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2016/08/19 08:13:29 (permalink)
I just bought a EVGA 1080GTX Classified card after returning my 1070FTW. I got it open box at Microcenter for 714 (tax included).
 
The question I have is, the person who returned the card, returned it because "he bought the wrong card". Which I don't buy but call me skeptical. Is there  a way to check if this 1080 is a legit card and not something where he just removed a heatsink from a dead card and swapped it out with a bios flash? The card itself smelled like asian spices and was kinda grungy looking. All this in one day of ownership? Something doesn't look right. I am going to go home, pop it in and look at what gpuz says. Other than that, what can I do? I registered the card with EVGA no problem (best tech support!) The screws on the board looked like they were turned with a screwdriver and the thin heatsink material that comes extra with the card isn't there. I am thinking this guy did something or swapped something on on the board and returned it playing stupid. I hope this isn't true but just want to cover my bases and return it if necessary.
 
Just want to make sure the 714$ I spent was well worth it. Thanks guys! :)
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 08:21:26 (permalink)
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 08:35:11 (permalink)
    Don't have any at the moment. When I get home I will.
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 09:01:16 (permalink)
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    I just bought a EVGA 1080GTX Classified card after returning my 1070FTW. I got it open box at Microcenter for 714 (tax included).
     
    The question I have is, the person who returned the card, returned it because "he bought the wrong card". Which I don't buy but call me skeptical. Is there  a way to check if this 1080 is a legit card and not something where he just removed a heatsink from a dead card and swapped it out with a bios flash? The card itself smelled like asian spices and was kinda grungy looking. All this in one day of ownership? Something doesn't look right. I am going to go home, pop it in and look at what gpuz says. Other than that, what can I do? I registered the card with EVGA no problem (best tech support!) The screws on the board looked like they were turned with a screwdriver and the thin heatsink material that comes extra with the card isn't there. I am thinking this guy did something or swapped something on on the board and returned it playing stupid. I hope this isn't true but just want to cover my bases and return it if necessary.
     
    Just want to make sure the 714$ I spent was well worth it. Thanks guys! :)




    GPUZ is a good way to look under the hood
     
    Also, Speccy will give a nice peek
     
    Does the Serial Number on the BOX - match the serial number on the CARD ?
     
    But seriously, "kinda grungy looking. All this in one day of ownership? Something doesn't look right." -- BINGO
     
    Does not sound like a diamond in the rough - this thing was run hard - put away wet - Heatsink probably removed.
     
    At least EVGA will not void the warranty for the heatsink being removed - but it should make you wonder.
     
     
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 09:34:31 (permalink)
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    I just bought a EVGA 1080GTX Classified card after returning my 1070FTW. I got it open box at Microcenter for 714 (tax included).
     
    The question I have is, the person who returned the card, returned it because "he bought the wrong card". Which I don't buy but call me skeptical. Is there  a way to check if this 1080 is a legit card and not something where he just removed a heatsink from a dead card and swapped it out with a bios flash? The card itself smelled like asian spices and was kinda grungy looking. All this in one day of ownership? Something doesn't look right. I am going to go home, pop it in and look at what gpuz says. Other than that, what can I do? I registered the card with EVGA no problem (best tech support!) The screws on the board looked like they were turned with a screwdriver and the thin heatsink material that comes extra with the card isn't there. I am thinking this guy did something or swapped something on on the board and returned it playing stupid. I hope this isn't true but just want to cover my bases and return it if necessary.
     
    Just want to make sure the 714$ I spent was well worth it. Thanks guys! :)


    This made me LOL. Sorry. Unbelievable what some people do, how filthy they can be, and how quickly said filth spreads and sticks to something. Good luck. If it is indeed not a true Classified hopefully Microcenter can find the dude and do something. I seriously hate scammers, especially those who take advantage of MC, I love that store and want it to stick around. 

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 09:47:11 (permalink)
    If it had all these suspicious signs, why did you get it?
    Was it significantly cheaper than a closed box?
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 09:52:56 (permalink)
    $714 on a open box gpu? Never ever do that. With any gpu for that matter. Way to many scammers out there that take advantage. Their return policy is way to lenient and people abuse it. He bought the wrong card so he returns it? With it being opened as well? Yeah right. That is a red flag right there. I would have denied that jerks return. You should call Micro Center and let them know this guy scammed them at your cost. 

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 10:07:26 (permalink)
    Well I installed it, fired up the pc and started GPUZ. It looks ok. Boost clock and memory speeds check out. Had to clean up the card a bit. Freaking nasty. Smelled like my mother in laws kitchen who is from Laos. Food is excellent though ;)
     
    Other then being uhh...dirty, is there something I can do to verify this is a classified card? It only reports as being a 1080 in GPUZ with GDDRX memory. Does the "classified" moniker show up in any bios reporting tools? Or is that just a branding and not actually reported in stuff like GPUZ? Seems to check out. The card was 674$ plus tax. If this card works ok, I have no issue with it. Other than having to clean up the stank. Also what should the default BIOS name be? I want to make sure this thing wasn't flashed with Joe Bob Briggs custom bios.
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 10:16:27 (permalink)
    "If it had all these suspicious signs, why did you get it?
    Was it significantly cheaper than a closed box?"
     
    I didn't have the suspicions in the store. When I got out to my car and really looked at it I was like ****? I looked on google and can't even find the card on newegg or amazon. Whats up with that?
     
    For 674$ I thought it was a steal. I could be wrong though. 714$ was the final price. The card carries are 15 day return to Microcenter and the full 3 year evga warranty. So I will benchmark this thing and put it through it's paces. If it holds up, I'll keep it. If not I'll take it back.
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 10:22:32 (permalink)
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    Well I installed it, fired up the pc and started GPUZ. It looks ok. Boost clock and memory speeds check out. Had to clean up the card a bit. Freaking nasty. Smelled like my mother in laws kitchen who is from Laos. Food is excellent though ;)
     
    Other then being uhh...dirty, is there something I can do to verify this is a classified card? It only reports as being a 1080 in GPUZ with GDDRX memory. Does the "classified" moniker show up in any bios reporting tools? Or is that just a branding and not actually reported in stuff like GPUZ? Seems to check out. The card was 674$ plus tax. If this card works ok, I have no issue with it. Other than having to clean up the stank. Also what should the default BIOS name be? I want to make sure this thing wasn't flashed with Joe Bob Briggs custom bios.




     
    I'll repeat part of my post #4 - Does the Serial Number on the BOX - match the serial number on the CARD ?
     
     
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 10:29:02 (permalink)
    The Classified Card Dimensions should be 5.94" height x 10.5" Length due to the 14 + 3 Power Phase Design. It is the Only 1080 Card that Tall.

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 10:31:15 (permalink)
    I would never buy an open box, call me obsessive compulsive but that's just me.
    Commonest scenario is that the guy who bought it first found it a dud or crap overclocker and got rid of it abusing microcenter liberal return policy.

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 11:18:13 (permalink)
    "I'll repeat part of my post #4 - Does the Serial Number on the BOX - match the serial number on the CARD ?
    Also:
    If they do not match or EVGA serial number sticker is missing - Run, do not walk back to MC"
     
    Yes it all matches up. As long as I could register it and have the store return window and evgas warranty, I am happy. for 674$ before tax, I think it's a good deal.
     
    See what happens tonight when I run the gamut of tests against it. I don't mind open box because Microcenter is good with that stuff. But being good tends to open itself up to abuse.
     
    As of right now I am happy. The card is working like it should, leds work, gpuz checks out and the dimensions are correct. Temps are hovering near 29-31c with 20% on the fans. The thing did stink though. When I wiped it off it smelled like curry or something. Hope he didn't try to cook something on the pcb. Hey you never know ;)
     
    I'll keep you guys updated. And thanks for your help!
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 16:20:41 (permalink)
    It has two 8 pin power connectors right?
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 17:34:00 (permalink)
    What the heck is wrong with you? You are making racist comments by associating foul smell with Asians because of their choice of food/diet? Thats not right.
    Apart from that, I am sure the guy returned the classy because of poor overclock. Therefore, I am confident you have a genuine card, albeit, with a poor or average overclock.
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 18:53:32 (permalink)
    Maybe I skimmed this thing and missed the racist parts, but I just read him talking about a strong food odor. I don't recall him saying bad things about Asians. And yeah, some cultural foods are extremely strong smelling. Not saying it's good or bad, it just is. I once lived across the hallway from an Indian family, and every time they opened the door to their apartment the whole hallway was flooded with the smell of their extremely strongly spiced food. Not saying that's good or bad, it just is. In fact, I recall wondering at the time, what do we smell like to them?

    By the way, I quite like Indian food, and got some great recipes from an Indian coworker of mine once, and made them fairly often. But yeah, if he opened the box and it smelled like he'd just snorted a line of garam masala, there's a good chance the former owner was from that part of the world. 

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 19:08:10 (permalink)
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    What the heck is wrong with you? You are making racist comments by associating foul smell with Asians because of their choice of food/diet? Thats not right.
    Apart from that, I am sure the guy returned the classy because of poor overclock. Therefore, I am confident you have a genuine card, albeit, with a poor or average overclock.



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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/19 19:53:14 (permalink)
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    The Classified Card Dimensions should be 5.94" height x 10.5" Length due to the 14 + 3 Power Phase Design. It is the Only 1080 Card that Tall.


    what he said
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 05:14:46 (permalink)
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    What the heck is wrong with you? You are making racist comments by associating foul smell with Asians because of their choice of food/diet? Thats not right.
    Apart from that, I am sure the guy returned the classy because of poor overclock. Therefore, I am confident you have a genuine card, albeit, with a poor or average overclock.



    What exactly is racist about those comments? I would say the same had I purchased a card that smelt like fast food or English Fish & Chips. Calm down.
     
    As to the question, more or less what other people have asked:
     
    Are the dimensions correct?
    Do the serial numbers match exactly?
    Do all the features work as you expect?
     
    However, photographs would help a lot.

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 05:52:01 (permalink)
    I am about as far from being racist as can be. My wife is from Laos and I made the Asian comment because what was on the card smelled like my mother in laws kitchen, who uses spices from Laos (hence Asian spices) if it seemed like I generalized the smell of those spices to Asian people, it's because my mother in law, who is Asian, uses spices like that, from southeast Asia.
     
    Be careful when you call someone racist. Too many people like to jump out and say that when it's completely not true. Sorry if you took offense the way I typed that out. I didn't want to sound like that.
     
    Take care.
     
    Dimensions are correct, power sockets are correct, serial number checks out. Everything looks good in gpuz. Wondering what else I can do? It looks good from my end here. I'll take photos right now.
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 10:43:27 (permalink)
    Push the pedal to the metal.  What are the specs for the rest of your Rig ?
     
    Run some intensive benchmark and see if the GPU is strong.
     
    If you game at 1080P and lower setting for quality, your new 1080 GPU will Bottleneck any Host CPU. 
     
    If you run QHD with Max Quality settings -- the Load will shift to your GPU.  Giving CPU some room to breath.
     
    Issue is - not that your CPU is running that poorly; it's that your 1080 GPU runs that good.
     
    CPU intensive games will of course be limited by your processor.  However, most games are single thread, the software for most all consumer uses are Coded very Poorly for multi-core CPUs.
     
    So, give it a good shakedown run and publish your results.

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 11:05:49 (permalink)
    He more than likely returned it due to a poor overclock. As for it being dirty.. some people are just filthy. He probably decided to put different thermal paste on it to see if that would help the overclock and didn't wash his sticky food fingers before doing so.
     
    As others have said, though, I would NEVER buy an open box GPU, mobo, etc. It's just too risky. The same goes for Craigslist. I sell parts on there all the time, but I never buy. The only place I'll buy a used computer part is here at EVGA with someone who has previous rep.
     
    Even if that card seems to be working fine, I would return it and buy a new one here or at Newegg. With Pascal, they all OC right around 2040-2140MHz anyways. I just picked up a regular EVGA 1080 SC and it's doing 2139MHz just like the two previous 1080s I had. (EVGA 1080 FTW - Returned b/c No EK block) (PNY 1080 FE - Returned b/c dead display port)

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 11:19:41 (permalink)
    "He more than likely returned it due to a poor overclock. As for it being dirty.. some people are just filthy. He probably decided to put different thermal paste on it to see if that would help the overclock and didn't wash his sticky food fingers before doing so.
     
    As others have said, though, I would NEVER buy an open box GPU, mobo, etc. It's just too risky. The same goes for Craigslist. I sell parts on there all the time, but I never buy. The only place I'll buy a used computer part is here at EVGA with someone who has previous rep.
     
    Even if that card seems to be working fine, I would return it and buy a new one here or at Newegg. With Pascal, they all OC right around 2040-2140MHz anyways. I just picked up a regular EVGA 1080 SC and it's doing 2139MHz just like the two previous 1080s I had. (EVGA 1080 FTW - Returned b/c No EK block) (PNY 1080 FE - Returned b/c dead display port)"
     
     
     
    Well I am going to keep it. It's fully warrantied and I paid 674 for it. I am not too worried about the stank that was on it. I sometimes get grungy but am OCD around my stuff. I cleaned it off and it was working fine. If he was eating some pho or tasty tripe, I can't fault him ;) but it just seems to much happened to the card in one day of ownership. Time will tell I guess.
     
     
     
     
    "Push the pedal to the metal.  What are the specs for the rest of your Rig ?
     Run some intensive benchmark and see if the GPU is strong.
     If you game at 1080P and lower setting for quality, your new 1080 GPU will Bottleneck any Host CPU. 
     If you run QHD with Max Quality settings -- the Load will shift to your GPU.  Giving CPU some room to breath.
     Issue is - not that your CPU is running that poorly; it's that your 1080 GPU runs that good.
     CPU intensive games will of course be limited by your processor.  However, most games are single thread, the software for most all consumer uses are Coded very Poorly for multi-core CPUs.
     So, give it a good shakedown run and publish your results."
     
     
     
    Should I run games with nvidias DSR setting? I didn't know my cpu would be the bottleneck! It is a 6700k @ 4600mhz. I do game at 1080p but am now thinking of using DSR after hearing this. I thought that getting a 1080gtx for 1080p I would 1. future proof myself and 2. keep any AVERAGE framerate above 60fps if I enable vsync. I really do need a better monitor.
     
    Have to read up on how to overclock this thing. I guess I use precision x oc to do it all? Thanks! :)
     
     
    post edited by jarablue - 2016/08/20 11:38:37
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 11:45:51 (permalink)
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    "He more than likely returned it due to a poor overclock. As for it being dirty.. some people are just filthy. He probably decided to put different thermal paste on it to see if that would help the overclock and didn't wash his sticky food fingers before doing so.

    As others have said, though, I would NEVER buy an open box GPU, mobo, etc. It's just too risky. The same goes for Craigslist. I sell parts on there all the time, but I never buy. The only place I'll buy a used computer part is here at EVGA with someone who has previous rep.

    Even if that card seems to be working fine, I would return it and buy a new one here or at Newegg. With Pascal, they all OC right around 2040-2140MHz anyways. I just picked up a regular EVGA 1080 SC and it's doing 2139MHz just like the two previous 1080s I had. (EVGA 1080 FTW - Returned b/c No EK block) (PNY 1080 FE - Returned b/c dead display port)"
     
     
     
    Well I am going to keep it. It's fully warrantied and I paid 674 for it. I am not too worried about the stank that was on it. I sometimes get grungy but am OCD around my stuff. I cleaned it off and it was working fine. If he was eating some pho or tasty tripe, I can't fault him ;) but it just seems to much happened to the card in one day of ownership. Time will tell I guess.
     
     
     
     
    "Push the pedal to the metal.  What are the specs for the rest of your Rig ?
    Run some intensive benchmark and see if the GPU is strong.
    If you game at 1080P and lower setting for quality, your new 1080 GPU will Bottleneck any Host CPU. 
    If you run QHD with Max Quality settings -- the Load will shift to your GPU.  Giving CPU some room to breath.
    Issue is - not that your CPU is running that poorly; it's that your 1080 GPU runs that good.
    CPU intensive games will of course be limited by your processor.  However, most games are single thread, the software for most all consumer uses are Coded very Poorly for multi-core CPUs.
    So, give it a good shakedown run and publish your results."
     
     
     
    Should I run games with nvidias DSR setting? I didn't know my cpu would be the bottleneck! It is a 6700k @ 4600mhz. I do game at 1080p but am now thinking of using DSR after hearing this. I thought that getting a 1080gtx for 1080p I would 1. future proof myself and 2. keep any AVERAGE framerate above 60fps if I enable vsync. I really do need a better monitor.
     
    Have to read up on how to overclock this thing. I guess I use precision x oc to do it all? Thanks! :)
     
     


     
    Its not a 1080p card. Its not a 4k card either. Its a cross between 1080p/1440p. 1440p being better to get the full potential out of it. You should move to one ASAP. It will really make that card shine. I think 1080p is a complete waste for this card. Its not going to push it hard enough. Not even close. Or let it spread its wings. I myself was playing at 1920x1200 for 2 weeks when I got my new card. It was not going to cut the mustard for me. I knew the card could do so much more. 1440p is amazing with this card. If you planned to stay on 1080p though. The 1060 would have been best.  
    post edited by FattysGoneWild - 2016/08/20 11:51:42

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 11:47:52 (permalink)
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 11:52:51 (permalink)
    Open box from MC is fine in my book.
    Use the return period to test and if it is good you saved a few bucks if not back it goes.

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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 12:00:50 (permalink)
    Yeah I see. Well, I'll treat myself to a cmas present then. I'll start researching 144hertz gsync monitors to see what's out there. For now 1080p will have to be it. But I'll use the hell out of DSR.
     
    Thanks again :)
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 14:05:59 (permalink)
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    Re: Returned the 1070FTW and got a 1080 Classified...legit? 2016/08/20 18:02:46 (permalink)
    Gaming just fin on 4k with mine.... 
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