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2011/01/25 20:19:17 (permalink)
Hi everyone,
 
I used to run 2 stick of 2GB OCZ memory and my BIOS used to say "SLI Memory Enabled" or something like that. Recently I installed another 2 sticks of 2GB each of the same brand and model. However, my BIOS now reads "SLI Memory NOT Detected."
 
Has this happened to anyone and is there a fix? My BIOS are P08, will upgrading to P10 fix this?
Also, how do I check the version of my MoBo drivers in windows 7 again? lol
 
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/25 20:34:18 (permalink)
    I know this happened with another user on the forums here. They installed another kit of Patriot PVS34G2000LLKN and the SLI memory was not detected. Although they installed the same part number the memory specs were different, one kit was 1.7 to 1.9 volt memory and the other was 2.0 volt memory.
     
    I am running on the P10 bios with 790I Ultra SLI mobo. I have 8 GB of PVS34G2000LLKN Patriot 1.7 to 1.9 volt memory and it shows up as SLI enabled.
     
    My guess is the BIOS or some minor change in memory specs between the different sticks may be causing this. I would suggest you try the P10 BIOS and see if it resloves the issue. If this does not work themn I would contact the memory manuffacturer and ask them if there were any discrete differences between the two EPP 2.0 memory sticks you are running. Something may have changed which was not significant enough to list on the memory specs. 
     
    Another thought would be to clear your BIOS, per mobo manual directions, if the P10 revision does not resolve this and see if that fixes the issue.
     
    EDIT: I am thinking you can see mobo drivers in system info within the nvidia control panel. It has been a while since I looked at this and I could be wrong but I know many of the Nvidia drivers are listed there.
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/25 21:22:38 (permalink)
    Sorry but, this is a normal occurrance and a BIOS update is probably not going to make any difference. I do not know the exact details as to why it happens but, when you install 4 stix the EPP 2.0 (SLI) Feature gets disabled. Take out either pair and the feature should be available again.
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 00:02:55 (permalink)
    Just manually define the memory settings in the bios and your set.
     
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 00:47:29 (permalink)
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    Sorry but, this is a normal occurrance and a BIOS update is probably not going to make any difference. I do not know the exact details as to why it happens but, when you install 4 stix the EPP 2.0 (SLI) Feature gets disabled. Take out either pair and the feature should be available again.

    (EDIT: Jeffrey, I understand that others are having this issue now with aparently compatible memory. Strange indeed given I am not experiencing this problem what so ever.)

    I have 8GB of memory (4 sticks) installed on my 790I ultra SLI with like voltage sticks and the EPP 2.0 memory is enabled with all functions of EPP 2.0 working. This is something I paid close attention to after a discussion with another user who had the problem of the EPP 2.0 becoming disabled when sticks with mixed voltage specs were installed. In fact it was one of the first things I looked at when I put the full memory compliment into my PC. (EDIT: When I mixed my PVS34G2000LLKN memory kits, one kit of 1.7 to 1.9 volt and the other kit of 2.0 volt, the EPP 2.0 functionality did not appear in BIOS. This is what led me to believe it was due to memory compatibility.)
     
    You may know something I don't yet know, and now I am wondering if there may be a setting within BIOS you have set differently than I have set in my system (although i can not see how this would affect things as EPP is detected prior to any settings taking hold). When thinking of this in terms of memory compatibility of two different memory kits I am now wondering if it invloves how closely a memory kit is capable of working togather with another kit of like kind.
     
    In my case, when adding the extra 4GB of memory, I did not have to increase the voltage or increase the timings of the memory to acheive stability and this is with p1 and p2 enabled. After seeing comments from Patriot that some kits require a voltage increase of 0.1 to 0.15 volts to stabilize the memory this made me feel very comfortable that both of my kits seems to be so closely compatible. Patriot did go on to say that not all of the 790I mother boards required the memory voltage increase when they certified the memory for the 790I. What Patriot did not say was if this was mother board related, memory related, or a combination of the two.
     
    I suppose this is a rather moot issue since all EPP 2.0 does is provide a few settings without manual input unless the point of memory compatibility can be proven. If it comes down to memory compatibility then this phenomena would fall into a likely closely related category as where memory voltages sometimes require an increase when the mother board is fully loaded.  See the two screen shots of my BIOS settings below, these settings are with 8GB memory onboard and nothing over clocked. EDIT: I have run numerous fully booted stability test of various kinds including IBT at highest settings with over 100 passes,  also memtest+ 8 hours per stick in first slot at the speeds and settings below, and close to 20 hours of the full complement of memory combined. The test produced not a single error and all resulting IBT values were identical with only slight differences in pass time seen.
     


    I am very interested in knowing as much about this as I can learn so all information will be appreciated. Something is oddly strange if this is not due to memory compatibility issues, BIOS settings, or a need to reset the BIOS. I can't imagine what else it could be other than mother board hardware which seems odd to even assume.
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 06:03:09 (permalink)
    Are you modifing BIOS through a windows program? To see all drivers and current software these will work 
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 12:49:49 (permalink)
    @ n9zn-extra.....well, they say there exceptions to every rule and I guess your system is it in this case. Most folks experience the feature getting disabled with 4 stix installed....from what I have read. I do not know from first-hand experience as I have never had any SLI Ready RAM on my board.

     
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 13:09:47 (permalink)
    I have 4 stix of EPP memory installed and I had the same issue going from 2 stix to 4 stix of the same memory. For some reason after I installed the extra 2 stix the bios reverted back to disabled and my memory timings were set back to Auto. Once I manually set my timings and made sure that EPP 2.0 memory was also enabled, the post screen then showed I had EPP memory enabled.
     
    So in my opinion you are both right!! 
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 15:30:01 (permalink)
    I had SLI ready ram, It was OCZ, the only thing with with enabling EPP, timings are already set, the ram will run faster than the FSB, I just didn't look into it to see if I can modify my FSB settings, I OC'd it and  I was able to get it up to 1800mhz, then I backed it down and it failed. so much for OCZ quaility.   Had to RMA it and it's EOL ram. I had to find out OCZ doesn't play well with the 790i chipset.
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 19:14:45 (permalink)
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    I had SLI ready ram, It was OCZ, the only thing with with enabling EPP, timings are already set, the ram will run faster than the FSB, I just didn't look into it to see if I can modify my FSB settings, I OC'd it and  I was able to get it up to 1800mhz, then I backed it down and it failed. so much for OCZ quaility.   Had to RMA it and it's EOL ram. I had to find out OCZ doesn't play well with the 790i chipset.
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    If you are running linked and synched you will not have the problem with RAM running faster than FSB. My memory is 2000MHz memory at its normal speed. In my case the memory has been under clocked back to 1333MHz as a result of running it linked and synched.
     
    Not pointing fingers at anyone here I wanted to make this general comment. I have a feeling that many of us sometimes return memory which is actually good because we run into things which make us feel the memory has failed to live up to its expected result. I nearly did this myself with some RAM not long ago when it was erring in memtest+ 4.10. After 2 days of off and on playing around with settings I finally figured out what was wrong and it turned out to be BIOS settings for SPP voltage set to low with P1 and P2 enabled.
     
    raguza123Are you modifing BIOS through a windows program? To see all drivers and current software these will work Download "AIDA64" or "Advance system care" by IO BIT, both are free for 30 days, I recommend AIDA64

     
    I assume you were referring to my posting up the NTune BIOS windows. I will never use a software based utility to set my BIOS settings for one simple reason. Too many others have documented problems in the past with windows based programs when changing BIOS values. The only reason I used this here was to show current settings in my BIOS with hopes something might stand out which would help clarify this EPP 2.0 issue when memory is maxed on a mother board. (As an aside the act of installing some of these types of programs can create issues even if they are not used. Since I plan on wiping this install of my windows soon I personally did not mind taking the chance. I would not suggest to anyone that using a windows based BIOS tuning program is a good practice, it needs to be looked at as a personal and informed choice after understanding the potential for problems.)
     
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 20:08:21 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the replies! I read through all of them :). I will definitely check out AIDA64.
     
    So I went into the BIOS and Linked/Synced the memory, then I rebooted. I went back in and same problem, SLI Memory still not detected. Any more ideas?

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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 20:15:16 (permalink)
    When you enable EPP, you are not able to link and snyc memory to the FSB, I tried it, and as far as my memory, it was tested with memtest and it failed, sorry I guess 15 yrs working on pc's I don't know anything, I'll shut up

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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/26 20:20:08 (permalink)
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    When you enable EPP, you are not able to link and snyc memory to the FSB, I tried it, and as far as my memory, it was tested with memtest and it failed, sorry I guess 15 yrs working on pc's I don't know anything, I'll shut up
    Well the interesting thing is, I couldnt find EPP anywhere in my BIOS. What does it stand for by the way? I read my manual, and the first entry in the memory settings is the SLI Memory setting that used to let me enable and disable. Its currently set to disabled and wont let me change it. Lettering appears blueish transparent like the other unchangeable fields.


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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/27 01:38:51 (permalink)
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    When you enable EPP, you are not able to link and snyc memory to the FSB, I tried it, and as far as my memory, it was tested with memtest and it failed, sorry I guess 15 yrs working on pc's I don't know anything, I'll shut up
    Well the interesting thing is, I couldnt find EPP anywhere in my BIOS. What does it stand for by the way? I read my manual, and the first entry in the memory settings is the SLI Memory setting that used to let me enable and disable. Its currently set to disabled and wont let me change it. Lettering appears blueish transparent like the other unchangeable fields.


    Duntless,
    Does your memory say EPP 2.0 Ready on it or SLI Ready? If your not sure call the manufacturer and ask them if it is EPP 2.0 ready memory, they will certainly know the answer to that.
     
    Based on your saying you used to see the EPP setting in BIOS I assumed your memory is EPP 2.0 Ready have you by chance changed your memory since the time you have seen this designation in BIOS? 
     
    As for what Epp 2.0 does go take a look at this Nvidia link where it is completely explained in the PDF.
    http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/52280/NVIDIA_EPP2_TB.pdf
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/27 02:35:43 (permalink)
    EPP 2.0 and SLI Ready are the same thing. Maybe they show up differently in different BIOS Versions?? EPP stands for Extreme Performance Profiles.

     
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/27 04:06:31 (permalink)
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    When you enable EPP, you are not able to link and snyc memory to the FSB, I tried it, and as far as my memory, it was tested with memtest and it failed, sorry I guess 15 yrs working on pc's I don't know anything, I'll shut up

    Raguza123, I do not know if you were directing this toward me or someone else but I did want to answer your concern in case it was a result of something I said.

    Let me apologize for my incorrect usage of the word enabled when I should have used detected instead. My discussion here has been over BIOS detecting EPP 2.0 memory when the motherboard is fully loaded with memory.
     
    If I somehow implied you lacked knowledge that was not my intention. We all have something to contribute and I learn from each person who adds to the discussions here. There is nothing you have said which causes me to believe you do not know what your talking about.
     
    EDITED: I can also understand how your memory may not have passed memtest+ (looks like your memory did have a probelm). I was not trying to say you returned good memory. I just made a general comment about what I see on the boards here and at other sites where memory is returned without considering other causes. That comment had nothing to do with your statement, it was simply a passing thought as I was writing which is why i began the sentence by saying "Not pointing fingers at anyone here".
     
    post edited by n9zn-extra - 2011/01/30 03:24:22
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/27 10:13:19 (permalink)
    If your system has problems booting when 4 single RAM sticks are installed, SLI-ready memory has a chip on the memory that instructs the motherboard on how to configure the timings, voltages, etc... However this is for 2 sticks running in dual channel. So when you’re running 4 sticks you have to run more relaxed timings and they must be manually configured.
     
    When you had only 2 sticks enabled all the setting were made for you, so SLI memory was enabled. Once you installed 4 sticks this disabled automatic settings thus SLI memory not being detected. Manuallly change your memory timings in your bios using Expert and timings from OCZ website for your type of ram.
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/27 15:23:13 (permalink)
    The Memory says "SLI Ready" on it. Here is the part number I ordered twice:
     
    http://www.ocztechnology....ition_4gb_dual_channel
     
    I ordered one kit in 2009 and a second kit (same part number) in 2010. The packaging is slightly different in both kits and the modules themselves also look slightly different. Because of this discrepancy, I installed the 2009 kit in slots 0 and 1 (gray color slots). The 2010 kit is installed in slots 2 and 3 (black color slots ).
     
    So you guys think that SLI-Ready gets set to disabled no matter what when installing 4 sticks on the 780i board? This shouldn't affect performance right?
     
     
    Here are some Pics of my BIOS:
     
    MEMORY CONFIG

     
    MEMORY TIMINGS

     
    VOLTAGES

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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/27 16:50:33 (permalink)
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      Change optimal to expert and manually change your timings to that of what your manufacturer of your memory suggests.
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/27 17:32:08 (permalink)
    Manufacturer recommends 5-4-4-15. Mine are running a bit faster. Wouldn't it be better to leave them as is?

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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/28 03:17:07 (permalink)
    I will report back on this after I receive appropriate responses from Patriot?
     
    I have specifically ask them to tell me why my memory is SLI memory detected and fully functional when running 4 sticks of PVS34G2000LLKN.
     
    I have also ask then to provide info on how this memory is designed and supposed to function. IE: If more than 2 sticks is supposed to disable SLI / EPP operation?
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/28 14:46:21 (permalink)
    Here are the questions I ask Patriot and their response back to me.
     

     
    My next step is to find out if there is something wrong with my system since memory is maxed and EPP 2.0 is detected and seemingly working fine, I haven't seen an error yet and it been a couple of  months. 
     
    EDIT: The answers to my next question are below.

    Hope this help clarify this for everyone. After I get some info from Nvidia we should be done with this subject.
    EDIT: I am not running memory at 2000MHz speed on my mother board. When I stated that things seemd to be working fine with EPP 2.0 settings it was because all of the settings changed properly in BIOS when EPP was enabled however those settings were never left that way on my system. Instead I am running my SLI detected memory in EXPERT mode, linked and sync'd (1333MHz).
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/29 03:38:22 (permalink)
    So, my earlier statement seems to still stand true.......For most folks, the EPP/SLI Feature will get disabled when 4 stix are installed into the MoBo.

     
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/29 20:27:30 (permalink)
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    So, my earlier statement seems to still stand true.......For most folks, the EPP/SLI Feature will get disabled when 4 stix are installed into the MoBo.

    Jeffrey, I never felt you were wrong. If you have a second go back and re-read my post to you. You actually opened my eyes on this more than before and I went back to edit my response to reflect that eye opening not long after initially posting.
     
    This has been a good debate and as Napathanes pointed out it looks like we are both right. Based solely on volume of affceted users it appears you are more right than I. I also think trying to get an answer which is more specific, why some see SLI detected memory and others do not, will help everyone who has questions moving forward.
     
    Personally it would be nice to find out if I got LUCKY and purchased some very compatible memory kits or if I am having an abnormal system issue.
     
    When this thread began I had no idea so many users were experiencing full memory complements of memory not being detected as SLI ready. I did know of some who had the non-detection issue with memory of different specs while I also knew all 4 sticks (8GB) of my memory and a few other users memory is detected as SLI memory. Based on what I had seen this led me to believe it has to do with compatibility of memory kits when combined on the same motherboard. I still believe that but with the exception Patriot pointed out "EPP could not be enabled on earlier revisions of 790I boards". Patriot did go on to say "it may be different now".
     
    The question remaining is why some memory beyond two sticks is detected as SLI memory? I believe we have  a large part of the answer to that question provided to us by Patriot in the dialogue with them. The part we do not have is a statement from Nvidia, who are the basic designers of the SLI Ready memory function who can add insight to the evolution of our mother boards and EPP memory.
     
    I am under the impression companies like EVGA, MSI, ASUS, and others who make quality and discrete functionality modifications to the basic Nvidia design do so by changing the quality, type of circuit components (Caps, resistors, diodes, and so on), and minor dircuit changes leaving the functionality of the basic Nvidia design concept unchanged. The quality and type of changes opens up our mother boards to enhanced performance and abilities beyond Nvidias basic design. It is possible some of these manufacturing changes may play a role in how and when memory is detected as I believe Patriot was pointing out.
     
    Like mother board manufacturers change things memory manufacturers also may make changes to memory sticks in much the same way. This could also affect who sees memory detected as SLI ready. All of the combinations or revisions, products, and designs could yeald infinite conclusions.
     
    A statement from Nvidia will likely not close the information hole on this issue completely (mother board and memory manufacturers would all need looked at independently and togather)  but it may provide enough information to make this more easily understood. Nvidia is the only source of information who can speak to mother boards and memory as a designer.
     
    duntlessManufacturer recommends 5-4-4-15. Mine are running a bit faster. Wouldn't it be better to leave them as is?

    My statement to thread OP would be take the advice of others here and do not be concerned if your memory is not detected as SLI memory. Set your memory settings manually and if you run into questions and need help let the members here work with you. As for your timings and which are better I cannot answer for Napathanes but I can give you my thoughts. Napathane likely said set timings to manufacturer recomendations because when adding additional RAM over 2 sticks many times timings have to be loosened to insure continued reliability and operation. I am presently running my memory more tightly but I am not planning on leaving things this way very long, I only took that option because of curiosity, I am running my memory 66% of rated speed and everything passed testing. When I over clock my system memory timings will certainly change likely to manufacturer specs as it approaces 80% of speed ratings. You and I also need to consider our memory controler and lane busses ability to handle the increased stress of 4 sticks as Patriot pointed out to me.
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/29 22:29:54 (permalink)
     
    Sli Memory is enabled with my 8gb of Ram.  http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=593369&mpage=1#613364
     

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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/30 13:53:19 (permalink)
    We could spend the rest of our lives trying to figure out why SLI gets disabled for some and not for others when installing 4 stix. I personally, think it is a waste of time worrying about it as, it really makes no difference to how well the RAM functions if it enabled or not.
     
    EDIT: My model of RAM has the Intel XMP Profiles (Intel's version of the SLI/EPP Profiles) and my board cannot read/detect these profiles to be able to use them. However, CPU-z CAN read them and display them to me so that I know what they are. I am running on one of them as my everyday settings (see my CPU-z Validation Link)....I just had to manually set it into the BIOS.
     
    Here is what they are (plus, there are also JEDEC Standard Timings at 914MHz and 1066MHz for BIOS Safe Mode booting):
     

    XMP timings table  CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
                    XMP #1   6.0-6-6-18-31-2T @ 685 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 1370MHz 
                    XMP #2   7.0-7-7-20-36-2T @ 800 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 1600MHz
                    XMP #3   8.0-8-8-23-47-2T @ 914 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 1828MHz **what I'm running**
                    XMP #4   9.0-9-9-26-47-2T @ 1028 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 2056MHz
                    XMP #5   10.0-10-10-29-52-2T @ 1142 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 2284MHz
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/30 22:24:09 (permalink)
    JeffreyHam

    We could spend the rest of our lives trying to figure out why SLI gets disabled for some and not for others when installing 4 stix. I personally, think it is a waste of time worrying about it as, it really makes no difference to how well the RAM functions if it enabled or not.

    EDIT: My model of RAM has the Intel XMP Profiles (Intel's version of the SLI/EPP Profiles) and my board cannot read/detect these profiles to be able to use them. However, CPU-z CAN read them and display them to me so that I know what they are. I am running on one of them as my everyday settings (see my CPU-z Validation Link)....I just had to manually set it into the BIOS.

    Here is what they are (plus, there are also JEDEC Standard Timings at 914MHz and 1066MHz for BIOS Safe Mode booting):


    XMP timings table  CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
                   XMP #1   6.0-6-6-18-31-2T @ 685 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 1370MHz 
                   XMP #2   7.0-7-7-20-36-2T @ 800 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 1600MHz
                   XMP #3   8.0-8-8-23-47-2T @ 914 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 1828MHz **what I'm running**
                   XMP #4   9.0-9-9-26-47-2T @ 1028 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 2056MHz
                   XMP #5   10.0-10-10-29-52-2T @ 1142 MHz (1.900 Volts) = 2284MHz

    I agree we will never have the complete answer with so many mother boards, BIOS, memory, and manufacturers. We have gone this far and all I am waiting on is Nvidias reply to my inquiry with them. It may or may not give us a better idea of what is going on with this. After I hear from them I am stopping my search search for an answer.
     
    If it makes a difference is still up in the air for me. If it turns out that SLI detection on more than 2 sticks has to do with excellent memory kit compatibility or something not operating correctly in a system it would make a difference to me to know. I would guess that to be true for other EPP memory owners too. 
     
    Now your making me envious Jeffrey, CPU-Z will not read my EPP 2.0 timing table like it does XMP. I would guess there are not enough EPP 2.0 users to make it worth their time to get it right. I was looking at that earlier today so your timing is good. Do you happen to know of a utility that will read the EPP 2.0 timing table?
     
    This is what CPU-Z shows me, much of which is not correct.
    Memory SPD
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    DIMM #    1
     SMBus address  0x50
     Memory type  DDR3
     Module format  UDIMM
     Manufacturer (ID) PDP Systems (7F7F7F7F7F020000)
     Size   2048 MBytes
     Max bandwidth  PC3-8500F (533 MHz)
     Part number  2000LL Series
     Number of banks  8
     Nominal Voltage  1.50 Volts
     EPP   no
     EPP 2.0   yes
     XMP   no
    JEDEC timings table  CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
     JEDEC #1  6.0-6-6-18-24 @ 457 MHz
     JEDEC #2  7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/31 12:00:51 (permalink)
    Looks like you may have not gotten all the possible info. Open CPU-z, click on the About Tab and at the bottom in the Tools Section, click on the Save Report (.txt) button. Save the report to the location of your choice (I save to Desktop) and go thru it. You may then find a more detailed EPP timings table....I do not know so,....please let me know what ya get.

     
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    Re:SLI Memory Not Detected? 2011/01/31 15:50:12 (permalink)
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    Looks like you may have not gotten all the possible info. Open CPU-z, click on the About Tab and at the bottom in the Tools Section, click on the Save Report (.txt) button. Save the report to the location of your choice (I save to Desktop) and go thru it. You may then find a more detailed EPP timings table....I do not know so,....please let me know what ya get.

    What I pasted to the screen is from the saved CPU-Z report. It was for one core, the other 3 cores are showing the same information. CPU-Z has always been this way for me with 2 sticks of memory or with 4 sticks installed. I even ask Nvidia if they knew of a tool which would report correctly on EPP enabled memory and am waiting on their reply. Things like Max bandwidth, and Nominal Voltage seem disassociated with my memory and appear generic as is JDEC. I will take another look but I believe all of the timing info is under the SPD section of the CPU-Z report.
     
    I would like to know the EPP 2.0 information because faster memory may run with tighter timings, than those published for rated memory speed, when it is set to run at lower than rated speed. Of course this is also depending on compatibility with combined memory kits and mother board tolerances. 
     
    If you want to see more of the saved report I can PM it to you so we don't use a lot of space in the thread. Let me know.
    EDIT: The CHIPSET SECTION of CPU-Z (inserted below) shows my current memory settings correctly.
    Chipset
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    Northbridge   NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI SPP rev. B1
    Southbridge   NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI MCP rev. A3
    Graphic Interface  PCI-Express
    PCI-E Link Width  x16
    PCI-E Max Link Width  x16
    Memory Type   DDR3
    Memory Size   8192 MBytes
    Channels   Dual
    Memory Frequency  666.7 MHz (1:2)
    CAS# latency (CL)  7.0
    RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 6
    RAS# Precharge (tRP)  6
    Cycle Time (tRAS)  16
    Bank Cycle Time (tRC)  40
    Command Rate (CR)  1T
     
    post edited by n9zn-extra - 2011/01/31 16:26:55
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