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Brand new Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 will not boot. System will not boot with it installed. Hangs at Classified X99 screen. Will not even let me get into bios. Have to shut machine down and remove it to get system to boot. Will boot with M.2 socket disabled. And will boot with M.2 Socket Enabled with out drive installed. But once enabled and installed, system freezes on boot. A2 code appears on motherboard and just stays. I read, I may need a PCIe 3.0 adapter? Was pretty excited about my new 960 SSD drive, now is a headache. What am I doing wrong? Also...... Do I have something installed into my PE5?? The answer is "No" Someone said something about a Samsung NVMe SSD driver? I could not find one nor did the drive come with one. I have Samsung Magician and updates. I do have other SSD's installed in my system. (All Samsung) This is my 1st M.2 I also have Samsung Migration installed. I am ready, just can't get drive to let me boot into Windows. This will be my "C" drive eventually, but for now, just want to get my system to recognize it. Also my Classified X99 Motherboard has the latest BIOS update ver. 2.03
post edited by brockkane - 2016/11/23 02:28:54
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/23 03:06:50
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I see you have a nice 960 Pro M.2. I'd advise on going with a PCIe 3.0 adapter for the PE lanes, otherwise you're capping it at PCIe 2.0 within the interface. Here are the steps I took to setup my XP941 (PCIe 2.0) SSD. - Enable M.2 socket3 (You won't have to if you're going with the PCIe lanes.) - Enable BIOS in UEFI - Save and Reboot - Make sure your M.2 SSD drive is at top of the boot order. - Should be good to go.
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/23 03:08:38
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Thank you so much, I'll try that now.
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/23 03:31:12
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i don't use the m.2 slot on my motherboard, because i found the speed of my 950vnand was really low, this is what i us for my 950vnand https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-hyper-m.2-x4-pci-e-mini-adapter-card-black-pcb-hd-032-as.html it just slots in to a PCI-e slot(don't put it in x16 slot), you can pick them up cheaper, think i paid around the £10 mark, avoid the cheap cheap generic ones that are on ebay. I will say that when the 950vnand had been run for a few months and i moved it back to the M.2 slot on the mobo the speeds were greatly increased from what they were before, i would say that all components need time to be bedded in, give it time and all will be well, remember to optimize the drive now and again or set up a schedule for it to be optimized. http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools.html near bottom of page is the driver you'll also get magician so you can setup the "over provision" and that'll also speed things up greatly, in their, try not use the microsoft one that is nae doubt installed atm, remember to select thing as the boot drive :D + don't hold me on it but have you set all you devices to UEFI and not legacy in the Bios, on my asus mobo i found the the settings in CSM also in secure boot section you want to set that to "other OS"(not windows) and set enhanced mode. you might have to hunt in the bios as yours maybe called something differnent, but you should spot it easy enough,
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/23 08:54:37
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No, you don't need the m.2 drive to be in a PCIE adapter for it to boot. The only reason to use a PCIE adapter is to get the full PCIE 3.0 speeds - which makes zero difference in game loading and windows boot times: http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-X99-Classified-NVMERAM-DriveRAIDSATA-III-SSD-Game-Load-Times-m2556132.aspx Remove all other drives from the computer and try again. If booting from your cloned m.2 drive still doesn't work, then try installing Windows from scratch (you'll need windows 8 or 10 to have the NVME driver, or you'll need to download it and put it on a disc to load it during the windows install). If that fails to work, then I'd guess that your board has an issue, and I'd call up EVGA and see about an RMA: http://www.evga.com/about/contactus/
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/23 10:50:08
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arestavo No, you don't need the m.2 drive to be in a PCIE adapter for it to boot. The only reason to use a PCIE adapter is to get the full PCIE 3.0 speeds - which makes zero difference in game loading and windows boot times: http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-X99-Classified-NVMERAM-DriveRAIDSATA-III-SSD-Game-Load-Times-m2556132.aspx Remove all other drives from the computer and try again. If booting from your cloned m.2 drive still doesn't work, then try installing Windows from scratch (you'll need windows 8 or 10 to have the NVME driver, or you'll need to download it and put it on a disc to load it during the windows install). If that fails to work, then I'd guess that your board has an issue, and I'd call up EVGA and see about an RMA: http://www.evga.com/about/contactus/
yea that the answer RMA, do you hear what your saying let the @op sort it, afore going on about RMA, this is not hardware related... it's Bios setup up problem or as you say he might be using OS less than 8 or 10 BUT if the OS installed on to the 960 then it sees it then it's a booting issue bios settings needs changing see post 3 and 4 but maybe it's a 960vnand problem and maybe the @op should RMA that first would that be more of an idea....? or maybe he should just RMA the lot and be done with it? CSM and change everything to UEFI, or if your not happy changing every/any thing just change the storage to UEFI first option and if you have another install on another boot drive that is attached make sure sure you running the right windows boot manager i'm not slating anyone off but when i got my x99 board i got so frustrated with it that i booted a hole in the perspex side, but when i did a bit of research i released it was me that was the problem, because the bios not being setup correctly. i even thought of RMA option but now I sorted myself I felt kinda chuffed, and proud to say "this is my board" they don't call it a "enthusiast" board for nothing, @op if you feel in yourself, that you have given yourself enough time to sort it out, try phoning support or dropping them a email to see what your options are, but do it out of frustration do a bit out research plenty online google is your friend :) maybe has nothing to do with it but remember to change your system agent voltage to 0.350v and cpu vin to 1.95v and booting becomes less of an issue THEY DON'T CALL IT A "ENTHUSIAST" BOARD BECAUSE IT'S PLUG AND PLAY, if you wanted one of then maybe you should have gone for a "consumer" board.. respectfully :D
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/23 17:07:07
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- Make sure your M.2 SSD drive is at top of the boot order.
Um, it's not even listed. The usualls are listed only.... ie.... CD/DVD - Hard Disk - USB Drives, ect ect.... there is no option to select my M.2 SSD to make boot first on list. Also now when I boot, only can get into BIOS from start, when in UEFI. Windows will not load. Just boots to BIOS only, can't get any further, unless I return to Legacy.
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/23 18:39:54
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hey lookk at it this way at least things are moving forward :) do an install with it still set in UEFI mode, change everything to UEFI first i.e graphics, network and blah blah, have you got CSM turned on? try clearing the secure boot keys this could also be issue mine and report back :) P.S i have asked Sajin one of the moderators to have a look at the @op see what he thinks
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/23 23:26:41
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If anything I think that Asus hyper kit whatever may be the culprit here. If nothing changed card is tied to Asus firmware on Asus boards. Multitude of reports that card doesn't work with other vendors. If 960 work on the Classy M.2 but not on the adapter then there you have it. And let's not forget that UEFI is often main source of troubles. Every board vendor create its own outside basic code delivered by Intel. It took a loooong time to resolve Classy problems with Xonars for example. Cards which worked with in every other board from the start of 99 platform. If drive is not listed - when plugged into board M.2 slot - then indeed it maybe UEFI problem with new Samsung controller. Controller - let's not forget about it, its not NAND-only. I and few others know very well how persistently inflexible is Classy (or EVGA boards in general) when dealing with storage controllers... Just saying, having bags of first hand experience.
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 04:20:34
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OK, here's where I'm at.... Tried every combo. Still system hangs when trying to boot from UEFI. CSM Configuration: Launch PXE OpRom Policy UEFI Launch Storage OpRom Policy UEFI Other PCI device Rom priority UEFI Fixed Boot Order Priorities Boot mode select UEFI Tried booting with all this selected without drive installed. System still will not boot into windows. Hangs at Classified X99 Boot screen. So this tells me it's not the drive. Still have to turn Boot mode select to Legacy!
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 04:36:40
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Don't listen to others with non-EVGA boards because they all act differently when it comes to M.2 . I left you with instructions. Don't change the default order of CSM. On my board all hell broke loose when I did. Unfortunately, X99 is a funky system to work with. Sometimes it works perfectly and others, we have to work with.
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 05:08:05
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I did reset my defaults. This is frustrating. Wanted to Migrate my main system to this new 960 M.2 drive. Just not happening. I sure don't want to get a new board for one M.2 SSD. Would be silly, besides I have had this X99 Classy for just one year this week..... Place Purchased: EVGA Purchase Date: 11/27/2015 Date Registered: 12/12/2015 9:09:44 PM I haven't given up yet. Thanks for all your help everyone. Happy Thanksgiving... I got to get to the Gym and let out some frustrations!
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 05:25:39
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GTXJackBauer Don't listen to others with non-EVGA boards because they all act differently when it comes to M.2 . I left you with instructions. Don't change the default order of CSM. On my board all hell broke loose when I did. Unfortunately, X99 is a funky system to work with. Sometimes it works perfectly and others, we have to work with.
@ypsylon he is not that far forward yet i.e he is not using a asus hyper kit adapter, and he should have any bother running it in any board, it has jumpers to set it for what it needs to be, GTXJackBauer you've already been on this marvelous journey more than once i found a post dated Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:43 AM that you were involved with regarding the "X99 Micro 2 Problem with Sammy SM951 M.2 SSD" strangely enough ALL x99 boards are the same dude, just have different looking bios maybe a different shaped or labeled heatsink but much and such the same, the evga bios looks similar to a very very old version of the x99e-ws bios with more color, me thinks evga needs to sort better labeling for the user, or just a better bios structure full stop. @brockkane what would the chances of you doing a bios reset(clr CMOS)? so you feel you can unplug it from mains and take the battery out for a few? if you have a raid setup i would unplug that before reset :(
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 06:13:10
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All X99 boards are not the same. This round the manufacturer was 100% responsible for the BIOS and compatibility, unlike the X79 and X58 platforms which were wholly or partly based on the server board equivalent and had much better compatibility for add in cards.
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 06:44:08
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arestavo All X99 boards are not the same. This round the manufacturer was 100% responsible for the BIOS and compatibility, unlike the X79 and X58 platforms which were wholly or partly based on the server board equivalent and had much better compatibility for add in cards.
i'll would correct on a few thing no one said it had to be in the pci-e complex to boot, bit silly having a m.2 port if it ain't going to be able to boot from and i still don't agree with you on the x99 situation BUT what i'll do is get a hold of x99 evga board to play with for a bit and get back to you :) i notice on mods rig you rocking a 950pro in the pci-e complex, is there a reason you don't use the m.2 slot? if your board has one what issues did you have and how did you address them?
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 07:52:15
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baconinabun
arestavo All X99 boards are not the same. This round the manufacturer was 100% responsible for the BIOS and compatibility, unlike the X79 and X58 platforms which were wholly or partly based on the server board equivalent and had much better compatibility for add in cards.
i'll would correct on a few thing no one said it had to be in the pci-e complex to boot, bit silly having a m.2 port if it ain't going to be able to boot from and i still don't agree with you on the x99 situation BUT what i'll do is get a hold of x99 evga board to play with for a bit and get back to you :) i notice on mods rig you rocking a 950pro in the pci-e complex, is there a reason you don't use the m.2 slot? if your board has one what issues did you have and how did you address them?
Originally I wanted to have the "best and fastest" - knowing that the X99 Classified had PCIE 2.0 for the onboard m.2 slot I went and purchased an expansion card to get PCIE 3.0 speed. That turned out to be completely unnecessary as game loading and windows boot times are almost exactly the same as my SATA III 850 EVO SSD, and I did a post about it and included the few other reviewers that bothered to test normal usage as well - http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-X99-Classified-NVMERAM-DriveRAIDSATA-III-SSD-Game-Load-Times-m2556132.aspx I did not have any issues getting the drive to work with the expansion card - popped it in, used Samsung's migration software, took out the old SATA III SSD, and it booted into Windows 10 just fine. If I get the chance Saturday night or Sunday, I'll remove the 950 Pro and try it in the m.2 slot of my X99 Classified. Since one of the m.2 slots takes away a USB 2.0 port, I'll be using Slot M which takes away PCIE slot 5. Which, come to think of it, might be the OPs problem since there are two different m.2 slots (one meant more for WiFi cards as it is slower (slot E), the other for storage devices (slot M)). Expansion Slots: 5x PCI-E 16x slot 2x16/8, 3x8, 4x8 1x PCI-E 4x slot 2x M.2 Ports -M.2 Socket 1 (Slot E) shares signal distribution from USB2.0 #3 port, please select the operational mode in BIOS setup menu -M.2 Socket 2 (Slot M) shares signal distribution from PE5, please select the operational mode in BIOS setup menu
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 09:46:28
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dunno if it makes a difference on the Evga x99 but on my x99e-ws i have my 1080ftw mounted in the the 3rd slot on the complex, the pci-e_3 slot is tied to the m.2 slot in some sort of way, and that's what i had my problems with originally after i had changed to every thing in Bios to UEFI, dunno if that sort of thing would be an issue for yourself, but maybe worth a look, but maybe he should stick his cd/dvd/sdcard/usbpendrive with the windows instalation media and see what happens when he tries to install to it? dunno i'm maybe just confusing the issue as i have different make of the x99 i found this not so old thread ypsylon was commenting on, have a look http://forums.evga.com/X99-Classified-Unable-to-Detect-Intel-750-PCIe-SSD-m2433116.aspx start looking post#12 onwards :) and you can always Email EVGA tech support if you feel the need :D
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 15:02:35
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Now I tried selecting UEFI. Boot Option #1 to USB Key (Win 10) Then boot into Windows install. The list of drives to install Windows 10 still did not reveal my 960 M.2 SSD. Just listed drives already on system. No matter what I do. My X99 Classy will not see the M.2 drive.
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 15:07:16
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And you tried removing the other drives and just having the 960 Pro installed, right?
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 16:11:15
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arestavo And you tried removing the other drives and just having the 960 Pro installed, right?
This. Start with the bare basics.
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 16:18:19
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Doing that next.... Thanks
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Re: Samsung NVMe SSD 960 Pro M.2 - PC won't Boot!
2016/11/24 16:46:54
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Since you're not going to notice the difference in speed unless you're doing large file transfers I'd just return the m.2 and go back to reliable sata 3.
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