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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2012/11/28 15:32:14
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Baltothewolf Jacob should make a poll here on the EVGA site. Only registered users with 20 or more posts can vote. Good idea that way I wouldn't have to take all the insults of trying to make an effort to restore the waterblock production!
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2012/11/28 16:22:43
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My thought: Conduct the poll here simply by having people mention their preferences in each post. That way it isn't a anonymous poll which can be spun in any direction. I think most everyone that genuinely voted in favor does routinely check this poll/thread, so they will come back if need be and edit the OP (opening post) as such. Andrew_K - You know they are making a huge markup on the waterblocks. $169 for a block that was just so-so, and priced 30+% higher than competition
- A lot of people clearly still want them.
- Make more blocks. ???. Profit.
All businesses need guarantees PRIOR to investment in anything related to the project. In the case of growing demand prior to a niche's introduction, EVGA can position themselves to take a chunk [hopefully from others]. But in the case of a niche product that had a run and stopped, a guarantee can only come in the form of figuring out exact what "A lot of people" means; in other words, it can vary any time and harder to be certain of anything. There may need to be a minimum pre-order signup just to pay for running equipment or having a regular EVGA employee do something else for a while taking care of this brief run until others get wind of it through auto-notifies. EVGA stopped because demand got shallow, that those wanting so badly still wasn't enough to continue making money from. EVGA has their own sales statistics, they can't read people's minds, dwindling sales = no point in continuing. But if demand can spring up anytime, that could be what this poll can show. But like I said, I suggest everyone that wants it say so in this thread and no where else, this way EVGA can verify their existence and as genuine EVGA members.
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2012/11/28 16:51:50
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lehpron My thought: Conduct the poll here simply by having people mention their preferences in each post. That way it isn't a anonymous poll which can be spun in any direction. I think most everyone that genuinely voted in favor does routinely check this poll/thread, so they will come back if need be and edit the OP (opening post) as such. Andrew_K - You know they are making a huge markup on the waterblocks. $169 for a block that was just so-so, and priced 30+% higher than competition
- A lot of people clearly still want them.
- Make more blocks. ???. Profit.
All businesses need guarantees PRIOR to investment in anything related to the project. In the case of growing demand prior to a niche's introduction, EVGA can position themselves to take a chunk [hopefully from others]. But in the case of a niche product that had a run and stopped, a guarantee can only come in the form of figuring out exact what "A lot of people" means; in other words, it can vary any time and harder to be certain of anything. There may need to be a minimum pre-order signup just to pay for running equipment or having a regular EVGA employee do something else for a while taking care of this brief run until others get wind of it through auto-notifies. EVGA stopped because demand got shallow, that those wanting so badly still wasn't enough to continue making money from. EVGA has their own sales statistics, they can't read people's minds, dwindling sales = no point in continuing. But if demand can spring up anytime, that could be what this poll can show. But like I said, I suggest everyone that wants it say so in this thread and no where else, this way EVGA can verify their existence and as genuine EVGA members. I guess that would work, what I don't know is why they don't take a minimum order of say 50 blocks at a time and they manufacturer 50 for the fifty people who preordered, that way they don't have surplus.
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2012/11/28 19:37:09
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Maybe this is why they stopped production: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Classified 4GB VGA Card w/ Hydro Copper Waterblock (04G-P4-3689-KR) http://www.frozencpu.com/...-P4-3689-KR.html#blank Was this combo around before? http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/04g-p4-3689.pdf Grab what blocks are left seeming they are so popular and produce a 680 classified hydrocopper, forcing people to buy the dearer combo instead of the card and waterblock? It's not much dearer unless you count the discount of the air cooled 680 classified atm.
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2012/11/28 21:11:04
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sjp770 Maybe this is why they stopped production: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Classified 4GB VGA Card w/ Hydro Copper Waterblock (04G-P4-3689-KR) http://www.frozencpu.com/...-P4-3689-KR.html#blank Was this combo around before? http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/04g-p4-3689.pdf Grab what blocks are left seeming they are so popular and produce a 680 classified hydrocopper, forcing people to buy the dearer combo instead of the card and waterblock? It's not much dearer unless you count the discount of the air cooled 680 classified atm. They had it before. And the only reason why the block is popular is because that's the ONLY block you can use on the Classy. I myself is looking into Heatkiller's Hole Edition since my card is a reference. Andrew_K This is a little bit of a different situation. - You know they are making a huge markup on the waterblocks. $169 for a block that was just so-so, and priced 30+% higher than competition
- A lot of people clearly still want them.
- Make more blocks. ???. Profit.
- I have to disagree. I was looking at 690 waterblocks and EVGA's is cost competitive. Even the 680 Classy block (which they pretty much have a monopoly on since no one else is making a block for it) was priced reasonable compared to reference 680 blocks.
- A lot of people say they want it.... Talk is cheap etc etc
- If they ordered up say 50 blocks and only sell 10~20 its a bust for EVGA. Especially if they sit on them forever and some more.
So like I said; - The OP should make a poll asking the forum people here and other websites if they're interested in the EVGA waterblocks
- After he's gained enough interest he should talk to someone from EVGA about it, like Jacob that he's got this much demand and how many COMMITTED people he would need before they do another run
- Get that number of people for a group buy so the money is paid up front
- People who wanted the blocks gets it
- EVGA sells the stock of blocks and doesn't have a back stock
- Win Win
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2012/11/28 21:34:51
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Rei86
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Maybe this is why they stopped production: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Classified 4GB VGA Card w/ Hydro Copper Waterblock (04G-P4-3689-KR) http://www.frozencpu.com/...-P4-3689-KR.html#blank Was this combo around before? http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/04g-p4-3689.pdf
Grab what blocks are left seeming they are so popular and produce a 680 classified hydrocopper, forcing people to buy the dearer combo instead of the card and waterblock? It's not much dearer unless you count the discount of the air cooled 680 classified atm.
They had it before. And the only reason why the block is popular is because that's the ONLY block you can use on the Classy. I myself is looking into Heatkiller's Hole Edition since my card is a reference.
Andrew_K This is a little bit of a different situation.
- You know they are making a huge markup on the waterblocks. $169 for a block that was just so-so, and priced 30+% higher than competition
- A lot of people clearly still want them.
- Make more blocks. ???. Profit.
- I have to disagree. I was looking at 690 waterblocks and EVGA's is cost competitive. Even the 680 Classy block (which they pretty much have a monopoly on since no one else is making a block for it) was priced reasonable compared to reference 680 blocks.
- A lot of people say they want it.... Talk is cheap etc etc
- If they ordered up say 50 blocks and only sell 10~20 its a bust for EVGA. Especially if they sit on them forever and some more.
So like I said; - The OP should make a poll asking the forum people here and other websites if they're interested in the EVGA waterblocks
- After he's gained enough interest he should talk to someone from EVGA about it, like Jacob that he's got this much demand and how many COMMITTED people he would need before they do another run
- Get that number of people for a group buy so the money is paid up front
- People who wanted the blocks gets it
- EVGA sells the stock of blocks and doesn't have a back stock
- Win Win
I happen to disagree, but that's okay. In my opinion there is clearly something going on that is not being completely let out. EVGA can't be that scared of having a small amount of overstock, especially since they have a long time to move the products, and many places to do it. If etailers like frozen, performancepcs, sidewinder, etc. are all selling the product, they will buy more. That's just how it works. Thus, why this doesn't quite make sense. Are they short on capital and can't afford to have some product sit around? EVGA isn't a huge corporation, but it isn't a small mom and pop shop either. It doesn't quite add up to me. Saying talk is cheap when a lot of people say they want it is a cop out. If people say they want the 680 classy waterblocks, they probably actually do. No reason to say otherwise. Assuming they order blocks in a 50 piece chunk and would only sell 50% of it is another bad assumption. We don't have any concrete data on numbers. Or maybe you do?
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2012/11/28 21:42:18
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But talk is cheap, especially on the internet. No, I don't have any raw data of EVGA's inventory, sales, and profit. But as a company having old parts just lingering isn't a good thing if you can't move it all. Having these blocks laying around once the 700 series comes around won't be a good thing.
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2012/11/28 21:51:11
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Andrew_K Rei86 sjp770 Maybe this is why they stopped production: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Classified 4GB VGA Card w/ Hydro Copper Waterblock (04G-P4-3689-KR) http://www.frozencpu.com/...-P4-3689-KR.html#blank Was this combo around before? http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/04g-p4-3689.pdf Grab what blocks are left seeming they are so popular and produce a 680 classified hydrocopper, forcing people to buy the dearer combo instead of the card and waterblock? It's not much dearer unless you count the discount of the air cooled 680 classified atm. They had it before. And the only reason why the block is popular is because that's the ONLY block you can use on the Classy. I myself is looking into Heatkiller's Hole Edition since my card is a reference. Andrew_K This is a little bit of a different situation. - You know they are making a huge markup on the waterblocks. $169 for a block that was just so-so, and priced 30+% higher than competition
- A lot of people clearly still want them.
- Make more blocks. ???. Profit.
- I have to disagree. I was looking at 690 waterblocks and EVGA's is cost competitive. Even the 680 Classy block (which they pretty much have a monopoly on since no one else is making a block for it) was priced reasonable compared to reference 680 blocks.
- A lot of people say they want it.... Talk is cheap etc etc
- If they ordered up say 50 blocks and only sell 10~20 its a bust for EVGA. Especially if they sit on them forever and some more.
So like I said; - The OP should make a poll asking the forum people here and other websites if they're interested in the EVGA waterblocks
- After he's gained enough interest he should talk to someone from EVGA about it, like Jacob that he's got this much demand and how many COMMITTED people he would need before they do another run
- Get that number of people for a group buy so the money is paid up front
- People who wanted the blocks gets it
- EVGA sells the stock of blocks and doesn't have a back stock
- Win Win
I happen to disagree, but that's okay. In my opinion there is clearly something going on that is not being completely let out. EVGA can't be that scared of having a small amount of overstock, especially since they have a long time to move the products, and many places to do it. If etailers like frozen, performancepcs, sidewinder, etc. are all selling the product, they will buy more. That's just how it works. Thus, why this doesn't quite make sense. Are they short on capital and can't afford to have some product sit around? EVGA isn't a huge corporation, but it isn't a small mom and pop shop either. It doesn't quite add up to me. Saying talk is cheap when a lot of people say they want it is a cop out. If people say they want the 680 classy waterblocks, they probably actually do. No reason to say otherwise. Assuming they order blocks in a 50 piece chunk and would only sell 50% of it is another bad assumption. We don't have any concrete data on numbers. Or maybe you do? This may seem crazy but hear me out: I feel like EVGA is stopping all the money invested in the 600s series because: 1) 700 series's is releasing soon 2) 7970 Ghz edition with new driver updates killed the 680, this maybe the reason why no one from EVGA wants to speak out about this, because if they did it will just ruin their sales. Basically telling their customers to not buy.
post edited by xNiNELiVES - 2012/11/29 16:32:39
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Re:Petition to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680 and 690! VOTE HERE!
2012/12/02 01:45:28
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Performance-pcs.com still has the EVGA GTX 680 Hydrocopper Waterblocks. Limited supply. I just bought 2 of them. Good luck :)
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Re:Petition to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680 and 690! VOTE HERE!
2012/12/02 08:15:32
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I appreciate the response to help. They've been in stock there for actually quite a while, unbelievably. Unfortunately I'm looking for the classified hydro copper waterblock which is somehow more illusive than the regular 680 waterblock
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Re:Petition to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680 and 690! VOTE HERE!
2013/01/17 17:08:48
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I need 2 of these, like right now.
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Re:Petition to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680 and 690! VOTE HERE!
2013/01/18 02:11:01
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I also need two of the non classy 680 blocks, any ETA on those? FYI I do know that other companies make reference 680 blocks but I like full cover, end to end design and love the fact the Swiftech/EVGA block lets you have the inlet on the back on the block and outlet on the front, lots of blocks have both inlet and outlet on the front.
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Re:Petition to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680 and 690! VOTE HERE!
2013/01/18 06:26:30
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exactly. I had 2 evga 680 reference 4gbs and bought 2 hydrocopper blocks for them. now I got 2 more of the same card and I can no longer find these blocks?!?! What should I do? I want all 4 blocks to be the same! Please EVGA we are begging you to take our money.
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2013/03/11 17:31:39
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Hello again, and you are absolutely correct when you say that people who want them will come back to this thread. Hence, me. I had posted on a petition and have just recieved my 3 GTX 680 4Gb Classfied's. I am very pleased with them although I had planned to have been working on a WC system assembly before summer. Jacob!!! please!!! Some of us are not overclocker's, but as an industrial maintanace electrician I can certainly appreciate the importance of cooling on equipment. You build quality products and I never for a moment considered other manufacturers. Restore my slight loss of faith and I shall be grateful.
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2013/03/11 18:26:00
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They're coming... just wait
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2013/03/19 00:24:57
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I hope they do bring them back, i got money waiting for three blocks :(
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2013/03/19 01:16:57
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PLEASE MAKE THEM AGAIN I WILL BUY 3!
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2013/03/21 03:41:34
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Will search for a few week otherwise i'll sell my 670 ftw and buy 680 classified hydro copper before even they stop selling.
The cards cant be EOL already, can they?
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2013/03/21 10:52:33
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2013/03/22 01:37:33
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Aite my 670's have been booked in to be returned end of next week unless i can find some blocks otherwise i'll get the more expensice hydro copper classfieds instead. Has to be done as i really want those blocks
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2013/04/25 21:12:05
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Would literally sell my soul for a pair of the GTX 680 Classified blocks. I have no interest in buying Titans.
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2014/06/14 07:40:20
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Seems like I may be able to help your guys out. While I can't exactly make hundreds of them if you guys are committed I can take care of you. I'm not exactly the cheapest option or the speediest, but you will get a quality product.
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
2014/06/15 12:39:17
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alright update for you that are still following the thread. i need names of people still interesting in these blocks, and how many you would like. nateman_doo just needs to know how many are interested. Im pretty sure this is a first come first serve type of deal. pm me with a simple "id like some" or something lol and the amount. Ill get a list together and send it to him and he can decide if he wants to make a thread for it or have someone else make it i dunno XD I am waiting on a reply from him on that, but mean time, send me pm's! i want these blocks to happen, too, so ill do what i can to help you guys out as well :) ill be posting this on other threads similar to this ;) keep em coming!
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Re:Poll to bring back the Hydro Copper waterblocks for GTX 680! VOTE HERE!
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