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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 07:18:30
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Don't want to instill fear but for some there black screens didn't happen for awhile. Some 2 weeks some over a month later. So it can be something that wears down over time possibly. Though evga will have you covered if it happends but with the hassle of sending it back on your dime if after 30 days and getting a refurbished card in return.
Also would be best to test ea card separately to check for the black screen.
Witcher 3 currently don't use sli either.. it did before the last update I've read. I've heard there's ways to make your own custom Nvidia sli profile for ea game to get them to work but I've never needed to do that for my games in the many years I've been using sli.
hmnn...okay. at this point i need to push my cards to run 80+ fps or it was pointless for me to buy dual graphic cards :( i will look into jays2cents vids after work today. btw what does he mean when he mentions PASCALS ? :/
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 07:19:34
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His monitor is 3440X1440 which is 4,953,600 pixels. You are running 3840X2160 which is 8,294,400 pixels. You are running 1.67 times more pixels. The easy answer is to move away from a 4K monitor to get those frame rates.
ahh... i see. i'll look into it when i get home :) THANK YOU!
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 07:29:24
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His monitor is 3440X1440 which is 4,953,600 pixels. You are running 3840X2160 which is 8,294,400 pixels. You are running 1.67 times more pixels. The easy answer is to move away from a 4K monitor to get those frame rates.
ahh... i see. i'll look into it when i get home :) THANK YOU!
You are limited to 60 FPS being displayed anyway. You just need to see 60 FPS stable and you can do that in many games. We are supposed to see higher refresh rate 4K monitors next year, but then you will need the new video cards that will be out! moknowsbest
btw what does he mean when he mentions PASCALS ? :/
The 10x0 series cards are Pascal. The 9x0 series cards were called Maxwell. The next generation (11x0?) is Volta. They all have a generational name.
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 07:40:02
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Believe me you want sli for 4k. Single card ain't gona happen.
A single 1080/Titan xp isint going to get 60 FPS in today's games in 4k.
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 07:40:37
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His monitor is 3440X1440 which is 4,953,600 pixels. You are running 3840X2160 which is 8,294,400 pixels. You are running 1.67 times more pixels. The easy answer is to move away from a 4K monitor to get those frame rates.
ahh... i see. i'll look into it when i get home :) THANK YOU!
You are limited to 60 FPS being displayed anyway. You just need to see 60 FPS stable and you can do that in many games. We are supposed to see higher refresh rate 4K monitors next year, but then you will need the new video cards that will be out!
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btw what does he mean when he mentions PASCALS ? :/
The 10x0 series cards are Pascal. The 9x0 series cards were called Maxwell. The next generation (11x0?) is Volta. They all have a generational name.
oh crap! more newer gens of video cards being released next year? what are the model expiry (if that makes any sense) on video cards. like how long can i keep my cards for until it feels outdated and such? I've also noticed an overclocking thread in this forums...will it be okay to copy their tweaks and work around it? i'm thinking of installing heaven benchmark for testing....
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 07:42:05
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Believe me you want sli for 4k. Single card ain't gona happen.
A single 1080/Titan xp isint going to get 60 FPS in today's games in 4k.
i'm struggling with 2 cards atm anyways lol. i really need to sit down and start figuring things out.... most definitely tomorrow after work since i don't work weekends :)
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 07:48:27
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Just takes time. Some of it on your part and some of it for developers that rush out games to get things tweaked and fixed and finally for NVIDIA to clean up small messes.
You run cards until you aren't happy with their performance anymore (and can afford new ones). There will always be something 'better' right around the corner. This is a very expensive habit if you let it be.
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 08:56:22
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Yeah like every year they release faster cards it seems. It's the norm. Only upgrade when you move up to higher screen res or newer games bring you current card to its knees.
Currently people feel there isint a single 4k 60hz card out there yet.. that's why the need for sli and g-sync monitors to smooth out the frame rate. Also why I'm holding off 4k for a lot longer till theres 100+ 4k monitors and hardware to run that.
Honestly i could go 4k now with 1080 sli but no money or desire to go back to 60hz monitors.
I've always been about the most frame rate one can get and that's at 2560x1440. Could go with a ultra wide 1440 monitor but I'll wait for more games to use that res. Though an ultra wide would be nice for someone that needs the large wide desk space. Prob be great for rendering.
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 09:03:14
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Also don't try cut and paste what other are doing for overclocking! Every chip is different and overclocking on sli means your clocks will be limited with the weaker card.
Most important thing is to get the fan curve up from default to cool that top card better.
These pascal cards use boost 3.0 and will boost on loads (free auto oveclocking) and lower when 3 things are met. Voltage limit,power limit and temp limit. Your big one right now is temp.
At 52c it will lower then again at 62c and 70 and so forth to keep it stable.
People want 2000-2100mhz..
Every chip is different and every room and case have different temperatures to deal with.
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 11:05:19
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Yeah like every year they release faster cards it seems. It's the norm. Only upgrade when you move up to higher screen res or newer games bring you current card to its knees.
Currently people feel there isint a single 4k 60hz card out there yet.. that's why the need for sli and g-sync monitors to smooth out the frame rate. Also why I'm holding off 4k for a lot longer till theres 100+ 4k monitors and hardware to run that.
Honestly i could go 4k now with 1080 sli but no money or desire to go back to 60hz monitors.
I've always been about the most frame rate one can get and that's at 2560x1440. Could go with a ultra wide 1440 monitor but I'll wait for more games to use that res. Though an ultra wide would be nice for someone that needs the large wide desk space. Prob be great for rendering.
so let's say new and better cards releases next year... will anyone have the intention on buying my current cards if i try selling them? curious to know if there's any resale value for it...
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 11:08:16
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so let's say new and better cards releases next year... will anyone have the intention on buying my current cards if i try selling them? curious to know if there's any resale value for it...
There is always resale value. You just never know how much it will be. Will depend on factors that you can't foresee or control. If you are thinking or returning your cards and waiting for the next thing... don't. You will always be waiting on the next thing. Enjoy your cards now and worry of selling if you get the itch in the future.
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 11:17:31
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Also don't try cut and paste what other are doing for overclocking! Every chip is different and overclocking on sli means your clocks will be limited with the weaker card.
Most important thing is to get the fan curve up from default to cool that top card better.
These pascal cards use boost 3.0 and will boost on loads (free auto oveclocking) and lower when 3 things are met. Voltage limit,power limit and temp limit. Your big one right now is temp.
At 52c it will lower then again at 62c and 70 and so forth to keep it stable.
People want 2000-2100mhz..
Every chip is different and every room and case have different temperatures to deal with.
What is the best way to find out my cards capability...tweak it little by little as jays2cents suggests?
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 11:18:44
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so let's say new and better cards releases next year... will anyone have the intention on buying my current cards if i try selling them? curious to know if there's any resale value for it...
There is always resale value. You just never know how much it will be. Will depend on factors that you can't foresee or control. If you are thinking or returning your cards and waiting for the next thing... don't. You will always be waiting on the next thing. Enjoy your cards now and worry of selling if you get the itch in the future.
Thank you! :) maybe around 2018 if anything i guess..come to think of it. First i need to get as much knowledge as i can from you GODS and feel comfortable with PC parts and such :)
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 11:28:39
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What is the best way to find out my cards capability...tweak it little by little as jays2cents suggests?
Yes. One card at a time to learn each cards limits and then you know the best to hope for in SLI (the weakest link). Make the strongest card the primary for times when you have to disable SLI. No one here is a god, but there is a wealth of information collectively. Before too long, you'll be in the fray helping the next new person. EDIT: Some may Sajin is, come to think of it.
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 12:35:40
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I'm not sure if anyone has said this, as I didn't read much into this post or replies, because I'm not qualified to help.
But, moknowsbest, being a PC noob (i am one too) what would you ever even dream that you would need the power of 2 1080s for? especially FTWs...
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 13:09:56
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I'm not sure if anyone has said this, as I didn't read much into this post or replies, because I'm not qualified to help.
But, moknowsbest, being a PC noob (i am one too) what would you ever even dream that you would need the power of 2 1080s for? especially FTWs...
i have a bad temper against waiting on things...this is why i wanted something that will cut my wait time in half when it comes to loading files, multitasking and video rendering also playing games on high end settings while editing on the second monitor :)
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 13:12:20
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What is the best way to find out my cards capability...tweak it little by little as jays2cents suggests?
Yes. One card at a time to learn each cards limits and then you know the best to hope for in SLI (the weakest link). Make the strongest card the primary for times when you have to disable SLI.
No one here is a god, but there is a wealth of information collectively. Before too long, you'll be in the fray helping the next new person.
EDIT: Some may Sajin is, come to think of it.
oops! lol i thought tweaking on precision will change both cards at the same time (having on sli mode) also i'm thinking of uninstalling it...that piece of BEEP software sometimes freezes on load-up and/or is just kinda slow... can i use msi afterburner for making tweaks instead? :/
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 13:37:24
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Afterburner is more than fine. I think Beta 14 is the latest.
Do each one to understand their possibilities individually.
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 13:40:27
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Afterburner is more than fine. I think Beta 14 is the latest.
Do each one to understand their possibilities individually.
gotcha! so the way to do it is the select a particular driver from this small select pull down menu via afterburner, correct? i rmr skimming through it....
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 14:01:24
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I'm not sure if anyone has said this, as I didn't read much into this post or replies, because I'm not qualified to help.
But, moknowsbest, being a PC noob (i am one too) what would you ever even dream that you would need the power of 2 1080s for? especially FTWs...
He want to conquer the world  Some people want what they want. Others believe that if one is good two is better. This type of HP is good for 60 fps on 4K maybe 5K displays (edit typo)
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 14:24:47
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samnew2288
I'm not sure if anyone has said this, as I didn't read much into this post or replies, because I'm not qualified to help.
But, moknowsbest, being a PC noob (i am one too) what would you ever even dream that you would need the power of 2 1080s for? especially FTWs...
He want to conquer the world
Some people want what they want. Others believe that is one is good two is better.
This type of HP is good for 60 fps on 4K maybe 5K displays
haha yeah :P But tbh... i work at a print shop and clients always wants a better quality print and quick turn-around and i am known as a 1000% best employee in the print industry to deliver that kind of service and performance. So when it comes to treating myself, i would like do the same :) but unfortunately, other vendors and services don't give a crap about their clients/customers. So yeah, whatever i do or buy i make sure it is a high-end product or at least close to it <3
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 16:21:10
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You have the option of linking both card together or seperate in precision X. I believe it'd the same in afterburner.
I've tried unlinking in precision X a week ago and it didn't work. Whatever settings I set it did for both cards. Maybe it works for older cards or maybe cards not runing in sli.
I used to always use afterburner but this time I like precision X since I understand it now. Back when was hard to find what I was looking for.
Though I can't get it to load with Windows even though I have it set to load on boot up. I always have to wait for Windows to finish loading and then open it.. hopefully it works right when I install win10 pro fresh this time.
Currently stuck on the phone till I finish building the new rig. :/
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 16:29:35
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You have the option of linking both card together or seperate in precision X. I believe it'd the same in afterburner.
I've tried unlinking in precision X a week ago and it didn't work. Whatever settings I set it did for both cards. Maybe it works for older cards or maybe cards not runing in sli.
I used to always use afterburner but this time I like precision X since I understand it now. Back when was hard to find what I was looking for.
Though I can't get it to load with Windows even though I have it set to load on boot up. I always have to wait for Windows to finish loading and then open it.. hopefully it works right when I install win10 pro fresh this time.
Currently stuck on the phone till I finish building the new rig. :/
You HAVE to use Precision X OC, with the 10 series GPU. You can unlink them and then push apply button
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 16:53:05
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AHowes
You have the option of linking both card together or seperate in precision X. I believe it'd the same in afterburner.
I've tried unlinking in precision X a week ago and it didn't work. Whatever settings I set it did for both cards. Maybe it works for older cards or maybe cards not runing in sli.
I used to always use afterburner but this time I like precision X since I understand it now. Back when was hard to find what I was looking for.
Though I can't get it to load with Windows even though I have it set to load on boot up. I always have to wait for Windows to finish loading and then open it.. hopefully it works right when I install win10 pro fresh this time.
Currently stuck on the phone till I finish building the new rig. :/
You HAVE to use Precision X OC, with the 10 series GPU.
You can unlink them and then push apply button
I have Precision X 16 installed. is that ok or it's the wrong version?? should i be using 6.05 or something? :/ how do people benchmark... by unlinking them ?
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 17:43:38
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His monitor is 3440X1440 which is 4,953,600 pixels. You are running 3840X2160 which is 8,294,400 pixels. You are running 1.67 times more pixels. The easy answer is to move away from a 4K monitor to get those frame rates.
He should be able to get 60fps @4k with 2 cards I would think. I originally bought the Asus 27" PG279Q 1440p monitor and was getting 120 to 140fps in Doom. I thought if I was getting those kind of frame rates I could easily run the 4K variant but after some research and reviewer opinions, I decided 1440p was the sweet spot. the ultra-wide monitors kinda peaked my interest and decided to give it a try.... Once I saw it in action, I loved it....
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 20:18:58
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done some benchmark.....
on heaven benmark:
200 to 240fps below 1920x1080
100 to 140fps for 2560x1600
40 - 60fps for 3840x1440
no overclocked.
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 20:46:17
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moknowsbest
done some benchmark.....
on heaven benmark:
200 to 240fps below 1920x1080
100 to 140fps for 2560x1600
40 - 60fps for 3840x1440
no overclocked.
What are your FPS @ 3840x2160?
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 20:49:58
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woojyee
moknowsbest
done some benchmark.....
on heaven benmark:
200 to 240fps below 1920x1080
100 to 140fps for 2560x1600
40 - 60fps for 3840x1440
no overclocked.
What are your FPS @ 3840x2160?
absolutely sorry it's suppose to read 3840x2160 not 1440. btw after overclocked for that setting the benchmark would crash within 5 mins on the lowest OC tweak..
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 21:01:19
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Okay guys, so i've done overclock tweaking today and it went OK.... sometimes either my cards will crash or the benchmark. i started to tweak little by little individually but same fps were shown... as for The Division i will not get 60fps for the life of me tweak or no tweak with no sli enabled because it lags with SLI on.
Anyways i think i'm asking for too much. i am happy with what i have i guess...if i have to game i'll just game on 1920x1080 res..
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Re: PC NOOB in need of HELP! Dual GTX1080 FTW Edition ACX 3.0
2016/09/29 21:02:16
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moknowsbest
Cool GTX
AHowes
You have the option of linking both card together or seperate in precision X. I believe it'd the same in afterburner.
I've tried unlinking in precision X a week ago and it didn't work. Whatever settings I set it did for both cards. Maybe it works for older cards or maybe cards not runing in sli.
I used to always use afterburner but this time I like precision X since I understand it now. Back when was hard to find what I was looking for.
Though I can't get it to load with Windows even though I have it set to load on boot up. I always have to wait for Windows to finish loading and then open it.. hopefully it works right when I install win10 pro fresh this time.
Currently stuck on the phone till I finish building the new rig. :/
You HAVE to use Precision X OC, with the 10 series GPU.
You can unlink them and then push apply button
I have Precision X 16 installed. is that ok or it's the wrong version?? should i be using 6.05 or something? :/
how do people benchmark... by unlinking them ?
I would update the Precision X 16 as EVGA made Precision X OC for the 10 series cards and it has more features Sometimes the two GPUs will Not OC to the same setting. Unlinking will allow the "better" GPU to be OC higher than the other one.
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