My understanding is that the reference board design with the black edition doesn't have any issues.  You're not likely to get a backplate as that wasn't EVGA's offer.  Also, you'd be better served contacting EVGA directly for answers.

the_real_maverick
You're not likely to get a backplate as that wasn't EVGA's offer.

+1

pawelblyskal

the_real_maverick
My understanding is that the reference board design with the black edition doesn't have any issues.  You're not likely to get a backplate as that wasn't EVGA's offer.  Also, you'd be better served contacting EVGA directly for answers.

You must be blind. The GTX 1070 SC Black Edition (08G-P4-5173) is listed as one of the models that are defective and has the IDENTICAL PCB board and ACX 3.0 cooler design as all the other 1070 units that are having issues. I would recommend you do some research before posting here again.

The good news is you don't need the thermal pads at all.

pawelblyskal

Sajin
The good news is you don't need the thermal pads at all.

Are you just trolling me or did you just wake up right now? The BIOS "hack" that EVGA is offering simply runs the fans at a higher speed and is unacceptable. It does not solve the defective cooler design, only the thermal pad fix will and this thermal pad fix REQUIRES a back plate.

http://forums.evga.com/How-to-apply-the-Thermal-Pads-for-the-10701080-Cards-m2573413.aspx
 
Only if you have a backplate. The midplate one can be applied without a backplate.
 
Also, I'm not a thermoengineer, but without a backplate the backside of you VRMs actually cool BETTER than a card with a backplate since those had an air gap between the PCB and backplate - which makes for poor thermal conductivity. Without a backplate to begin with, your card is cooled better on the backside!

Sajin

pawelblyskal

Sajin
The good news is you don't need the thermal pads at all.

Are you just trolling me or did you just wake up right now? The BIOS "hack" that EVGA is offering simply runs the fans at a higher speed and is unacceptable as the VRMs are still running much hotter than normal. It does not solve the defective cooler design, only the thermal pad fix will and this thermal pad fix REQUIRES a backplate.

Not trolling at all. Taken from  ... "For those users who want additional cooling beyond the VBIOS update, EVGA has optional thermal pads available. This update is not required, however; EVGA will make it available free of charge to any customer who is interested."

Wrong. The thermal pad fix IS required as the VRMs are still running significantly hotter than they should even with increased fan speed (and noise on top of that). They are including the large thermal pad for the back since the backplate acts as an additional heatsink to solve this problem.

pawelblyskal

Sajin

pawelblyskal

Sajin
The good news is you don't need the thermal pads at all.

Are you just trolling me or did you just wake up right now? The BIOS "hack" that EVGA is offering simply runs the fans at a higher speed and is unacceptable as the VRMs are still running much hotter than normal. It does not solve the defective cooler design, only the thermal pad fix will and this thermal pad fix REQUIRES a backplate.

Not trolling at all. Taken from  ... "For those users who want additional cooling beyond the VBIOS update, EVGA has optional thermal pads available. This update is not required, however; EVGA will make it available free of charge to any customer who is interested."

Wrong. The thermal pad fix IS required as the VRMs are still running significantly hotter than they should even with increased fan speed (and noise on top of that). They are including the large thermal pad for the back since the backplate acts as an additional heatsink to solve this problem.

Obviously you haven't read the web article I gave you. Maybe you'll read this one... http://forums.evga.com/EV...e-Update-m2573491.aspx

Sajin
Obviously you haven't read the web article I gave you. Maybe you'll read this one... 

The information in the link you posted shows the bios "hack" still have the VRMs running well over 95c+ with an increase of fan noise TWO fold. Fan is running double time and still the VRMs are running unacceptably hot. ONLY with the complete thermal pad fix (including backplate) will this issue be solved. You're not going to win this argument as the test are in....  just look at the results at gamersnexus in the link YOU provided.
 
 

pawelblyskal

Sajin
Obviously you haven't read the web article I gave you. Maybe you'll read this one... 

You must be trolling. This is too funny. The information in the link you posted shows the bios "hack" still have the VRMs running well over 95c+ with an increase of fan noise TWO fold. Fan is running double time and still the VRMs are running unacceptably hot. ONLY with the complete thermal pad fix (including backplate) will this issue be solved. You're not going to win this argument as the test are in....  just look at the results at gamersnexus in the link YOU provided.
 
 

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2666-evga-heat-solution-thermal-imaging-of-vrm-1080-ftw
 
That article? It is for the FTW model and it has a much larger power delivery system. You don't have a FTW model.

pawelblyskal

Sajin
Obviously you haven't read the web article I gave you. Maybe you'll read this one... 

The information in the link you posted shows the bios "hack" still have the VRMs running well over 95c+ with an increase of fan noise TWO fold. Fan is running double time and still the VRMs are running unacceptably hot. ONLY with the complete thermal pad fix (including backplate) will this issue be solved. You're not going to win this argument as the test are in....  just look at the results at gamersnexus in the link YOU provided.
 
 

Taken from gamersnexus...
 

Here's two side-by-side thermal images of EVGA's 1080 FTW VRM (close-up) with max temperature indicators, as taken at an ambient of 22C. The left image is before EVGA's BIOS update, the right image is after the BIOS update (more aggressive fan RPM). Between the two, we're seeing a difference of ~14C, resultant of the jump from ~1600RPM to ~2200RPM. This brings the VRM temperature down to well within reasonable operating range. It's still warmer than some competition, but certainly not "overheating."

pawelblyskal

arestavo
 
 
 
That article? It is for the FTW model and it has a much larger power delivery system. You don't have a FTW model.

Exactly, the "standard" PCB design is even more prone to this issue as it has significant less VRMs to produce the power to the chip, and just an FYI, the power delivery system in the FTW model is nearly irrelevant has the chips are capped at specific power draws. All that the 10+2 phase circuity does is deliver slightly cleaner power to the chip.

As logic and facts fail to sway your personal opinion, may I suggest a cheap IR gun so you can see for yourself - https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Lasergrip-1080-Non-contact-Thermometer/dp/B00DMI632G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478058244&sr=8-1&keywords=IR+gun 
 
When you are done you can use it as a cat laser toy and/or use it to find drafts around the house/apartment that can be fixed.

arestavo
 
As logic and facts fail to sway your personal opinion, may I suggest a cheap IR gun so you can see for yourself -  

So you believe that the VRMs on a 4-5 phase power delivery system will NOT run hotter than on a 10 phase system....come on now...lets not go there.

pawelblyskal

arestavo
 
As logic and facts fail to sway your personal opinion, may I suggest a cheap IR gun so you can see for yourself -  

So you believe that the VRMs on a 4-5 phase power delivery system will NOT run hotter than on a 10 phase system....come on now...lets not go there.

I run a AIO X41 cooler with a Kraken G10 bracket with a dinky little fan blowing on the VRMs. EDIT - The VRMs  do NOT have any thermal pads or heatsinks - NONE. BARE!
 
40C on the top of those VRMs. 60C on the back. Full load looping Valley at 2202/11,114MHz, max power limit and 100% voltage. Measured with an IR gun.
 
Yeah, I'd say that's a bit cooler than what they were seeing with the FTW models - belief has NOTHING to do with this because I verified it myself with an IR gun.
 
 
Edit - you could change your belief by testing your card with an IR gun too. Or, you can continue to believe that EVGA owes you something (backplate) that you didn't pay for. If it's the latter then I'm done with you.

arestavo
 
I run a AIO X41 cooler with a Kraken G10 bracket with a dinky little fan blowing on the VRMs. EDIT - The VRMs  do NOT have any thermal pads or heatsinks - NONE. BARE!
 
40C on the top of those VRMs. 60C on the back. Full load looping Valley at 2202/11,114MHz, max power limit and 100% voltage. Measured with an IR gun.
 
Yeah, I'd say that's a bit cooler than what they were seeing with the FTW models - belief has NOTHING to do with this because I verified it myself with an IR gun.

So you had to rig an entire fan just for the VRMs???  Nobody wants to rig an additional fan just to cool the VRMs, all we want is this issue fixed....and it IS fixed by doing the thermal pad fix which requires.....a backplate... The entire point of this thread and as stated multiple time before, the BIOS hack is NOT a fix since it increases noise two fold and still does not cool them to an acceptable level, and thats without overclocking.

arestavo

XRogerX
i need the thermal pads as now i have a back plate on my 1070 SC Black Edition so those are going to help

As per http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-10801070-PWM-Operating-Temperature-Update-m2573491.aspx you can request hem here - http://www.evga.com/thermalmod/ 

already did

XRogerX

arestavo

XRogerX
i need the thermal pads as now i have a back plate on my 1070 SC Black Edition so those are going to help

As per http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-10801070-PWM-Operating-Temperature-Update-m2573491.aspx you can request hem here - http://www.evga.com/thermalmod/ 

already did

You should be good then - just keep an eye open for that soon to be released updated VBIOS with the default fan speed improvements.