can offer more information if you need it.
 
Thanks for some help!
 
 
 
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    goldenegg
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/09/30 10:48:56 (permalink)
    Open an RMA to get a replacement card.  Coil whine isn't normal.
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/09/30 18:08:57 (permalink)
    Keep RMA'ing until you get a card that is acceptable to you. Since it's under 30 days, I would recommend going through Newegg or Amazon first however (assuming you bought it from them), you can usually get it resolved faster. Ask for a "Prepaid Label" if you want free shipping.
     
    You can also choose one of the competing cards, they are known to have less coil whine.
     
    Klonky
    Hey buddys,
     
    I got today my new EVGA GTX 970 ACX (1.0) and in my view, there is some coil whine on this card...
     
    I made a video for this:
     
    The Coil whine starts always under Stress like Furmark or a HD game.
     
    Maybe you can help me to decide how to handle this.
     
    Here is a Screenshot of Precision X16

     
    I can offer more information if you need it.
     
    Thanks for some help!
     
     
     




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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 03:09:44 (permalink)
    gizmo88
    Keep RMA'ing until you get a card that is acceptable to you. Since it's under 30 days, I would recommend going through Newegg or Amazon first however (assuming you bought it from them), you can usually get it resolved faster. Ask for a "Prepaid Label" if you want free shipping.
     
    You can also choose one of the competing cards, they are known to have less coil whine.


    Exactly...

    It seems the quality of EVGA's GTX 970 SC ACX1/ACX2 has much left to desire for.


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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 09:07:47 (permalink)
    If you continue to have coil whine with replacement cards under stress/load, check your fps. If it's higher than your monitor's refresh rate, it can cause coil whine as well as higher temps. Apply vsync if you can to whatever program you're running and it should go away.
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 09:09:12 (permalink)
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    If you continue to have coil whine with replacement cards under stress/load, check your fps. If it's higher than your monitor's refresh rate, it can cause coil whine as well as higher temps. Apply vsync if you can to whatever program you're running and it should go away.




    Im sorry but thats not acceptable. Vsync causes horrible input lag and no gamer will tolerate that.
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 09:35:25 (permalink)
    kasumiIm sorry but thats not acceptable. Vsync causes horrible input lag and no gamer will tolerate that.

     
    If I may, in my experience with every game I have played, I have never experienced any input lag with vsync enabled. But what I have experienced is a sharp increase in temperature and faint coil whine when my framerate is not synchronized with my refresh rate. Under what circumstances have you experienced this input lag?
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 09:38:15 (permalink)
    Its a very well known issue https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1doh5l/
     
    You can find info about it all over the internet. I'll never enable vsync.
    post edited by kasumi - 2014/10/01 09:40:22
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 09:44:53 (permalink)
    Coil whine is not caused by low quality material, it's just a behavior of a particular component when pushed.  My current Gigabyte HD 7950 WF3 as coil whine even though it uses top tier quality components.  Every pièces of hardware is bound to have some behavior like that, it's just a matter of personal tolerence of these behaviors.
     
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 10:02:17 (permalink)
    Mine also has this coil whine. I don't know if it's unbearable, as it's a pretty light noise, but it certainly leaves much to be desired about EVGA quality. A shame. I won't buy en EVGA product again.
     
    I can't even send the card on RMA as I don't live in the U.S., and I'm sure EVGA is going to send me another coilwhiney card. So, it's not even worth it but I'm stuck with this expensive coil whine. 
    post edited by El Yor - 2014/10/01 10:08:33
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 10:10:41 (permalink)
    If vsync is causing input lag, simply try a frame limiter, like the one used in many overclocking programs like Precision or Afterburner. It's been my experience, however, that having framerates above 60 causes glitches and input craziness in some games. But maybe we're getting off topic...
     
    There's a lot of good advice here. I would try using vsync or a frame limiter before you RMA to see if that helps. If it doesn't, and no other suggestion helps, go ahead and RMA. Coil whine will always exist, but it shouldn't be distractingly noticeable. I didn't even know it happened until I read about it. I hope we've helped your situation.
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 10:22:40 (permalink)
    I had mine RMA'd on monday due to this, and one of the fans making a grinding sound. 
     
    I just wanted to say, i also tried using vsync. It changed the tone of the coil whine to a lower pitch but did not cut it out at all. I had mine RMA'd cause im not sure what exactly is doing it, but I didn't want my card to fail after a few weeks to months. 
    post edited by sir574 - 2014/10/01 10:25:07
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/01 10:31:35 (permalink)
    There's also reports of coil whine on the ASUS and the fan speed on the MSI where one fan will keep running high while the other stops on idle.
    That's why I cant wait to see how my 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (ACX 1.5...) will do in this sad, sad world :P

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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/19 13:56:10 (permalink)
    As a 970 owner as well I am disappointed in not seeing EVGA step up in this thread to address the issue.
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/19 23:30:09 (permalink)
    I have the same card and am having issues with the fans being very loud at idle. I have tried to edit the fan curve in EVGA Precision 16 and am having rather poor results. The fan will only idle at 1200 RPM at its lowest setting and does not ever turn off, even when called for in custom fan curves.
     
    What do you guys recommend?
     
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    I'm not being a sound snob but this is so much louder than other Nvidia cards I have run. There must be something I can do, right?
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/20 04:48:38 (permalink)
    Coil whine, fannoise, radiating electronics...
    Seems like the build quality went downhill a lot. I have Light coil whine that is still ok but the fan even at 29% is produciing a permanent rattle.
    Since the Maxwell chips seem more efficient the electronics and heat sinks can be much more lousy so in the end the Maxwell uses a needless amount of power and produces noise when maxed out for profit.
    All evga cards before were inducing noise into my soundcard. A 660Ti and 670 created different kinds of hum when pushed inducing garbage over air into the soundcard.
    My brand new GTX970 is MUCH WORSE. Even when browsing the net and only some slight graphics moving i hear different kind of noise in headphones. No other card i had did this so loud.
    This all hints to a real junk and cheapish selection of parts or bad layout.

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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/20 06:37:31 (permalink)
    Anyone here giving their NEW Cards a Burn-In Period?
    Run Valley for a 24 to 48 hours and then check for Coil Whine and Fan Noise issues.

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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/20 07:06:43 (permalink)
    Does it happen in games too? I installed my old 680 FTW today and I noticed there is some coil whine from it too. I own this cards for two years and never knew about it. It is pretty much the same. Only happening in firestrike but not in games.
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/20 11:18:24 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    Anyone here giving their NEW Cards a Burn-In Period?
    Run Valley for a 24 to 48 hours and then check for Coil Whine and Fan Noise issues.




    I tried it but for 1 hour lol...didn't do much.
    I'll try to run it on 24 hours...maybe start it tonight before bed and let it run till the next evening...but I won't be home and I don't like letting the card run on Valley with me away...
     
    For those who will do this I recommend manually setting your fans to 80%+ to be sure the card stays cool.

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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/20 22:07:30 (permalink)
    pokuly
    All evga cards before were inducing noise into my soundcard. A 660Ti and 670 created different kinds of hum when pushed inducing garbage over air into the soundcard.
    My brand new GTX970 is MUCH WORSE. Even when browsing the net and only some slight graphics moving i hear different kind of noise in headphones. No other card i had did this so loud.



    Sounds like a bad mobo! (possibly a busted PSU or poorly wired case, but less likely)
    Most likely you're using integrated sound on your mobo and it just happens to not have powerline filtering installed on the amp. It's got nothing to do with evga/msi/asus, rather motherboard issues with poor audio design. I had a similar issue with the front headphone jack on one of my cases, if you plugged in USB3.0 you got a high pitched hum, which was solved by switching the USB header.

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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/21 03:42:52 (permalink)
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    Sounds like a bad mobo! (possibly a busted PSU or poorly wired case, but less likely)
    Most likely you're using integrated sound on your mobo and it just happens to not have powerline filtering installed on the amp. It's got nothing to do with evga/msi/asus, rather motherboard issues with poor audio design. I had a similar issue with the front headphone jack on one of my cases, if you plugged in USB3.0 you got a high pitched hum, which was solved by switching the USB header.

    No Amp, no integrated onboard, no frontpanel, no wires so i guess it comes thru the air being near to it. My X-Fi is in the only PCI slot i can use and that is unfortunately near the 1st PCie 3.0 slot. The old X-Fi is not shielded at all. I guess it is time to get myself a new soundcard for PCIe to solve this once and for all. My GTX670 was nearly perfectly silent. AFAIK it used the Nvidia reference design.
    Besides that the noise is not that obvious as you may think. It is very low and only to hear with headphones.

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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/21 03:58:41 (permalink)
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    The old X-Fi is not shielded at all. I guess it is time to get myself a new soundcard for PCIe to solve this once and for all. My GTX670 was nearly perfectly silent. AFAIK it used the Nvidia reference design.
    Besides that the noise is not that obvious as you may think. It is very low and only to hear with headphones.



    Still possible the issue is power related, but it could very well be EMF. You could always try wrapping the thing in copper chicken wire, but other than looking pretty badass I don't think it would help much!
     
    If your case has a secondary vertical slot, you could try a pci extender, but doesn't sound like you do.

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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/10/21 04:21:38 (permalink)
    Guys, coil whine is caused by the vibrating of loosely wound copper wire around the coils ferrite core. Transformers can do this too. Many times you will see that theres a high temp glue blot, varnish etc... that's suppose to help with this. The harmonic frequency relationship with certain other components, like psu's for example, can also make this happen under certain loads and conditons. Some times running the card hard and hot for a good period and then cooling it will let the metals expand and contract enough to either reduce or eliminate the noise. Better quality coils are suppose to be wound tighter to eliminate the chance that this happens but it still can. Also, people over a certain age wont be able to hear some whine frequencies too. I wanna say its over 25 years old but I could be wrong on that.

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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2014/11/14 05:00:36 (permalink)
    Having The Same Problem in Games Bad High Pitch Whine Sound. EVGA GTX 970 ACX 2.0
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2015/01/31 07:03:12 (permalink)
    Same, just finished a build for a customer and the 970GTX FTW version had some pretty nasty coil whine/ squealing.
    Here's a interesting thread on the matter-
    http://linustechtips.com/...980-coil-whine-thread/
    Looks like about 45% of EVGA's 970's have coil whine out of the box......that's pretty bad when you pay almost $400 for a gpu..... and it sounds worse than my girlfriend on the rag....
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    Re: Some coil whine on my GTX 970? 2015/01/31 07:25:20 (permalink)
    This is an old thread. When you have an issue please start a new thread unless the thread you wish to post into is a few weeks old.

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