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I just received 2 brand new retail replacement 1080 FE and i noticed there isn't any nvidia marking serial..ect like my prev cards. So i look further and notice the PCB doesn't even have the nvidia logo by the PCIE connection. So i take it evga is still cherry picking FE for better cards even though they have there own reference PCB now? Or these are not really new FE? Why would you guys take out the nvidia reference board and put your own inside? They seem to run fine they obviously don't overclock well. Starting to think i should just deal with nvidia directly as they don't pull these kinds of shenanigans with pre OC cards pics top is new bottom is old card. You can see the nvidia logo missing from top this is an EVGA manufactured reference board.  the nvidia info was removed from backplate  UPDATE* I talked to EVGA they gave me a call and explained that they are making FE also.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:17:58
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:20:00
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FE are manufactured by nvidia not EVGA They are sold as OEM to AIB partners.
No reason why this should have board that isnt nvidia branded.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:21:40
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demo23019
FE are manufactured at nvidia not EVGA They are sold as OEM to AIB partners.
My point exactly.  demo23019
So i take it evga is still cherry picking FE for better cards even though they have there own reference PCB now? Or these are not really new FE?
Why would you guys take out the nvidia reference board and put your own inside? They seem to run fine they obviously don't overclock well. Starting to think i should just deal with nvidia directly as they don't pull these kinds of shenanigans with pre OC cards
Guess I do not understand you OP 
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:23:42
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My issue is that this should have nvidia branded PCB.
EVGA took it out and stuck their own inside.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:26:01
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demo23019
My issue is that this should have nvidia branded PCB.
EVGA took it out and stuck their own inside.
 EVGA may have enough Pull with Nvidia - to get them to "white label" the product. (remove manufactures labels / markings --- we do it all the time) Changing the PCB would not be cost effective post production. What would EVGA do with all the "Nvidia PCBs" ?
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:28:41
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clearly you are not getting the point.
Im done discussing this is shady stuff they pull.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:31:39
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You need to cover (remove) the Serial Numbers from your Images/Photos before you Post them. I can read the Bar Codes is why I posted.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:32:38
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:40:48
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demo23019
clearly you are not getting the point.
Im done discussing this is shady stuff they pull.
You could try bringing this to the attention of nVidia and see what they say about this. Personally I have never received a video board from EVGA that performed as well as it was advertised. You will find more unethical shady 'stuff' if you look hard enough like rebranding a failed GTX-980 ti Classified video board and reselling it as a Classified with reference board clock speeds. They got me good on that trick.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 12:41:31
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demo23019
they are removed
Yep Good to go,
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 13:19:04
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demo23019
they are removed
Yep Good to go,
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 13:20:12
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I would contact Nvidia and ask about this. I see no reason for them to be doing this. If they are doing this and using their own boards. Selling as the actual FE cost and its not the real deal. Not cool.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 13:27:05
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I would contact Nvidia and ask about this. I see no reason for them to be doing this.
If the original FE board overclocked really well it would get a SC shroud and S/N slapped on it and sold for more money. That might be why his FE boards don't OC. They got swapped out and rebranded?
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 13:32:37
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There have been other threads and discussion on this. It would be nice to get an official response. People keep flaming me for saying it, but I'm rather certain that these are all NVIDIA boards made by Foxcon or Flextronics that simply don't have the NVIDIA logo because they are also used for the OEM manufacturers like Dell or HP and they are providing them to the AIB partners as well instead of them producing there own so that there are no board revisions. I think the original runs from the Taiwan factories had the logo and the runs from the China factories do not.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 13:59:11
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There have been other threads and discussion on this. It would be nice to get an official response. People keep flaming me for saying it, but I'm rather certain that these are all NVIDIA boards made by Foxcon or Flextronics that simply don't have the NVIDIA logo because they are also used for the OEM manufacturers like Dell or HP and they are providing them to the AIB partners as well instead of them producing there own so that there are no board revisions. I think the original runs from the Taiwan factories had the logo and the runs from the China factories do not.
+1 Sound like my "white label" theory -- better detail Unless the are counterfeit 
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 14:44:08
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I'm confused. What exactly is the problem here? Is it really just that there isn't an Nvidia stocker on the PCB?
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 15:01:34
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I'm confused. What exactly is the problem here? Is it really just that there isn't an Nvidia stocker on the PCB?
Yes, the OP believes they were shortchanged because "Nvidia" was not printed /does not appear on the PCB From Post #5, OP wrote demo23019
My issue is that this should have nvidia branded PCB.
EVGA took it out and stuck their own inside.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 15:15:17
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shady indeed. belief/speculation or not, it is not something necessary at all and has not been listed as a change for whatever reason. These are things people notice and this is the result. If the production changes, the labeling needs to as well or at least provide a news letter stating why and what changes were made. It's pretty obvious SOMETHING was changed... but who knows what? Could be a major issue they addressed and said nothing in hopes no one would RMA. Like a car manufacturer avoiding recall. No difference at all.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 15:15:47
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Ah, I think I'm getting it. They think that EVGA makes reference PCBs that apparently suck, and that the Nvidia-branded reference PCBs are awesome, and that EVGA is pulling the Nvidia PCBs out so they can be used in other EVGA cards, and replacing them in the FE cards with the allegedly sucky EVGA PCBs.
What's interesting is that the FTW and Classified cards are also EVGA cards, and not reference PCBs, and they apparently don't suck. I'm curious why the OP thinks an EVGA-produced reference PCB would suck. Also, that EVGA would pay someone to dismantle FE cards to cannibalize the PCBs I think is ludicrous. The labor costs of doing this would wipe out whatever profit gains they might be expected to make.
So, other than the lack of Nvidia sticker on the PCB, on what evidence is this conspiracy theory* based?
*not that conspiracy theories are ever actually based on evidence, but we should at least ask...
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 15:17:07
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nobody said anything about it 'sucking'... a change was made and nobody knows why. I highly doubt with any of these companies revenues and lifespan of the release at these prices would hinder their marketing ploys or their profit margin.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 15:18:11
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sethleigh
Ah, I think I'm getting it. They think that EVGA makes reference PCBs that apparently suck, and that the Nvidia-branded reference PCBs are awesome, and that EVGA is pulling the Nvidia PCBs out so they can be used in other EVGA cards, and replacing them in the FE cards with the allegedly sucky EVGA PCBs.
What's interesting is that the FTW and Classified cards are also EVGA cards, and not reference PCBs, and they apparently don't suck. I'm curious why the OP thinks an EVGA-produced reference PCB would suck. Also, that EVGA would pay someone to dismantle FE cards to cannibalize the PCBs I think is ludicrous. The labor costs of doing this would wipe out whatever profit gains they might be expected to make.
So, other than the lack of Nvidia sticker on the PCB, on what evidence is this conspiracy theory* based?
*not that conspiracy theories are ever actually based on evidence, but we should at least ask...
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 15:25:37
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nobody said anything about it 'sucking'... a change was made and nobody knows why. To paraphrase a certain prominent contemporary politician, "I'm hearing many people say that EVGA made a change in their FE cards and nobody knows why. I'm not saying there's an actual problem here, I just don't know, but many people are asking if there is." So in other words, what you're saying is that you've got no evidence that there's any problem whatsoever with the EVGA Founders Edition cards, but you're willing to promote a very conspiracy-esque suggestion that maybe there is. As with any manufacturing process, over time there may be tweaks in packaging, small parts (they change a source for some component or whatever), etc. and that isn't announced because it simply isn't a big deal. So long as the card's specs remain the same and the card meets those specs, there's really nothing to announce. I'm constantly mystified by this fairly common theme that somehow EVGA or NVidia or whoever is out to screw someone. What they're actually out to do is make money, and to please their customers enough to maintain the brand loyalty they've earned for over a decade so that they can continue to make money in the future. I think they're doing just fine.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 15:36:19
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there are plenty of problems lol. coil whine, oc issues, fluctuation... get real. thankfully most are being handled through driver updates but there are issues and there always will be. why do you think they have RMA's?
make money? you mean like avoiding a recall? they are doing just fine, it would simply please some people to know what they are changing. Stop making this about politics and conspiracies and open your eyes. a change was made.... how can you argue that? do you know WHAT change was made other than what you see here? no... that is why this thread exists. move along sir.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 15:38:32
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pfft...the OP is ....clearly just looking for something to whine about.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 16:04:48
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Guys im not saying EVGA pcb are bad they are not. But when you buy a FE thinking well sc has their own PCB they wont be cherry picking FE and then receive FE with a EVGA board it sets red flags. EVGA used FE PCB when 1080 sc first came out but now they have their own PCB you can look at unbocking vid from before and now and see they no longer use nvidia PCB. I got 2 new cards both not using nvidia PCB and nvidia markings removed from backplate So far they seem fine so not bad thing. transdogmifier
pfft...the OP is ....clearly just looking for something to whine about.
you clearly don't get the point im making and most wouldn't even noticed but now you do.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 16:11:52
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 17:20:04
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This is normal. Sajin did a whole thread on this. At first the boards were produced by NVIDIA due to the release. It gave EVGA time to manufacture there own boards. Now that things have settled a bit. EVGA had had time to manufacture instead of sourcing through NVIDIA. Why buy a board to be a middle man when they can just source there own.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 17:49:16
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This is normal. Sajin did a whole thread on this. At first the boards were produced by NVIDIA due to the release. It gave EVGA time to manufacture there own boards. Now that things have settled a bit. EVGA had had time to manufacture instead of sourcing through NVIDIA. Why buy a board to be a middle man when they can just source there own.
They do this for their version of the 'reference' board cards, yes, until they can produce their own. In this particular instance, however, a FE is supposed to be produced by NVIDIA and simply boxed and warrantied by the AIB partner. Period. But I am still of the belief that this is an NVIDIA board anyway.
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Re: Recieved 2 1080 FE with evga PCB
2016/08/22 19:08:10
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MikeBGeyer
This is normal. Sajin did a whole thread on this. At first the boards were produced by NVIDIA due to the release. It gave EVGA time to manufacture there own boards. Now that things have settled a bit. EVGA had had time to manufacture instead of sourcing through NVIDIA. Why buy a board to be a middle man when they can just source there own.
In this particular instance, however, a FE is supposed to be produced by NVIDIA and simply boxed and warrantied by the AIB partner. Period.
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