JUSTPOOKY
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Hello, After upgrading to the new vbios and putting on the thermal pads I noticed a 25-30% degradation in frames in games, forexample, on a 1080p monitor, precision x and Nvidia overlay display approx 95-105 fps on Bf 1 and low demanding games like league of legends see a huge interval of around 120-270 frames. Prior to doing physical upgrade on the card, bf 1 saw around 140-150 frames whereas league had a stable 250-300 frames.
Is there any explanation as to why this is?? Anyone else experiencing this? Maybe I applied too much thermal paste or dinged a part of the card?
Thank you.
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 09:33:03
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Welcome to the Forum JUSTPOOKY As you made the above changes did you also change the Graphics Drivers? You have not posted any Temperatures!
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JUSTPOOKY
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 09:38:30
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bcavnaugh Welcome to the Forum As you made the above changes did you also change the Graphics Drivers? You have not posted any Temperatures!
The drivers are up to date and I am idling at 34 degreess and see up to 73 degrees in Bf1 and 54 degrees in league of legends. The driver updates where done before the installation of the pads. Im not too familiar with what the temperatures should be at but according to gamersnexus report it shows somewhere around the 20 degrees range at idle using thermal probes whereas I'm looking at temperatures through the precision software. Thanks
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 09:45:02
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Not even under water would your Idle Temps be 20C Do a clean Driver install, that is remove the Current Drivers and run DDU. Then install the Driver that you want to use and re-test. Temps under 80C are fine btw.
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 10:38:41
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Both mine are under water and idle temp is 27 - 29. I watched that Vid by gamernexus and I thought they said a 20 degree drop when doing the thermal pad mod and bios update. I could be mistaken since my mind is focused on turkey.....
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JUSTPOOKY
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 10:40:59
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Sorry my mistake I thought ambient meant idle temperatures. So, I'm feeling that 34 degrees on idle browsing is fairly normal. Still scratching my head at the frame drop..
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 11:15:55
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Have you used DDU? It's free and a VERY good tool for uninstalling video drivers. It's a very good step to take when you're having video issues. http://www.wagnardsoft.co...94079dec95b7e766c4e684 When presented with the option window, choose Safe Mode. Your computer will reboot to safe mode and DDU will open. Make sure Nvidia drivers are selected, and choose Clean. Your computer will restart, and now you can install the driver version of your choice and test again.
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 11:29:26
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arestavo Have you used DDU? It's free and a VERY good tool for uninstalling video drivers. It's a very good step to take when you're having video issues. http://www.wagnardsoft.co...94079dec95b7e766c4e684 When presented with the option window, choose Safe Mode. Your computer will reboot to safe mode and DDU will open. Make sure Nvidia drivers are selected, and choose Clean. Your computer will restart, and now you can install the driver version of your choice and test again.
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 11:31:05
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So I finished the DDU and the reinstallation of the most recent drivers, still seeing the lowered frame rates.
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 11:43:42
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 11:47:43
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Is there any chance that I may have messed up the internals a tiny bit during installation of the pads? Or excess of thermal paste? Just seems very unlikely that the drivers are causing this since the frames before and after installations decreased on the same driver.
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 12:02:41
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what you OC'ing it to? my 1080FTW only likes a +40 gpu and +750 memory gives me a stable 2063Mhz gpu anything above these values degrades my performance, a whole lot of issues affect frame rate and a most of them are not gfx card related!
post edited by baconinabun - 2016/11/24 13:12:32
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JUSTPOOKY
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 12:09:16
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The only thing I've done to the card is vbios and the thermal pads so far, it is running on clock speeds.
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 12:16:06
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if the games are play fine enough turn off the FPS counter and enjoy your gfx card, put it this way my r9 290 in bf4 used to say 200frames when mantle was enabled, so go figure, bf4 on my 1080 says 70-90frames do i believe FPS counters HELL NO, and neither should you :D P.S the only information i need to see is clocks, amount of memory the game is using on the gfx card, power limit, temp limit, gpu temp and cpu temp and that's about it :D
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 12:23:06
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Same here man. My original 1080 FTW stopped working so EVGA sent me a new one with thermal pads and the new BIOS. My new card runs at 50-60 MHz higher clocks and the temps are 30 C degrees lower but somehow the card performs a lot WORSE. I've tried a bunch of things but haven't found an answer yet. Here's a link a to my thread if you are curious: http://forums.evga.com/Ne...ce-m2584626.aspx
CPU: i7-4790K GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTWMOBO: MSI Z97 GAMING 5RAM: 16GB Avexir Core (red)PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1050 GSStorage: 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 256GB Samsung 840 Pro & 1.5TB SeagateCase: NZXT H440 (black/red) & NZXT HUE+ lightingCooler: NZXT Kraken x41 + Noctua PPC-3000 Mouse & Keyboard: Razer Mamba Chroma & Razer Deathstalker ChromaTV: Sony 55" X810C 4K (60Hz) 1080p (120Hz) with Sony 5.1 ch 1,000W
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 12:28:26
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IchigoSoulReaper Same here man. My original 1080 FTW stopped working so EVGA sent me a new one with thermal pads and the new BIOS. My new card runs at 50-60 MHz higher clocks and the temps are 30 C degrees lower but somehow the card performs a lot WORSE. I've tried a bunch of things but haven't found an answer yet. Here's a link a to my thread if you are curious: http://forums.evga.com/Ne...ce-m2584626.aspx
i do like the final post in that thread " Does anybody else have the Windows 10 anniversary update?" lol i would have thought everyone and their uncle would be using it and onto further versions than that you tried downclocking the gpu? -50 or -60? on XOC mine put the voltage slider on left side to 100% unlink power target and temp target
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 12:57:33
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baconinabun
IchigoSoulReaper Same here man. My original 1080 FTW stopped working so EVGA sent me a new one with thermal pads and the new BIOS. My new card runs at 50-60 MHz higher clocks and the temps are 30 C degrees lower but somehow the card performs a lot WORSE. I've tried a bunch of things but haven't found an answer yet. Here's a link a to my thread if you are curious: http://forums.evga.com/Ne...ce-m2584626.aspx
i do like the final post in that thread "Does anybody else have the Windows 10 anniversary update?" lol i would have thought everyone and their uncle would be using it and onto further versions than that you tried downclocking the gpu? -50 or -60? on XOC mine put the voltage slider on left side to 100% unlink power target and temp target
I have not tried downclocking it in the negatives. Surely that can't increase performance though? Stock/default at 0 is the lowest clock I've tried. With the voltage, my last one was always on default as well so I've left it that way mostly. I did try 100% with no improvement. My power target is at 130% and my temp target is at 92 C. I can go that high because I use slave mode on the GPU. I did also try master mode at 120%/91 C with no improvement. I'll keep an eye out on this thread. I'm curious to see if you find any fix.
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 13:03:06
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slide your bios switch to the left(primary) and reboot, you might think it's a bit odd as you get a higher power target on the secondary bios(slave), i found the secondary bios is crippled in some way when unlinked lower the temp target down by 1
post edited by baconinabun - 2016/11/24 13:09:57
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Re: Performance degradation on 1080 FTW
2016/11/24 14:17:06
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I posted my performance on my EVGA GTX 1070 FTW ACX 3.x cooler, on the 63rd page of the VBIOS update thread. The O.P. might find the read interesting.
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