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Ok so I'm on unemployment, this job will pay 15hr, my min threshold to refuse a job is 17.37hr. Now its working on an assembly line replacing computer parts for refurbishing HP's. I will sit all day replacing parts, nothing really technical, and be treated like a criminal, aka I can't bring in my phone, I have to bring lunch to work and it must be in a clear plastic bag, aka I can't bring my preferred TV dinners, nor leave during my lunch break, it violates policy. If I wish to use my phone I may go out to my car during lunch only, breaks I am not allowed to, and then I may talk on the phone. I also am required to submit to a search coming and going everyday. I've got to say this type of job while it is technically IT related, really seems more suited for someone with zero skill. What do yall think should I take this, or hold out for a position that actually fits my resume and skills, aka Jr Sys Admin, Desktop Specialists, Help Desk LVL II, or Migration Specialist. 
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/01 23:56:57 (permalink)
    Crazy job description. Tell them that you want $20/hour. IF they can't meet that, too bad for them.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 00:14:33 (permalink)
    Kinda how amazon is, minus the clear plastic bag, the not able to use cell-phone on breaks, and the not able to leave rule. Pretty much eliminate all the bad and it's amazon. And Amazon pays the same o.o.
     
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 05:33:48 (permalink)
    Are you paid for the breaks? If so that is company time and they should be able to make those rules as they please...

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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 06:18:32 (permalink)
    I am thinking you are on the government cheese, get off the cheese and take the job.  Kinda sad that anyone living off the system would turn down a job because it is not the perfect job they are looking for.  Keep looking for a better job while you are working.
    Too many people these days living off the rest of us while they look for that job they feel they are especially trained for or entitled to.  I think if you are offered a job and turn it down your benefits need to be terminated.

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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 07:27:51 (permalink)
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    I am thinking you are on the government cheese, get off the cheese and take the job.  Kinda sad that anyone living off the system would turn down a job because it is not the perfect job they are looking for.  Keep looking for a better job while you are working.
    Too many people these days living off the rest of us while they look for that job they feel they are especially trained for or entitled to.  I think if you are offered a job and turn it down your benefits need to be terminated.




    incorrect, its unemployment, its something you work for. The state law is very clear I can turn down any job that does not pay close to my previous, which was 43,000yr. by their metric that is 17.37hr, below that I'm not obligated to take it. You earn unemployment benefits by working, and my previous employer did not file against my claim, and they are the ones paying my unemployment, not the tax payer, these are not extended benefits. I'm just really debating taking this job, where my skills are meaningless.
     
    As for paid for breaks, yes I would be, but I'm used to being treated like a professional not like a minimum wage factory worker. To be totally honest I haven't had set breaks or lunch times in 4 years now, I have been selecting the times that work best for me personally, and its not a problem as long as my work is done. This job really isn't my type of job, but at the same time, my girl really wants me back to work.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 08:29:12 (permalink)
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    Ok so I'm on unemployment, this job will pay 15hr, my min threshold to refuse a job is 17.37hr. Now its working on an assembly line replacing computer parts for refurbishing HP's. I will sit all day replacing parts, nothing really technical, and be treated like a criminal, aka I can't bring in my phone, I have to bring lunch to work and it must be in a clear plastic bag, aka I can't bring my preferred TV dinners, nor leave during my lunch break, it violates policy. If I wish to use my phone I may go out to my car during lunch only, breaks I am not allowed to, and then I may talk on the phone. I also am required to submit to a search coming and going everyday. I've got to say this type of job while it is technically IT related, really seems more suited for someone with zero skill. What do yall think should I take this, or hold out for a position that actually fits my resume and skills, aka Jr Sys Admin, Desktop Specialists, Help Desk LVL II, or Migration Specialist. 


    If you cannot leave during your Lunch Break then how can go out to your car during lunch?
    If breaks are "I am not allowed then" how may you talk on the phone?
     
    In my last work place only One Way Pagers where allowed.
    No Cell Phones or Two-Way Radios where allowed and would get you fired for having them inside the Workplace.
    You had to Badge in and out of the Building but you were free to use your phone outside the building and go wherever you want for your Lunch Hour. We has somewhat of a good Cafeteria and you have to leave our building to go to it.
     
    While you are at work you do not belong on your Personal Phone or Answering your Personal Phone, you are at Work not at Home or in a Bar or your car.
    A Random search is not uncommon now a days.
    You must not be a smoker or you would have made a comment on it as well.
    You could not Smoke on Company Property that includes inside your Car while on Company Property this includes Parking Lots.
     
    Don't get me wrong we need new young workers in the market today, someone needs to start replacing all them Baby Boomers over the next few Years. All you need to do is come up with Higher Work Ethics for yourself and you will be fine.
     
    A good starting Point; Refrains From Gossip
     
    When you have a good work ethic, you are dedicated to job that you deem valuable. You hold yourself to high standards of responsibility. You also keep yourself accountable for getting work done right and on time, and for making good business decisions that help people and companies succeed. Having a solid work ethic means you understand that productivity, organizational skills, being reliable and possessing good character are all attributes that successful people share.

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    Stealing personal property, sabotaging a coworker's client presentation, or taking someone's idea and making it your own are all ways that dishonesty creeps into the workplace. Employees with strong ethics refrain from lying or cheating to make others look bad in the hopes of making themselves appear smarter. Instead, they take responsibility for mistakes, own up to failures and keep the lines of communication open with everyone involved. 

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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 09:27:30 (permalink)
    Does the OP think that perhaps there's a correlation between this post and his previous "college degrees are worthless" thread? Just curious if you're still under the impression that a degree gets you nothing but "debt and hand holding".

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    (A degree) is still worthless, no matter what market it is...

    A collage degree means your good at wasting thousands of dollars, nothing else...

    Collage is simply a way to prove you don't have the attention span to learn something independently and require someone to hold your hand.


    Just saying.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 09:57:28 (permalink)
    Wow, reading the requirements for these jobs is terrible.  Searches, clear plastic lunch bags, no phones.  Sounds like hell to me.  I wouldn't take the job.  It doesn't meet your previous and I think you would hate it.
     
    Maybe go back to school and get a trade and become your own boss, or at least have a career instead of a job.
     
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 10:14:19 (permalink)
    Dress it up and word it however you want, bottom line is you are pulling a check while doing nothing in return.  Maybe with your particular attitude and skillset you are setting your goals too high.  You are only worth what the current market is willing to pay and based on your last thread it seems you also do not have a very good attitude.
     
    Take the job get back in the work force, then start looking for that better job.  Prospective employers would much rather see someone who is under employed and working their butt off than someone who is just laying on the couch waiting for that great job to find them.
     
    Or just keep milking the system I am sure "your type" of job will come along.

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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 10:14:57 (permalink)
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    Does the OP think that perhaps there's a correlation between this post and his previous "college degrees are worthless" thread? Just curious if you're still under the impression that a degree gets you nothing but "debt and hand holding".

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    (A degree) is still worthless, no matter what market it is...

    A collage degree means your good at wasting thousands of dollars, nothing else...

    Collage is simply a way to prove you don't have the attention span to learn something independently and require someone to hold your hand.


    Just saying.



    haha funny, no this is simply the slow time for IT contractors its a very well known down time for them. This type of job is not the type of job I'd normally even consider, if it was any other time of year I'd have told them no.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 10:21:39 (permalink)
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    Ok so I'm on unemployment, this job will pay 15hr, my min threshold to refuse a job is 17.37hr. Now its working on an assembly line replacing computer parts for refurbishing HP's. I will sit all day replacing parts, nothing really technical, and be treated like a criminal, aka I can't bring in my phone, I have to bring lunch to work and it must be in a clear plastic bag, aka I can't bring my preferred TV dinners, nor leave during my lunch break, it violates policy. If I wish to use my phone I may go out to my car during lunch only, breaks I am not allowed to, and then I may talk on the phone. I also am required to submit to a search coming and going everyday. I've got to say this type of job while it is technically IT related, really seems more suited for someone with zero skill. What do yall think should I take this, or hold out for a position that actually fits my resume and skills, aka Jr Sys Admin, Desktop Specialists, Help Desk LVL II, or Migration Specialist. 


    If you cannot leave during your Lunch Break then how can go out to your car during lunch?
    If breaks are "I am not allowed then" how may you talk on the phone?
     
    In my last work place only One Way Pagers where allowed.
    No Cell Phones or Two-Way Radios where allowed and would get you fired for having them inside the Workplace.
    You had to Badge in and out of the Building but you were free to use your phone outside the building and go wherever you want for your Lunch Hour. We has somewhat of a good Cafeteria and you have to leave our building to go to it.
     
    While you are at work you do not belong on your Personal Phone or Answering your Personal Phone, you are at Work not at Home or in a Bar or your car.
    A Random search is not uncommon now a days.
    You must not be a smoker or you would have made a comment on it as well.
    You could not Smoke on Company Property that includes inside your Car while on Company Property this includes Parking Lots.
     
    Don't get me wrong we need new young workers in the market today, someone needs to start replacing all them Baby Boomers over the next few Years. All you need to do is come up with Higher Work Ethics for yourself and you will be fine.
     



    I have great work ethics, I complete my work on time, usually ahead of time. I am a smoker but I'm used to only smoking on lunch break, as for breaks, they have 2 mandatory 15 minute and one 30 minute lunch. During the two 15's I am not allowed to leave the building to go to my car to talk I must sit in the break room with my coworkers, and judging by the skill level needed for this type of work, I seriously doubt I would get an intelligent conversation, more than likely it would be a lot of talk about getting laid, music and dope like most jobs I worked before I went into IT with low wage, low skill workers. 
     
    As for my phone, I tend to use it for work related purposes not just saying hello to my girl, who I might add is having a fight with cancer and I need to know she can reach me 24/7 reliably. But I use it regularly to look up work arounds, troubleshooting I hadn't thought of yet, or to listen to music while working, which might I add has at no professional job been a problem as long as my work is done on time to the highest standards. 
     
    This job how ever is not professional, I'd get paid 15 because of my resume, but most of their employee's work for 9hr because IT skills are not required. I would not be in a professional job, I'd have zero vertical movement options, and be locked into doing the same mundane task everyday till my eyes bleed. Ethics have no impact on how I work.
     
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    Dress it up and word it however you want, bottom line is you are pulling a check while doing nothing in return.  Maybe with your particular attitude and skillset you are setting your goals too high.  You are only worth what the current market is willing to pay and based on your last thread it seems you also do not have a very good attitude.
     
    Take the job get back in the work force, then start looking for that better job.  Prospective employers would much rather see someone who is under employed and working their butt off than someone who is just laying on the couch waiting for that great job to find them.
     
    Or just keep milking the system I am sure "your type" of job will come along.


     
    My skillset is quite clear, 2 years of Migrations including building the images, setting up the backup server for all client data, then proceeding with the migration from XP to 7 followed by restoring all client data. I don't have an exact figure but I'd put it at about 3500-4000 hours, desktop support both corporate and residential clocks in around 7000 hours total or 5 years almost, 2 solid years also doing helpdesk. When I'm not working for someone else, I'm working for myself but business is slow right now. My skillset is perfect for the jobs I apply for, this job I did not apply for, they cold called me to offer it.
     
    As for your attitude, and judgmental nature that is un needed, I did do something for this check, my contract I was working under was terminate prematurely at my previous job, putting me out of work, because they decided to cancel the project I was working on, because it was running over budget to bring in the network team, which might I add, I was more than able to do the same work, but the desktop support is not allowed in the data closet, and this was a decision made before I was given the job. What it came down to is they expected to setup a segmented network in a few weeks, and when it ran into several months because no inventory tracking system was in place, no testing had been completed, and no backup solution implemented, this caused my work to grind to halt while they figured it out, and eventually they canceled the entire project. I could have taken this company to court over contract violations, but I choose instead to take unemployment, which my previous employer agreed to support, because if they hadn't I had them for breach of contract, as well as job misclassification. Now take your self righteous attitude and please remove it from this thread, your sense of right and wrong is sorely confused.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 11:00:39 (permalink)
    It's ok Chase bank has asked me to interview for a position with their IT staff :P
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 11:06:00 (permalink)
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    Dress it up and word it however you want, bottom line is you are pulling a check while doing nothing in return.  Maybe with your particular attitude and skillset you are setting your goals too high.  You are only worth what the current market is willing to pay and based on your last thread it seems you also do not have a very good attitude.
     
    Take the job get back in the work force, then start looking for that better job.  Prospective employers would much rather see someone who is under employed and working their butt off than someone who is just laying on the couch waiting for that great job to find them.
     
    Or just keep milking the system I am sure "your type" of job will come along.


    Employers also do not like you switching jobs either.so I would not take a job which I'm going to leave as soon as a job I like comes along. I was also on unemployment and I did not take a lot of jobs because I did not feel it was a good fit for me.

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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 11:16:11 (permalink)
     
    My advice: Spend this time studying and getting certified. This is a great opportunity to advance your skillset while effectively getting paid to do it - very few people enjoy that luxury. If you're just sitting around doing jack and waiting for a better paying job, you will never get far. That job you've been offered sounds horrible, however it is true that prospective employers generally look more favorably on someone who is working over someone who is unemployed, so either take the job, or spend 30-40 hours a week taking a course and studying to improve your qualifications, which also shows prospective employers you are self-motivated.  Anything else and you're just making excuses.
     
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 11:44:10 (permalink)
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    My advice: Spend this time studying and getting certified. This is a great opportunity to advance your skillset while effectively getting paid to do it - very few people enjoy that luxury. If you're just sitting around doing jack and waiting for a better paying job, you will never get far. That job you've been offered sounds horrible, however it is true that prospective employers generally look more favorably on someone who is working over someone who is unemployed, so either take the job, or spend 30-40 hours a week taking a course and studying to improve your qualifications, which also shows prospective employers you are self-motivated.  Anything else and you're just making excuses.
     


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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 11:58:52 (permalink)
    Grey-Teks https://www.facebook.com/GreyTEKScomputers
    You might go further if you have your own Doman Name for your Company.
    Also you could go far with this if you did house calls a good rate per hour like $12 to $15.
    You would have more work than you think, the Older Folks really need a good tech at a good price.
    Think about all the older Windows XP Computers that need just a little upgrades to be able to run at Least Windows 7.
    You are set until 2020 and then the process would then start with Windows 7 to whatever is out at that time.
    If you only want to make money and not really provide a Great Service then you do need to find at least a part time job.
    You cannot provide Great Service if you are not 100% their for your end users.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 12:14:06 (permalink)
    Well my goal with Grey-Teks is to be fair and reasonable, I was charge close to what the other guys charge for on sites, though I was already considering lowering my prices to 40 for the first hour, and 20 for any additional hours worked. @ 15hr I'm not making money.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 12:14:52 (permalink)
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    Does the OP think that perhaps there's a correlation between this post and his previous "college degrees are worthless" thread? Just curious if you're still under the impression that a degree gets you nothing but "debt and hand holding".

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    (A degree) is still worthless, no matter what market it is...

    A collage degree means your good at wasting thousands of dollars, nothing else...

    Collage is simply a way to prove you don't have the attention span to learn something independently and require someone to hold your hand.


    Just saying.



    A ..collage ....? Methinks someone needs some English lessons.
     
    But as for the job, if it doesn't meet your requirements, don't take it.
     

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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 12:23:19 (permalink)
    no spelling is not part of my job, I fix things, I write work orders in excel and invoices in word :P
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 12:27:20 (permalink)
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    Well my goal with Grey-Teks is to be fair and resonable, I was charging what the other on site services in my area charge but I can take down the price.


    Like Best Buy, they charged my friend's Mom $110 to reconnect the 24-Pin power cable into the motherboard (The Bill said reseat Power cable).
    This is what part of the problem is, older and retired folks cannot pay outrageous costs for very little use of their computers.
    Most have computers to keep in touch with family and a small smart phone is to hard to use and to learn for them to use.
    It is in some ways the same as Health Care Costs.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 12:35:57 (permalink)
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    Well my goal with Grey-Teks is to be fair and resonable, I was charging what the other on site services in my area charge but I can take down the price.


    Like Best Buy, they charged my friend's Mom $110 to reconnect the 24-Pin power cable into the motherboard (The Bill said reseat Power cable).
    This is what part of the problem is, older and retired folks cannot pay outrageous costs for very little use of their computers.
    Most have computers to keep in touch with family and a small smart phone is to hard to use and to learn for them to use.
    It is in some ways the same as Health Care Costs.




    I understand that, but charging that far below market will just eat up my gas. This is my newest advert though, it went over to craiglist also
     
     
    Grey-Teks Computing Solutions offers fast and reliable on-site computer service that won't break your bank. Has your computer slowed down recently, are you getting unwanted pop ups or virus alerts from a program you didn't install? Have your grand-kids recently used the computer and now it's acting funny?

    So give us a call at 682-710-3315, and let us worry about the computer. So you can get on with your life. And remember, ff we can't fix your problem, we won't charge you a dime.

    Give us a call today, and a friendly technician will be out to take care of your needs.

    $40 for the first hour, and 30/hr for each subsequent hour. 
     
    When you consider the other shops charge 45-50hr in my area with no reduction beyond the first hour, I should attract some bussiness.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 12:36:40 (permalink)
    Getting back to the original post I say that if you don't like the work conditions stay on unemployment for a bit longer and try to obtain more IT certification or education that would make you more valuable to an employer.

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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 14:25:20 (permalink)
    rjohnson11
    Getting back to the original post I say that if you don't like the work conditions stay on unemployment for a bit longer and try to obtain more IT certification or education that would make you more valuable to an employer.


    Agreed. If you don't take this job, go get certified and education.

    As for the spelling thing, it is everyone's job to write. If your boss asks you to compose a project overview or lessons learned, you are going to appear as uneducated if your report has mass issues. I have an english book at my desk, just in case.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 14:55:25 (permalink)
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    Crazy job description. Tell them that you want $20/hour. IF they can't meet that, too bad for them.


    You are hillarious. That's a 12$ an hour job at best. Its an assembler job with little to no experience needed that anyone with a bit of training can do.
     
    candle_86
    Well my goal with Grey-Teks is to be fair and reasonable, I was charge close to what the other guys charge for on sites, though I was already considering lowering my prices to 40 for the first hour, and 20 for any additional hours worked. @ 15hr I'm not making money.


    Don't do that. That's poor business skills at best (I guess lack of a degree means you don't understand profitability much).
     
    On site should be at a minimum of 75-100$/hr  for non business and 100$ +++ for businesses, possible 125-150 for a business.
     
    Keep in mind, if you start a business and don't incorporate you can be taken against your own assets if someone sues you. And even if you don't incorporate usually a third of your income will go to taxes. So of that 75$hr(min as I said) 25 automatically is taken by the government, so set it aside for taxes be it quarterly paid or yearly. Then! Another 3rd will be for random expenses, vehicle upkeep, supplies, travel time, gas money, business insurance, possibly paying for an accountant to do your taxes or a lawyer to draft up your contracts, and perhaps some marketing, so your business grows. Lastly, you are left with a third of that money as your income which is 25$.
     
    You are foolish to think you can make it on an average of 60$ a visit (if assuming a visit average is 2 hours)
    post edited by Holo - 2015/04/02 14:59:43


      


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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 14:59:12 (permalink)
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    Well my goal with Grey-Teks is to be fair and resonable, I was charging what the other on site services in my area charge but I can take down the price.


    Like Best Buy, they charged my friend's Mom $110 to reconnect the 24-Pin power cable into the motherboard (The Bill said reseat Power cable).
    This is what part of the problem is, older and retired folks cannot pay outrageous costs for very little use of their computers.
    Most have computers to keep in touch with family and a small smart phone is to hard to use and to learn for them to use.
    It is in some ways the same as Health Care Costs.


    Don't compete on price with anyone, compete on features provided. If you can do the work faster, than you are better. But lowering your price against big shops is foolish when you do not have their resources.


      


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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 15:56:42 (permalink)
    The position and conditions you describe are pretty standard for a production job. You may use this job to move into a more technical position. Its easier to move around once your in the door and can prove your skills.
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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 19:09:52 (permalink)
     
    I wouldn't work under those conditions myself.

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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 19:22:15 (permalink)
    rjohnson11
    Getting back to the original post I say that if you don't like the work conditions stay on unemployment for a bit longer and try to obtain more IT certification or education that would make you more valuable to an employer.


    This. Believe it or not Candle this is absolutely true. The more certificates you have, the more valuable you are. I understand you don't want to go to school to spend money, but this will set you apart from the regular IT Joe's. I know experience in the IT field counts as well, but you wont reach to your satisfactory pay.  To be honest, I consider you very lucky getting pay 43k with just experience.
    As far as the job in the assembly line, just quit and stay unemployed, your skills/knowledge/years of experience are getting wasted, don't settle for less, unless you do not have any other choice.  Keep applying and the best of luck to you. (always practice on your answer to this question:  "What set you apart from the rest of the individuals being interviewed with more certificates than you?" If you know how to answer this, you will ace any interview.

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    Re: So got offered a job, not really thrilled and I can refuse it. 2015/04/02 19:23:04 (permalink)
    Holo
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    Crazy job description. Tell them that you want $20/hour. IF they can't meet that, too bad for them.


    You are hillarious. That's a 12$ an hour job at best. Its an assembler job with little to no experience needed that anyone with a bit of training can do.
     

     
    The intent is to set your wage at something you can live with on a job you have no interest in. If they bite, it'll pay enough to deal with it till you find something worth doing. Frankly, I've done it twice in the past and it's worked. No harm, no foul if they don't accept. Feel it's hilarious as much as you like but if you don't think you're worth X wage, the employer certainly won't either.
    post edited by Brad_Hawthorne - 2015/04/02 19:25:58
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