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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 01:38:39
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Gentlemen, what is the difference between 780 Classified and 780 SuperClocked ACX?
They have pretty much the same clocks?
Custom PCB vs Reference PCB 14 power phase vs 6+2 Power phase Bigger heatsink vs normal size heatsink EVBot Port vs none 8pin 8pin for a total of 300w(?) vs 265w (?) It really isn't the clock speeds you should be looking at if you're going to buy a Classified, Lightning, etc. Its all the other benefits (and downfalls) that these custom cards give you over reference design.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 02:41:37
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Hey Jacob, I got my two and have the EVbot on the way. Will it work out of the box with the 780 Classy?
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 05:57:43
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Rei86
Thought I asked but I guess I didnt?
When are we gonna see these on newegg/Amazon?
EVGA_JacobF
Jacob,
Thanks for the heads up on the time line!!! Do you have a ETA if and when other e-ratilers are going to be selling them?
Possibly next week or following, but I don't have very good visibility at this moment... will update when I have a better idea.
Here is your answer ATM...
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 06:04:08
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Hey Jacob, I got my two and have the EVbot on the way. Will it work out of the box with the 780 Classy?
He answered that question on the podcast yesterday. The EVbot will work on the 780 Classy after you update the drivers for it. Go here: http://www.evga.com/Produ...aspx?pn=100-EV-EB01-BR Click on the support tab and DL the newest drivers for it and you should be fine!!!
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 06:15:38
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Not to be mean or anything, but it's just plain wrong that anyone orders 2 gpu's in demand like these. Heck, if I wanted 2 of these. i'd have a heart and order one..then wait until the demand dropped, so others can grab one, as well.
This is ALL on evga, as they should limit the classified 780 to one per household. (at a time) Just like they do for the Titan's.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 06:21:31
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Jacob, when do you expect the next batch to get in stock?
(heck, I only want one of these)
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 06:26:41
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I totally forgot on EVBot, people talk how that is only 3D image of card and how card will not support that and I didn't look after that. I give money only for card and now is impossible to call and tell and for that. I must somehow find way to order that for few months because immediately and I don't need to high OC. Totally forgot on important thing. Now I read post and I rember, EVBot Nooo! If I can buy that in EVGA Europe that is under price for custom tax and it will no problem.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 07:02:07
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PhilipO48
This is ALL on evga, as they should limit the classified 780 to one per household. (at a time) Just like they do for the Titan's.
Seems like EVGA just can't win on this subject ...  When they have the "1 card per household" limit, there are complaints about not being able to purchase 2+ cards for SLI, ect ... ... when they don't have the 1 card limit, then the complaints are about not having the "1 card per household" limit ... 
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 07:16:05
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PhilipO48
This is ALL on evga, as they should limit the classified 780 to one per household. (at a time) Just like they do for the Titan's.
Seems like EVGA just can't win on this subject ...
When they have the "1 card per household" limit, there are complaints about not being able to purchase 2+ cards for SLI, ect ...
... when they don't have the 1 card limit, then the complaints are about not having the "1 card per household" limit ...
Solution is very simple though; up the production rate (= everyone happy). :)
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 08:23:52
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PhilipO48
This is ALL on evga, as they should limit the classified 780 to one per household. (at a time) Just like they do for the Titan's.
Seems like EVGA just can't win on this subject ...
When they have the "1 card per household" limit, there are complaints about not being able to purchase 2+ cards for SLI, ect ...
... when they don't have the 1 card limit, then the complaints are about not having the "1 card per household" limit ...
Solution is very simple though; up the production rate (= everyone happy). :)
I'm sure not a very big percentage of the chips can actually cut it as Classified chips. If they could then the cards wouldn't be very Classified.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 09:16:37
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Would we rather wait 3 weeks for EVGA to stock pile the cards, and then release a large batch so everyone can have as many as they want. Or give out a first come first serve upfront and then have a larger stock pile in three weeks.
I vote for first come first serve
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 09:29:42
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Look its not as if those of us that want the cards will not get them. I cannot get mine until NewEgg gets them from EVGA which is fine, if your current cards work who cares we get the card when we get it. The Extra time may allow EVGA to up the core clock on them or maybe add more VRAM who knows.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 10:57:14
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Look its not as if those of us that want the cards will not get them. I cannot get mine until NewEgg gets them from EVGA which is fine, if your current cards work who cares we get the card when we get it. The Extra time may allow EVGA to up the core clock on them or maybe add more VRAM who knows.
Niether of those is going to happen. There are certain ranges that the base and boost clocks have to be within of each other and 6 gigs of memory has already been confirmed as Titan only.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 11:03:49
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Andrew_K
thebski
MvdL79
jimrun
PhilipO48
This is ALL on evga, as they should limit the classified 780 to one per household. (at a time) Just like they do for the Titan's.
Seems like EVGA just can't win on this subject ...
When they have the "1 card per household" limit, there are complaints about not being able to purchase 2+ cards for SLI, ect ...
... when they don't have the 1 card limit, then the complaints are about not having the "1 card per household" limit ...
Solution is very simple though; up the production rate (= everyone happy). :)
I'm sure not a very big percentage of the chips can actually cut it as Classified chips. If they could then the cards wouldn't be very Classified.
That's what they want you to think. Put more voltage into even middle of the road chips and you'll get higher clocks :)
This information is not accurate. In other words, it is missing details/explanation and as a result is misinforming readers. Fact: - Every GPU is only warranted to run at the clocks specified/displayed on their detail/description page.
- Anything found in the forums that is not offered by EVGA directly, is individual findings in performance that is not a part of any warranty.
- Each model GPU offered has potential to overclock, with no guarantee it will.
- Each model GPU has the potential to overclock past the most expensive model offered.
- Each achieved higher overclock results in a performance gain. Buying a GPU that is set at 100mhz higher than the vanilla model is worth every penny to those looking for that performance gain.
Bottom line. If you want to buy a card to run at certain clock speeds offered from the models availible, buy that model or gamble with a cheaper model being able to maintain the higher clocks. That is the very reason Precision was created. To help those that want to "See" what their GPU(s) can do and maintain. It can be vanilla GPU's to the Classified on LN2.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 11:17:06
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Andrew_K
thebski
MvdL79
jimrun
PhilipO48
This is ALL on evga, as they should limit the classified 780 to one per household. (at a time) Just like they do for the Titan's.
Seems like EVGA just can't win on this subject ...
When they have the "1 card per household" limit, there are complaints about not being able to purchase 2+ cards for SLI, ect ...
... when they don't have the 1 card limit, then the complaints are about not having the "1 card per household" limit ...
Solution is very simple though; up the production rate (= everyone happy). :)
I'm sure not a very big percentage of the chips can actually cut it as Classified chips. If they could then the cards wouldn't be very Classified.
That's what they want you to think. Put more voltage into even middle of the road chips and you'll get higher clocks :)
This information is not accurate. In other words, it is missing details/explanation and as a result is misinforming readers.
Fact:
- Every GPU is only warranted to run at the clocks specified/displayed on their detail/description page.
- Anything found in the forums that is not offered by EVGA directly, is individual findings in performance that is not a part of any warranty.
- Each model GPU offered has potential to overclock, with no guarantee it will.
- Each model GPU has the potential to overclock past the most expensive model offered.
- Each achieved higher overclock results in a performance gain. Buying a GPU that is set at 100mhz higher than the vanilla model is worth every penny to those looking for that performance gain.
Bottom line. If you want to buy a card to run at certain clock speeds offered from the models availible, buy that model or gamble with a cheaper model being able to maintain the higher clocks. That is the very reason Precision was created. To help those that want to "See" what their GPU(s) can do and maintain. It can be vanilla GPU's to the Classified on LN2.
/sigh. I'm not a salesman for evga, nor do I dislike them. My point is, in general (and no, this is not "inaccurate information"), if you put more voltage into something, you can achieve higher clocks. Doesn't matter if we're talking processor, gpu, anything. Even a low tier quality chip can hit higher clock speeds with more voltage, it will just hit a ceiling faster with more voltage than other higher quality chips. Read about dynamic voltage and frequency scaling. There is science behind what I say. The simple fact of the matter is that luck of the draw on chip quality may decide to give you a vanilla 780 that is as good or better than a classified card. Just because you pay more for SC/Classy "stock guaranteed" overclock, you may actually achieve lower max clocks than a vanilla. It really just depends, as you well know. Ultimately this means you're paying for a chip that *may* be better quality (allowing better clocking), but the key is simply that you will be allowed to put more voltage into it. With these chips, that is more important than chip quality. Having both is great.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 11:25:34
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Andrew_K
/sigh. I'm not a salesman for evga, nor do I dislike them. My point is, in general (and no, this is not "inaccurate information"), if you put more voltage into something, you can achieve higher clocks. Doesn't matter if we're talking processor, gpu, anything. Even a low tier quality chip can hit higher clock speeds with more voltage, it will just hit a ceiling faster with more voltage than other higher quality chips. Read about dynamic voltage and frequency scaling. There is science behind what I say.
The simple fact of the matter is that luck of the draw on chip quality may decide to give you a vanilla 780 that is as good or better than a classified card. Just because you pay more for SC/Classy "stock guaranteed" overclock, you may actually achieve lower max clocks than a vanilla. It really just depends, as you well know.
Ultimately this means you're paying for a chip that *may* be better quality (allowing better clocking), but the key is simply that you will be allowed to put more voltage into it. With these chips, that is more important than chip quality. Having both is great.
Yep. This is true completely. Max OC does largely depend on the chip. Power is also a big deal though. If I got a GTX TITAN and an Epower not one of you guys would be able to touch the scores it would get, even on just water. Put cards on LN2 and the difference is even bigger. In terms of benefit for max OC.. Cooling > Power capability > Chip quality > Memory quality.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 11:28:23
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Andrew_K
/sigh. I'm not a salesman for evga, nor do I dislike them. My point is, in general (and no, this is not "inaccurate information"), if you put more voltage into something, you can achieve higher clocks. Doesn't matter if we're talking processor, gpu, anything. Even a low tier quality chip can hit higher clock speeds with more voltage, it will just hit a ceiling faster with more voltage than other higher quality chips. Read about dynamic voltage and frequency scaling. There is science behind what I say.
The simple fact of the matter is that luck of the draw on chip quality may decide to give you a vanilla 780 that is as good or better than a classified card. Just because you pay more for SC/Classy "stock guaranteed" overclock, you may actually achieve lower max clocks than a vanilla. It really just depends, as you well know.
Ultimately this means you're paying for a chip that *may* be better quality (allowing better clocking), but the key is simply that you will be allowed to put more voltage into it. With these chips, that is more important than chip quality. Having both is great.
Now that is more like it  Nicely done... Compare that explanation to your first one.  Night and day difference. That said, we are still talking about OVerclocking potential vs. warranted clocks... Two very different subjects and was the point I was trying to offer to your "That is what they want you to think" comment... *edit* Darn you Halo you beat me lol...
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 12:28:00
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Hey Jacob, I got my two and have the EVbot on the way. Will it work out of the box with the 780 Classy?
He answered that question on the podcast yesterday. The EVbot will work on the 780 Classy after you update the drivers for it.
Go here: http://www.evga.com/Produ...aspx?pn=100-EV-EB01-BR
Click on the support tab and DL the newest drivers for it and you should be fine!!!
Ok so the Classy drivers need to be up to date, got it. What about the firmware for the EVbot itself? Jacob posted that the firmware can now be updated using the GPU vs. only an EVGA MoBo in the past, does that still apply and is there firmware out that supports the 780 Classy?
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 12:45:31
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 12:55:12
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 13:06:13
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Is anyone aware of news around 3rd party waterblocks coming to the classy?
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 13:11:55
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I believe it's only with Swiftech. Don't know any other 3rd party company that makes classified waterblocks for them. Only reference waterblocks are made by everyone.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 13:14:06
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I believe it's only with Swiftech. Don't know any other 3rd party company that makes classified waterblocks for them. Only reference waterblocks are made by everyone.
Other companies make blocks for Lightnings, DCUII's, FTW, etc. Looking for any insight around potential classy support. I know someone asked EK about it and they gave it a definite "maybe".
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 14:17:10
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gtxjackbauer
I believe it's only with Swiftech. Don't know any other 3rd party company that makes classified waterblocks for them. Only reference waterblocks are made by everyone.
Other companies make blocks for Lightnings, DCUII's, FTW, etc. Looking for any insight around potential classy support. I know someone asked EK about it and they gave it a definite "maybe".
If you know people at EK, please let them know we would love an aftermarket cooler!!!!!! If they need to see a petition for blocks I am sure we could round up a good 100 people just on EVGA's forums.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 15:45:43
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gtxjackbauer
I believe it's only with Swiftech. Don't know any other 3rd party company that makes classified waterblocks for them. Only reference waterblocks are made by everyone.
Other companies make blocks for Lightnings, DCUII's, FTW, etc. Looking for any insight around potential classy support. I know someone asked EK about it and they gave it a definite "maybe".
But as I've already reported EK and Aquacomputer (AquaComputer is a defiant yes) are not making a WB for the MSI GTX 780 Lightning.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 15:59:30
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Any idea when the next batch of card will be for sale ? :)
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 16:03:40
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EVGA might only have an agreement with Swiftech for the Classifieds specifically. Haven't seen any other classified waterblocks from the others other than Swiftech.
You're right its not just reference the others also make. Sorry for the misinformation. I should know better. heh
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 16:05:22
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Yes, when is next batch?! I've gotten my 680 Classy's to 1411 boost. Want to play around with the 780's
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/17 16:07:58
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EVGA might only have an agreement with Swiftech for the Classified specifically. Haven't seen any other classified waterblocks from the others other than Swiftech.
You're right its not just reference the others also make. Sorry for the misinformation. I should know better. heh
Since no one at EVGA does not answer this question, I'm just gonna go off that they have an exclusive partnership with Swiftech for Classified blocks. Which EVGA might presue a block on other WB makers from making blocks for the Classified cards... which sucks since everyone else is IMO miles ahead of Swiftech.
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