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I installed the new gulftown 6 cores CPU i7 970 on the X58 3x SLI Classified and this CPU runs fine but the turbo mode doesn't work : the multiplier stays at 24x (without turbo) I flashed the bios to the latest version but it doesn't change anything. What do i do to fix that ? Thanks for answers...
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2010/08/11 15:13:28
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What turbo mode are you using the one in the the cpu feature or the main selection of features for cpu/ram/voltages? the one that should be enabled is the one in the cpu feature, the other one in the main screen with voltage, ram, your multiplier and so on should be disabled. Also you will not notice it normally until you get into windows in cpuz , eleet or intels proccessor ID utility. In the bios the multi I do believe with turbo enabled stays at 24. If the option is grayed out in the cpu feature for enabling turbo you may want to disconnect all power from the board, for a couple hours, and hit the bios reset a couple times for 5-10 seconds at a time to make sure your bios is cleared out, if it is still grayed out you need to call evga and be like look your bios there is something wrong with it, turbo mode under cpu features is still greyed out and I cannot enable it.... need a new bios done and post on the forums about it, even post screenies that should get someones attention.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2010/08/12 02:19:31
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Thanks for your reply donta1979. I use the one in the cpu feature, the other one always disabled. Perhaps a new bios version will fix that This new CPU is not in the support list yet...
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2010/08/12 02:52:34
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There were some hype about that CPU currently not supported. Send a ticket to EVGA about this problem.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2010/08/12 08:24:51
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I would do both send in a ticket and call.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/01/14 22:21:31
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I have the same problem... Are they going to come out with a new bios for our boards? Anyone heard anything yet?
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/01/14 22:37:20
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SGT.ASYLUM I have the same problem... Are they going to come out with a new bios for our boards? Anyone heard anything yet? Are you running your OC with your multiplier past stock?
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/01/14 23:30:14
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SGT.ASYLUM I have the same problem... Are they going to come out with a new bios for our boards? Anyone heard anything yet? I had an issue with turbo initially not working until I disabled speed step in the bios. I forgot all about it when I was tinkering with my 970. All though I have a E758 X58 board, you may want to look and make sure you've disabled it. NVM, I think Hemi is correct. If I recall correctly when I was helping my friend overclock his system with a i7 975X turbo did not work if you increased the multi beyond what it comes with at stock. For instance, stock multi was 25 and would turbo up to 26 if left alone. But as soon as we upped the multi to 26, turbo no longer kicked in.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/01/16 08:34:33
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24 is as high as my multi goes on my 970. I can enable turbo and it shows the speed increase in bios but after you boot up it stays the same speed as before. I am running the latest bios also.
post edited by SGT.ASYLUM - 2011/01/17 08:47:01
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/01/17 10:00:56
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i'm having this same problems, could evga please look into this
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/01/18 21:44:22
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Same here...I might email Jacob.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/01/20 21:06:46
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Mt turbo mode isn't working on my 759 board either with my 970 installed. it used to work fine though. -sigh- I demand a bios fix XD
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/04 12:49:19
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Did a fix ever come out for this? I am having the same problem.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/04 13:15:05
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 07:15:46
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A hard mod is required. http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9942&postcount=21
That is the mod for being able to run Westemere chips. You can get turbo by enabling C-states of 3 or 6. I think you can get away with just 6, but I know for sure 3 worked. You may also have to turn on speedstep to get it to work. Though under heavy load, it will drop back to 24. Some where I read about a setting in the bios that controls the load level setting for dropback, but it was early on in my search for turning on the trubo, and I didn't write down what the setting was.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 09:11:21
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torin3 zalbard A hard mod is required. http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9942&postcount=21 That is the mod for being able to run Westemere chips. You can get turbo by enabling C-states of 3 or 6. I think you can get away with just 6, but I know for sure 3 worked. You may also have to turn on speedstep to get it to work. Though under heavy load, it will drop back to 24. Some where I read about a setting in the bios that controls the load level setting for dropback, but it was early on in my search for turning on the trubo, and I didn't write down what the setting was. Gulftown is Westmere...one of the mods is required to run Turbo. C-states make no difference. I ought to know, I fixed this exact problem on my E759.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 11:56:23
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Gulftown is Westmere...one of the mods is required to run Turbo. C-states make no difference. I ought to know, I fixed this exact problem on my E759.
Yes and no. Gulftown = i7 hex core chips, Westmere = Dual QPI Xeons. If you see the first post in the thread that was linked: http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=599 Shammy is saying that Gulftowns are ok, but the mod is needed for Westmeres. I've got a E762 right now, with no mods that can run turbo, but only if the C-State is 3 or 6. Would you like a CPUZ screenshot? The board is over a year old. It was purchased in February of 2010.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 13:25:29
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torin3 dejanh Gulftown is Westmere...one of the mods is required to run Turbo. C-states make no difference. I ought to know, I fixed this exact problem on my E759. Yes and no. Gulftown = i7 hex core chips, Westmere = Dual QPI Xeons. If you see the first post in the thread that was linked: http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=599 Shammy is saying that Gulftowns are ok, but the mod is needed for Westmeres. I've got a E762 right now, with no mods that can run turbo, but only if the C-State is 3 or 6. Would you like a CPUZ screenshot? The board is over a year old. It was purchased in February of 2010. Wrong, Westmere is architecture, and "Gulftown" and "Westmere Xeon" are both Westmere architecture (desktop vs. server, you can read here for your reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulftown but Intel whitepapers and datasheets say the same thing) The reason why Peter says "Gulftown is ok" is because Gulftown required only a BIOS change to run as it is a single QPI-link chip. Westmere Xeons mentioned in that thread are dual QPI-link so they have to have a mod done in order to be able to even boot on these boards. With that said not every board will require this change, some have been shipped with the change in place.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 17:50:48
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Dejanh is correct, as I also had to have Shannon Robb at EVGA Tech Support Modify my Classified E760 to gain Turbo Mode and a 25X Multiplier both, and that is the ONLY way to enable the 970 CPU's Turbo mode on the pre-Classified E770 boards. I have done extensive research into this subject as you might imagine, and what happens according to Shannon Robb at EVGA Tech Support is that there needs to be a "negative bias resistor" installed up by the CPU Capsule area, where there's a "positive bias resistor" installed OEM from EVGA. I am afraid you are going to have to put your board through the hardware Modification Program at EVGA--and you get that done by submitting the problem to EVGA Tech Support and they handle everything. They paid for shipping BOTH WAYS for my board, don't know if this is SOP or not, but they did with my situation. Good luck, and there's your answer twice now, from Dejanh and myself both, as we both had the Mod done to our boards. rexrzer77
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 18:20:53
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Dejanh is correct, as I also had to have Shannon Robb at EVGA Tech Support Modify my Classified E760 to gain Turbo Mode and a 25X Multiplier both, and that is the ONLY way to enable the 970, 980, and 990X Turbo mode on the pre-Classified E770 boards.
Ok, if I need to have this done to get the 25x multi, why am I seeing this: Edit: Reading up some more, I now see what is going on. Apparently this is probably due to the recent bios flash letting me partially access the turbo function, but not fully. It will still need the hardware mod. Since I've got it under warranty, I'll go ahead and send it in. Reading your other post about them fixing the memory timings too, it would also explain some weirdness I've been experiencing that I through was due to a ram chip dying. Thanks.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 18:34:29
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torin3 rexrzer77 Dejanh is correct, as I also had to have Shannon Robb at EVGA Tech Support Modify my Classified E760 to gain Turbo Mode and a 25X Multiplier both, and that is the ONLY way to enable the 970, 980, and 990X Turbo mode on the pre-Classified E770 boards. Ok, if I need to have this done to get the 25x multi, why am I seeing this: The utilities report erroneously until you get the Modification done to your board, and then they report the correct multiplier ratio....my memory and CPU displays were also reporting that I had the 25X available before the Mod when I did not, using ELEET and CPU-Z both, sorry to say. It is confusing I know, but you don't have the multiplier nor do you have Turbo boost at this time, correct? It's just the utility being wrong, that is all you are showing me here. rexrzer77 
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 18:39:49
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 19:00:34
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Actually, from reading up on some of the other threads about this, I have a few more questions. The two solder pads that are in the third position down below C527 can be connected with graphite/pencil and it will fix this, and not void the warranty? Will this also solve the memory issues you reported? And I could also solder it and not void the warranty, as long as no damage was done to the board? (My soldering skills are up to the task.) I'd really rather not take off the motherboard block to put the stock cooling back on if I didn't have to.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/19 20:42:44
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torin3 Actually, from reading up on some of the other threads about this, I have a few more questions. The two solder pads that are in the third position down below C527 can be connected with graphite/pencil and it will fix this, and not void the warranty? Will this also solve the memory issues you reported? And I could also solder it and not void the warranty, as long as no damage was done to the board? (My soldering skills are up to the task.) I'd really rather not take off the motherboard block to put the stock cooling back on if I didn't have to. We'd all rather not have things "their way" when it comes to things like this Modification to our boards, but it's the only salvation that works this time. The "graphite mod" does NOT cure the problem 100% nor does it cure the memory timing and reporting abnormalities that are caused by the new CPU configurations, and the board's lack of hardware to deal with them. If you have any doubts at all I'd suggest that you simply call EVGA Tech Support and ask for any Tier 2 Tech, and one of them could thoroughly explain things perhaps better than I am doing here tonight. I don't want to speak for EVGA, I can only speak for myself and how fantastic the service was that EVGA gave me for this Mod, and how quickly it went down (less than 5 days total time from my house to EVGA and back to my house, Modification accomplished!), and knowing that Shannon Robb himself was actually doing the Mods to my board was very assuring, as I know Shannon from other matters at EVGA, and he's top level when it comes to being on top of things for our boards, their product abilities, their changes if any that need to be done to accommodate the new CPU's, and especially his ability to do things right as rain quickly, and with some sense of urgency and professionalism. If you want to by all means call Shannon at EVGA during regular business hours, or write him at his EVGA email address, which is: srobb@evga.com and he'll take the time to answer you fully if you have questions, and he will be able to thoroughly educate you about the changes and why they are necessary with these boards. It is not advisable to attempt this Mod yourself, words to the wise. Please feel free to refer to our discussion here tonight also when you talk to EVGA Tech Support, or Shannon himself, don't hesitate to mention my name also if you need to, because they mean well at EVGA and are only doing this to accommodate the new CPU's; and remember there's no charge whatsoever for doing this for us either, another very nice deal if you ask me. They could have just said: "Screw off, and buy another new board!" You know what I mean? But wanting us to get the most miles out of our investments in these expensive and intricate Classified boards is No.1 on EVGA's mind, and Tech Support is always there to help us out when something like this comes up and there's no alternative but a hardware Mod for our boards to respond to the new technology with accurate and correct actions...otherwise the settings in BIOS don't work correctly, we don't have Turbo Boost or a 25X Multiplier, either one, so the alternative is grim and senseless when EVGA will step up and fix your board to be right as rain with the new CPU's for no charge at all. I hope that this takes care of any other questions about this Mod and why it's necessary, but if you still have questions I have not addressed then please contact EVGA Tech Support at their 877# telephone number, and/or write Shannon Robb at his address above, and I'm certain that you'll know what is the right thing to do in this circumstance at some point. I did, and it's working for me 100%! rexrzer77
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/20 10:46:17
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rexrzer77
Dejanh is correct, as I also had to have Shannon Robb at EVGA Tech Support Modify my Classified E760 to gain Turbo Mode and a 25X Multiplier both, and that is the ONLY way to enable the 970, 980, and 990X Turbo mode on the pre-Classified E770 boards.
I have done extensive research into this subject as you might imagine, and what happens according to Shannon Robb at EVGA Tech Support is that there needs to be a "negative bias resistor" installed up by the CPU Capsule area, where there's a "positive bias resistor" installed OEM from EVGA. This change allows the board to recognize the new configurations in the 970, 980X and 990X CPU's, all three to be specific, as the 980X is the 970 CPU unlocked basically (according to Shannon this is the gospel truth).
I am afraid you are going to have to put your board through the hardware RAID Modification Program at EVGA--and you get that done by submitting the problem to EVGA Tech Support and they handle everything. They paid for shipping BOTH WAYS for my board, don't know if this is SOP or not, but they did with my situation. ...
Excellent information rexrzer77, thanks for the specifics and sharing your experiences.  Recommending a Blue Ribbon.
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/03/20 18:05:45
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Davabled rexrzer77 Dejanh is correct, as I also had to have Shannon Robb at EVGA Tech Support Modify my Classified E760 to gain Turbo Mode and a 25X Multiplier both, and that is the ONLY way to enable the 970, 980, and 990X Turbo mode on the pre-Classified E770 boards. I have done extensive research into this subject as you might imagine, and what happens according to Shannon Robb at EVGA Tech Support is that there needs to be a "negative bias resistor" installed up by the CPU Capsule area, where there's a "positive bias resistor" installed OEM from EVGA. This change allows the board to recognize the new configurations in the 970, 980X and 990X CPU's, all three to be specific, as the 980X is the 970 CPU unlocked basically (according to Shannon this is the gospel truth). I am afraid you are going to have to put your board through the hardware RAID Modification Program at EVGA--and you get that done by submitting the problem to EVGA Tech Support and they handle everything. They paid for shipping BOTH WAYS for my board, don't know if this is SOP or not, but they did with my situation. ... Excellent information rexrzer77, thanks for the specifics and sharing your experiences. Recommending a Blue Ribbon. I only did what you, yourself would have done in a similar circumstance Mr. Davabled, and I appreciate the gesture and recommendation it goes without saying, so thank you! EVGA is such an xlnt company, you all know that? The only other company I can think of that is so "customer-centric" as EVGA is possibly would be Asus, but I am just guessing because I've never had an issue like this with an Asus product...I happen to own their notebook (a G51JX-A1 Core i7 720QM-based notebook) and they have gone overboard to help me out with a couple problems I had with the laptop, but it didn't involve actually Modifying the motherboard like EVGA is doing for our situation, a most amazing thing if you ask me! As Shannon explained to me about "our Mod" that is necessary: He said that the E760 boards were not designed with the new Intel 970, 980X and 990X CPU's in mind (at the time the hardware configurations were being worked out and finalized for production) because EVGA didn't know, for a fact, that Intel would be actually going into production with those CPU's and their new hardware configuration within them either. But as time has elapsed and Intel actually did implement some radical new things in the consumer CPU's mentioned here that are involved with this Mod, someone, somewhere, sometime at EVGA's upper echelons decided that they would go ahead with the "Modifcation Program" that is ongoing with the Classified E760 boards (and others too apparently) right now, and this is quite interesting to me, personally, because it had to involve a big amount of research into the Classified boards and how they are built, and figuring out what, exactly needed to be Modified to achieve the specified result we are seeing with the boards now...and I commend EVGA for doing this, and I truly to appreciate it a bunch because who wants to have to invest in a new motherboard if it can be avoided? I happen to *like* my Classified boards a lot, apart from just using them you know that? I mean to say that they are really a tremendous asset to me personally, and I rely on two of them to be the backbone for the two most important PC desktops in my life at this time, so having both of them around with the new CPU's in the house to boot is an xlnt proposition because that means I don't have to go out and purchase a new Sandy Bridge setup straight away and reconfigure my whole PC apparatus, building new PC setups and doing the research to make sure that all my needs are taken care of with a whole, different setup...my Lord it took enough to get my Classified together...almost 5 months straight of product swaps, various parts and pieces being tried out and finalized back in 2009 before I was pleased and happy with the setup, and so that it met my then-present and future needs both. So I would hate to have to go though all that again this year, and re-configure a whole new Sandy Bridge setup with a hardware RAID sub-system, and all my other tricks and treats that are in my present Classified board setups! So THANK YOU EVGA! I think it's just top drawer stuff for EVGA to go ahead and have this Modification Program for our boards and the new CPU's, and to Shannon Robb and all the others involved with this whole deal I want to tell them all "THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING FOR US", and more, because it really is fantastic and way over the top for EVGA to go through such a program for our boards, and allow us to use them with these new CPU's @ 100% facility, ie being able to use all of their features 100% with an "old technology" board like the Classified E760-series and all its stable mates. Now if somebody at EVGA would just figure out how we could have EFT BIOS in the boards I think I'd really be excited and personally grateful, as that is the last significant thing I wished for with these boards, that feature that they don't have presently like the new P67's DO have, so we could enjoy and use large Disk Arrays >2TB in size with the boards, and be able to boot such an array also...I mean if that were possible I could use my Classified boards for another 5-7 years and really take are of present and future needs! (Don't tell them I wrote that, please!, Hah Hah!) That's the whole story with our Modification Program and my feelings about the entire deal, unexpurgated as it seems to be, and I don't mind sharing those thoughts with my friends here at EVGA.com, because it IS significant that EVGA is doing this whole deal for our benefits as a group of owners of their products. Like I said, they didn't have to do this....they could have just said "Time to buy a new board and invest in a new setup!" And we don't have to do that now, and I think it's just amazing and fantastic that this has happened like it did, so THANKS EVGA!! rexrzer77
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_ShannonR
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/04/08 12:47:01
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rexrzer77
Dejanh is correct, as I also had to have Shannon Robb at EVGA Product Management Modify my Classified E760 to gain Turbo Mode and a 25X Multiplier both, and that is the ONLY way to enable the 970, 980, and 990X Turbo mode on the pre-Classified E770 boards.
I have done extensive research into this subject as you might imagine, and what happens according to Shannon Robb at EVGA Product Management is that there needs to be a "negative bias resistor" installed up by the CPU Capsule area, where there's a "positive bias resistor" installed OEM from EVGA. This change allows the board to recognize the new configurations in the 970, 980X and 990X CPU's, all three to be specific, as the 980X is the 970 CPU unlocked basically (according to Shannon this is the gospel truth).
I am afraid you are going to have to put your board through the hardware Modification Program at EVGA--and you get that done by submitting the problem to EVGA Tech Support and they handle everything. They paid for shipping BOTH WAYS for my board, don't know if this is SOP or not, but they did with my situation.
Good luck, and there's your answer twice now, from Dejanh and myself both, as we both had the Mod done to our boards.
rexrzer77
Guys, This information is not correct. The modification is only necessary for I7 970, and westmere model CPU's. 980X and 990X cpus run fine. Shannon
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Re:Problem with gulftown i7 970 and X58 3x SLI Classified (E760)
2011/07/10 16:36:36
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_ShannonR
Guys,
This information is not correct.
The modification is only necessary for I7 970, and westmere model CPU's.
980X and 990X cpus run fine.
Shannon
Shannon, If you can update this information and include any Info on the 980 Non-X CPU, and 760, I would appreciate it. On the 980X in a 762 I can get a 26 multiplier, but on a 760 and a 980 Non-X I only get a 25.  Also other than loosing the single 1X multiplier is there any other issue with having or not having the mod ?
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