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2010/10/27 19:32:54 (permalink)
 
THE FACTS
 
i have decided to do this molex mod on my e758 motherboard. after reading very carefully i found it is very simple to do. the method however would very from the e758 vs. the classified motherboards. with the classified motherboards a simple 2 12v leads are soldered to the 24-pin contact along with 2 ground leads to the 24-pin contacts. (per orientation of this mod guide: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226942) the only reason this orientation works is because the traces in the classified motherboards are beefer than that of traditional motherboards. with that said, with the e758 or any other board but the classified boards, you need to solder directly to the PCI-E slot and bypass the traces so you do not burn them out running more power through them.
 
 
THE UNKNOWN
 
what is still unclear for me though is if i solder directly to the PCI-E slots per this mod : http://vr-zone.com/print/-vr-zone-s-pci-express-current-booster-mod/3101.html , is the red lead (3.3v) required? Im thinking not, but maybe someone could confirm this. The second thing that is unclear is will i need 3 seperate molex connections (one per slot for this to work) or can all 3 slot run off one molex? maybe someone could chime in here as well. An alternative option, assuming you do not need the 3.3v leads, would be to use a 6-pin PCI-E connection to power all the slot. because the 6-pin connector houses 3 yellow 12v leads and 3 black ground leads.
 
Once these question are answered and it is confirmed, I will do this mod and report for other to follow if you choose to do so as well. 
 
    (currently awaiting approval at xtremesystems to speak with LardArse (moderator) to get these answers)
if any one here has an account with them that could copy/paste this thread/text into a reply/new thread for him would be much appreciated. the soon these questions could be answer the better. - justin (Thank you)
post edited by jrmitchell1983 - 2010/10/27 19:52:55

                                       
                                                           
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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/27 20:28:04 (permalink)
Are you planning on seriously overclocking the video cards? This mod is only necessary if you are really, and I mean REALLY overclocking the hell out of your cards. We're talking Ln2 for cooling and 1200-1400Mhz GPU clocks and heavily overvolted.
 
If you planning on just running 2 or 3 GPUs and overclocking them like the vast majority do on air or even water cooled. This mod is entirely not necessary to do. You will not melt anything (as per our PM's) if you are just planning on running a normal overclock.
 
I run my video cards 24/7 at 800/1600/3800 with voltages varying from 1.050 to 1.063v and I hvent damaged anything. Even when benching tham at 850/1700/3800 with 1.125v - 1.187v I've been in no danger of melting anything.

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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/28 15:08:03 (permalink)
i understand what you mean and will try running my setup as many say it will be fine, however if indeed the mod needs to be done this thread will be for all MB's not just the classified. 
 
still awaiting approval on the xtremesystems forum to be activated.
(if someone has an account the that could post word for word this thread or link it for LardArse to answer, would be great)

                                       
                                                           
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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/28 17:53:57 (permalink)
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Soldering Voids Warranties... Try this instead... (Link) and solder it instead...

very true, however if you just remove the mod before an RMA it will still be warrantied. (this has been confirmed by JACOB)

                                       
                                                           
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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/28 17:57:44 (permalink)
remenaker

Hay Hi CraptacularOne if you can run all that and no problums then I am not going to do the mod thanks for the info.
you the man.
I only have two GTX 480s and the plug runs cool.

If MB's without the molex connector for the PCI-E runs multiple GPU's without an issue, then mod is not required, but if they dont then the mod will be needed. the point really being is that only one member can confirm not issues with there e758 MB running multiple GPU's (3 way sli 480's). I have ran 2 480's and gts 450 physx and my 24-pin heated up to the point of melting if left at its current config. sure your not going to be running benchmarks all day, but maybe you will. also if your playing games such as crysis our high graphic games the 24-pin also heated up pretty good as well. 
 
NOTE:this mod is not for everyone and should only be done if you need it.

                                       
                                                           
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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/28 18:10:43 (permalink)
I've been running 3 GTX470's overclocked to 800/1600/3600 for months in Tri SLI on the board and no issues and I have been running 3 GTX480's for a several weeks now as I said at 800/1600/3800 24/7 and nothing yet either. Not even a hiccup. And yes I do play games for hours on end and often the system is left on 24/7. As well as it's left to fold when not in use, so the GPUs are constantly being stressed when I'm not gaming on it.
 
I think this is an isolated issue and one that mainly affected people that were running a substantial OC on their system/cards. I'm not discounting that it couldn't happen as we all know anything is possible. I'm simply stating rather than starting a mass hysteria from a few isolated events lets look at this objectively.
 
As for the melting of the 24pin ATX cable, I've spoken to jrmitchell in PM's regarding this and rather than just have my answer to him privately I'll post it publicly. He is concerned with the 24pin connector and states that it gets hot enough to worry him. Well my response to this would be have you ever touched and felt the temperature of the 24pin connector on another system previously? They can and do get quite warm even hot. As that is the central power input for the board. You'll find that on virtually any system that this will get quite warm to the touch when the system is under stress. This is normal, as the stress increases so does the power drawn from the PSU and a natural side effect is the cable and inputs gets hotter. This is even the case on my nephews build that is using a 680i with SLI GTX260's the 24pin ATX input gets quite warm under full load.It's only now in the light of the recent isolated events that people have even begun to notice this. Now that they do they panic and think their MB is gonna melt.
 
 

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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/28 18:34:23 (permalink)
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Afterburner

Soldering Voids Warranties... Try this instead... (Link) and solder it instead...

very true, however if you just remove the mod before an RMA it will still be warrantied. (this has been confirmed by JACOB)

You are certainly correct. However, the waring must be put out there. Remember... NO visible modifications can be found without the risk of the warranty becoming void. I have seen more than one thread here where folks have had RMA's denied at EVGA in a similar situation. Even changing the BIOS on a GPU can void the warranty if you are unable to put the original BIOS back on before killing the card (For example).
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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/28 20:32:25 (permalink)
FOLKS!!! Jacob with EVGA  has a solution  (Link)
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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/28 21:00:05 (permalink)
AB awesome news!! Thnx for the link.


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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/29 08:42:18 (permalink)
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FOLKS!!! Jacob with EVGA  has a solution  (Link)
 
 
i think it is a fix maybe at best for the classified models, nothing else (and this may only work because of the traces being beefer on the calssys)
 
there is no dought more testing needs to be done by evga and member before a universal solution can be found. I will conduct my own test to find on for all boards not just the classified. as time goes on im sure all highend motherboards will have the addition of the molex on board, but until then a solution should be found.

                                       
                                                           
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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/29 10:19:39 (permalink)

                                       
                                                           
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Re:PCI-E MOLEX MOD for all MB's 2010/10/29 13:38:13 (permalink)
well, no one has been able to answer these questions ( the unknown). since evga found a fix, i guess the research has come to a stop for most. i will continue to look for answer though. (alternative)

                                       
                                                           
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