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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 20:25:18
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I believe Jacob stated previously that it will not due to certain "compatibility errors".
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 20:50:08
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Lol no I was just kidding, I'm not going to buy one just to put it on eBay. I'm sure somebody will though.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 20:57:54
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Solar Trans Lol no I was just kidding, I'm not going to buy one just to put it on eBay. I'm sure somebody will though. there is always those few... they should diaf... figuratively speaking of course
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 21:14:31
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 21:27:34
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EVGA_JacobF http://www.evga.com/Produ...aspx?pn=03G-P4-3788-KR THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE!!! 699.99 for a Classified 780 WWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO So around 849.99 for the GTX 780 Classified HC? EDIT: and thank god, looks like you got rid of all the "Limit 1 per household" rule on the 780 series.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 21:28:53
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 21:38:53
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Solar Trans
Lol no I was just kidding, I'm not going to buy one just to put it on eBay. I'm sure somebody will though.
I was hoping you were just kidding -- everybody here had enough of that stuff with the last go-around of the Classies :)
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 21:40:01
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http://www.evga.com/Produ...aspx?pn=03G-P4-3788-KR
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE!!!
699.99 for a Classified 780 WWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So around 849.99 for the GTX 780 Classified HC?
I would say YES.... they should be right at $850.00
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 21:54:52
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damn... 40$ over sc acx... /facepalm figured it would have been a longer wait and higher price tag >.>
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/08 22:11:01
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So with my Evga bucks, either $380 for the ACX version or $530 for the Hydo. Guess it will come down to if the EVbot allows voltage over 1.2. Would be no point in this card really if it didn't, might as well get a FTW at that point and if it does, will probably need Hydro to keep temps from causing it to throttle.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 04:42:08
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EVGA_JacobF Hey guys, there is slim chance that we may get it very late this week, if not early next. QTY will be limited at first as expected.
I can share some more details though, the cards specs have been finalized, can see it here: http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/03G-P4-3788.pdf
Also the price will be right around $700.
That would probably mean, if the cards do actually become available in two weeks, that they will be available in Europe around eind of August probably. Seeing how slow the GTX 780 (SC) ACX was actually available in Europe. Well it will be two Classifieds or two Lightning's, depending on what become available for me first (through my favorite webshop). And EVGA: " Can you hear thunder rolling in?" :P //update Apparently the MSI Lightning will have a default GPU clock of 1100 Mhz? This makes me think; will "Lightning" strike down the Classified?
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 04:59:45
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may I ask where did you get the info that it will be 1100 Mhz ? becouse if its legit it will be one freakin card. nontheless I still like classy too :D and I am from europe too (czech republic to be specific) so I think end of august it is for us...
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 05:10:37
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Tweaktown mentioned it here. Dunno if it's trustworthy, but certainly a thing to look out for. If it's true and the Lightning will be available in Europe faster than the Classified, than I will be definetely making the switch to MSI this time. Warranty with MSI is also pretty good as far as I have experienced. But..., while typing this I re-read it and I have misread it, because and I quote: "With the stock MSI GTX 780 gaming edition's GK110 GPU being clocked in the 1.1GHz range, you can bet that the Lightning, which will be overclocked, will make even the most hardcore enthusiast smile!" It's related to the "simpler" version, the Gaming Edition of their GTX 780. However... 1100 Mhz is not true. Because it runs stock on 902 Mhz. Strange and misleading? Guess we will have to wait for real clock speeds of the Lightning in that case. //update Fixed incorrect link. My bad...
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 05:12:07
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Rei86 EVGA_JacobF THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE!!! 699.99 for a Classified 780 WWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO So around 849.99 for the GTX 780 Classified HC? EDIT: and thank god, looks like you got rid of all the "Limit 1 per household" rule on the 780 series. And for us Europeans that means $850 = 850€ again. Way to*Inappropriate language removed* treat your customers EVGA... *Warning, inappropriate language is a violation of our TOS. Offer your opinion all you like. Just refrain from the TOS violations please*
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 08:31:54
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if its only 700 and not 1000mhz, I don't see how the performance will be there beyond saying I have a classy. I am waiting for the lightning, sounds like they really pushing things at MSI.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 09:06:38
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Send Aquacomputer and Watercool Heatkiller samples and get real blocks made for it Jacob, PLEASE! I mean seriously, just looks and quality alone. Let's compare: Or, Attachments are not available: Download requirements not met Swiftec GPU blocks are a very compelling reason for me to just get the SC model instead. If I want to push overclocks, I can just get an Epower.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 09:18:20
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 09:21:44
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gtx 670 sli definitely beat this right?
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 09:25:12
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In regards to blocks, it's more the internals you should be concerned about comparing 3rd party blocks to the Hydrocoppers. (I would link the comparison photo, but I'm at work) That being said, unless there will be 3rd parties making blocks for the classy this time around, I'm going to be passing on the pure hassle that classies present.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 09:29:53
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Waiting to see the stats on the 780 lightning before i choose between the two... Benchmarks on the classy would be awesome if they appeared soon :)
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 09:32:19
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Andrew_K
In regards to blocks, it's more the internals you should be concerned about comparing 3rd party blocks to the Hydrocoppers. (I would link the comparison photo, but I'm at work) That being said, unless there will be 3rd parties making blocks for the classy this time around, I'm going to be passing on the pure hassle that classies present.
What kind of hassles?
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 09:40:37
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Lord Odin Andrew_K In regards to blocks, it's more the internals you should be concerned about comparing 3rd party blocks to the Hydrocoppers. (I would link the comparison photo, but I'm at work) That being said, unless there will be 3rd parties making blocks for the classy this time around, I'm going to be passing on the pure hassle that classies present. What kind of hassles? Availability of the cards themselves, availability and choice of water blocks, huge PCB that can be hard to install/uninstall (especially in multi GPU water setups) and/or interfere with case side fans, EVBot fixing voltage and requiring a restart to be dynamic again, etc. Classy's are awesome, but there are some drawbacks.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 09:45:48
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thebski Lord Odin Andrew_K In regards to blocks, it's more the internals you should be concerned about comparing 3rd party blocks to the Hydrocoppers. (I would link the comparison photo, but I'm at work) That being said, unless there will be 3rd parties making blocks for the classy this time around, I'm going to be passing on the pure hassle that classies present. What kind of hassles? Availability of the cards themselves, availability and choice of water blocks, huge PCB that can be hard to install/uninstall (especially in multi GPU water setups) and/or interfere with case side fans, EVBot fixing voltage and requiring a restart to be dynamic again, etc. Classy's are awesome, but there are some drawbacks. This. Also, from what I have seen with quality control issues on the Hydrocopper blocks, it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibilities that a year down the road you would start having major issues with the block, only to find out EVGA has discontinued it and no other company makes one. GL with that. I don't mind availability issues of the cards themselves as much as I care about all of the complications they present down the road. Additionally, EVBot is great for benching, but not great for anything else really. I found myself not using it at all after doing benches on the 680's because it was more of a pain than it was worth. In the 680 days at least classies were a step up in vram as well, but now seeing that they aren't (brb Titan) you can pay an additional $40-50 for the "Classified" gimmick. Marketing hypes up all the extra power phases, larger this and that, etc. which really don't matter as the card is hard capped on voltage anyway.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 09:59:24
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Andrew_K thebski Lord Odin Andrew_K In regards to blocks, it's more the internals you should be concerned about comparing 3rd party blocks to the Hydrocoppers. (I would link the comparison photo, but I'm at work) That being said, unless there will be 3rd parties making blocks for the classy this time around, I'm going to be passing on the pure hassle that classies present. What kind of hassles? Availability of the cards themselves, availability and choice of water blocks, huge PCB that can be hard to install/uninstall (especially in multi GPU water setups) and/or interfere with case side fans, EVBot fixing voltage and requiring a restart to be dynamic again, etc. Classy's are awesome, but there are some drawbacks. This. Also, from what I have seen with quality control issues on the Hydrocopper blocks, it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibilities that a year down the road you would start having major issues with the block, only to find out EVGA has discontinued it and no other company makes one. GL with that. I don't mind availability issues of the cards themselves as much as I care about all of the complications they present down the road. Additionally, EVBot is great for benching, but not great for anything else really. I found myself not using it at all after doing benches on the 680's because it was more of a pain than it was worth. In the 680 days at least classies were a step up in vram as well, but now seeing that they aren't (brb Titan) you can pay an additional $40-50 for the "Classified" gimmick. Marketing hypes up all the extra power phases, larger this and that, etc. which really don't matter as the card is hard capped on voltage anyway. Yep! This is exactly why I'm thinking hard on just getting an SC model.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 10:01:43
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Andrew_K "Classified" gimmick. Marketing hypes up all the extra power phases, larger this and that, etc. which really don't matter as the card is hard capped on voltage anyway. Just an opinion here... If Classified is a gimmick. Than so is SC, FTW ETC. While I do not agree with your opinion. I do understand the frustration that Nvidia has placed on those wanting to max their GPU (Voltage limiter). However, that has nothing to do with any kind of gimmick. The 14+3 Power Phase makes a difference to me. The "Factory guaranteed" clocks make a difference to me. And even though the FTW has it, the dual BIOS is an Item I really enjoy. The Larger cooling surface makes a difference for me. So for my $40... That is money I am willing to spend at this time for those features. Now if I did not care about more than the higher clocks... The SC ACX model is one sweet deal for only $10 more and 100+ higher clock than the Vanilla version... That does not mean you should agree with me BTW. I am just offering a different opinion...
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 10:02:46
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Andrew_K
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Andrew_K
In regards to blocks, it's more the internals you should be concerned about comparing 3rd party blocks to the Hydrocoppers. (I would link the comparison photo, but I'm at work) That being said, unless there will be 3rd parties making blocks for the classy this time around, I'm going to be passing on the pure hassle that classies present.
What kind of hassles?
Availability of the cards themselves, availability and choice of water blocks, huge PCB that can be hard to install/uninstall (especially in multi GPU water setups) and/or interfere with case side fans, EVBot fixing voltage and requiring a restart to be dynamic again, etc.
Classy's are awesome, but there are some drawbacks.
This. Also, from what I have seen with quality control issues on the Hydrocopper blocks, it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibilities that a year down the road you would start having major issues with the block, only to find out EVGA has discontinued it and no other company makes one. GL with that.
I don't mind availability issues of the cards themselves as much as I care about all of the complications they present down the road. Additionally, EVBot is great for benching, but not great for anything else really. I found myself not using it at all after doing benches on the 680's because it was more of a pain than it was worth.
In the 680 days at least classies were a step up in vram as well, but now seeing that they aren't (brb Titan) you can pay an additional $40-50 for the "Classified" gimmick. Marketing hypes up all the extra power phases, larger this and that, etc. which really don't matter as the card is hard capped on voltage anyway.
So true honestly without the extra ram and the moderate clocks it seems a little week for there classy I mean yes it going to have extra power and Hand Pick PCB boards but really how much more performance is it going to be than that of the GTX 780 SC that already pretty nice itself and were those the FTW come in at is really only going to be a higher clocked SC and at what price range thinking 679 VS 699 for the Classy.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 10:12:12
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Afterburner Andrew_K "Classified" gimmick. Marketing hypes up all the extra power phases, larger this and that, etc. which really don't matter as the card is hard capped on voltage anyway. Just an opinion here... If Classified is a gimmick. Than so is SC, FTW ETC. While I do not agree with your opinion. I do understand the frustration that Nvidia has placed on those wanting to max their GPU (Voltage limiter). However, that has nothing to do with any kind of gimmick. The 14+3 Power Phase makes a difference to me. The "Factory guaranteed" clocks make a difference to me. And even though the FTW has it, the dual BIOS is an Item I really enjoy. The Larger cooling surface makes a difference for me. So for my $40... That is money I am willing to spend at this time for those features. Now if I did not care about the higher clocks... The SC ACX model is one sweet deal for only $10 more and 100+ higher clock than the Vanilla version... That does not mean you should agree with me BTW. I am just offering a different opinion... Well they Kind of are if you really think about I mean the Classy is not as it is a new card built up but the. Vanilla, SC, FTW, FTW-, and the FTW + are Gimmicks from the way everything works with these new cards, it luck of the draw on whether you get a card say Vanilla that can O.C. faster than a SC version and you can get an SC that will not clock higher than what it comes clocked. So really your just paying for the guaranteed clocks and nothing more which it might be worth it and it might not at that what I think.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 10:13:37
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Afterburner Andrew_K "Classified" gimmick. Marketing hypes up all the extra power phases, larger this and that, etc. which really don't matter as the card is hard capped on voltage anyway. Just an opinion here... If Classified is a gimmick. Than so is SC, FTW ETC. While I do not agree with your opinion. I do understand the frustration that Nvidia has placed on those wanting to max their GPU (Voltage limiter). However, that has nothing to do with any kind of gimmick. The 14+3 Power Phase makes a difference to me. The "Factory guaranteed" clocks make a difference to me. And even though the FTW has it, the dual BIOS is an Item I really enjoy. The Larger cooling surface makes a difference for me. So for my $40... That is money I am willing to spend at this time for those features. Now if I did not care about the higher clocks... The SC ACX model is one sweet deal for only $10 more and 100+ higher clock than the Vanilla version... That does not mean you should agree with me BTW. I am just offering a different opinion... While you did describe some of the benefits, the negatives I mentioned greatly outweigh a 30mhz factory overclock (for all intents and purposes). I'm not quite sure how "The 14+3 Power Phase makes a difference" to you. It makes you feel better about the card? That it could be getting more/cleaner power? This is marketing. They want you to think it "makes a difference to you." Does it really? Sure in theory it is better to have more power phases, but does this make a substantive difference? The past shows a resounding "no" for many reasons experienced by users. Dual bios' is a great feature. One that I'd like to have over not having. However if I'm locked into a proprietary waterblock that may or may not exist in a year, overclocking and overvolting with a system that is not practical to use on a day-to-day basis, and a difficult time just getting the cards to boot, I see a stronger argument to not get the classified than to get one. The irony surrounding it is that the Classified would like to be the big overclocker that is hungry for a nice watercooling setup. However for many reasons I presented, it would be much preferred (in my opinion) to stay on air cooling (which would not lend it maximum performance). Quite a conundrum.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 10:21:26
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asmodyus Well they Kind of are if you really think about I mean the Classy is not as it is a new card built up but the. Vanilla, SC, FTW, FTW-, and the FTW + are Gimmicks from the way everything works with these new cards, it luck of the draw on whether you get a card say Vanilla that can O.C. faster than a SC version and you can get an SC that will not clock higher than what it comes clocked. So really your just paying for the guaranteed clocks and nothing more which it might be worth it and it might not at that what I think. Agreed. And that is my point. EVGA tries to have multiple GPU offerings for those who are looking for what "They" want. Or at least as close as they can get. I do not agree with "Gimmick" for this reason. You are getting more clocks/feature etc for the cost. Just like we do when we buy a vehicle. Multiple models, find the one with the feature(s) you want. A gimmick to me is this... Same specs, different stickers for a higher cost.
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Re:Release date of GTX 780 Classified
2013/07/09 10:26:52
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Afterburner
asmodyus
Well they Kind of are if you really think about I mean the Classy is not as it is a new card built up but the. Vanilla, SC, FTW, FTW-, and the FTW + are Gimmicks from the way everything works with these new cards, it luck of the draw on whether you get a card say Vanilla that can O.C. faster than a SC version and you can get an SC that will not clock higher than what it comes clocked. So really your just paying for the guaranteed clocks and nothing more which it might be worth it and it might not at that what I think.
Agreed. And that is my point. EVGA tries to have multiple GPU offerings for those who are looking for what "They" want. Or at least as close as they can get.
I do not agree with "Gimmick" for this reason. You are getting more clocks/feature etc for the cost. Just like we do when we buy a vehicle. Multiple models, find the one with the feature(s) you want.
A gimmick to me is this... Same specs, different stickers for a higher cost.
I would have to agree but it did seem a little gimmicky when you have a SC, SCC, FTW, FTW- and FTW+ etc.... there were so many different 680 that it seemed to many variations of the same cards -/+ 5% on the clocks. that were I think it gets a little gimmicky for me at least. Other than ya I would agree you purchase the guaranteed clock for set price.
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