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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/14 17:42:13
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it's not just that the cable is in the way but high powered cards send electrical noise through the audio cable as well when the cards are running full speed in game, so right angle will not fix that issue, but thanks for the reply.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 07:49:34
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Jacob, and is there any technical reason behind not including the legacy PS/2 ports? I just wonder, many motherboard manufacturers out there seem to include that. Or is this a marketing strategy of EVGA to provide legacy-free hardware? BTW, is there any more USB 3.0 besides the rear panel and one on-board connector on the board? That seems to be the trend for the high-end boards nowadays, or is it a matter of bandwidth of the P67 platform?
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 08:33:19
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 08:38:29
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$200 for a FTW board? I really doubt that. Although if it happens, holy tap dancing christ! This needs to be out soon.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 08:56:34
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I know, they will go like hot cakes
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 08:56:55
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They must've mixed that up the P67 SLI. A FTW board for $200..... wait wait wait, didn't we have the possibility to buy a P55 FTW board for below $200 at some point? The P67 platform is positioned right there where the P55 used to be, so the price must remain competitive. The only thing that bothers me, is that this one has an nForce 200 on it, so it's more like the FTW 200, not the regular FTW, and that one was higher than $200, more like $220 or $230 or so, maybe even more, don't remember now.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 09:10:31
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Jacob, good to see your back. I really like what I see here. I hope the water blocks will be soon to follow.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 09:12:08
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Maybe the low price is EVGA's way of saying sorry for the delay
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 10:15:23
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Yes, that's what I've been thinking as well. There seem to be few strategies for recovering from this delay. OTOH, to all of the people here ranting about the product availability, but then, has any company or standards institution like ISO enforced any sort of schedule on the product design process and readiness dates? No. They're all free to choose their timeframe, and then, EVGA is quite a specific brand, you know, and they have their special sort of audience, which will wait for their product regardless of any delays. And of course, the main question (a rhetorical one): Do we all need to change platforms urgently, immediately after their market availability, not just for "being modern and up-to-date" sake, but are there any objective reasons? I bet for most of us the answer is "no". So it's a rant no more.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 10:39:01
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I've been very critical lately of EVGA's mobo team for the delays. I also didn't understand why they couldn't publish the FTW specs. At least now we have something to go on! Oh, and that price seems really fair. I might have jumped the gun with my criticism (although there can be no question that EVGA hasn't handled the delays optimally).
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 10:46:57
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I'll believe the $200 price tag when the P67 SLI is re-listed on the Products page for less than $199...there's no way a company would sell their regular board and FTW Edition for the same price
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 11:44:10
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The $200 price point has to be in incorrect. But at least we're seeing something. So hopefully it's close. BTW, there are a lot of comments, considering.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 12:14:42
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Night Gyr Jacob, and is there any technical reason behind not including the legacy PS/2 ports? I just wonder, many motherboard manufacturers out there seem to include that. Or is this a marketing strategy of EVGA to provide legacy-free hardware? BTW, is there any more USB 3.0 besides the rear panel and one on-board connector on the board? That seems to be the trend for the high-end boards nowadays, or is it a matter of bandwidth of the P67 platform? Well actually the chipset does not natively support PS2! But also the though process on the EVGA P67 was to focus on the latest in technology. Secondly, the EVGA P67 FTW board has an exhaust fan right at that location on the I/O, so no room for PS2. http://twitpic.com/4f5paz
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 12:14:50
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Sorry guys, it looks like the Techpowerup article is wrong. They are getting their info from http://www.tcmagazine.com...pping-p67-sli-incomingWhich states the P67 Sli is $200, not FTW ... aah wishful thinking EVGA if you are listening maybe you should offer special FTW pricing for users that just purchased a GTX 5 series card....
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 12:33:21
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Well, I hope the FTW isn't too overpriced.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 13:09:31
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Jacob, Can you tell me if it has an optical port for audio. I use a receiver and speakers for my computer and I was curious if the board has it or will I need to get a sound card. Thanks.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 13:17:52
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youeyemind Jacob, Can you tell me if it has an optical port for audio. I use a receiver and speakers for my computer and I was curious if the board has it or will I need to get a sound card. Thanks. Sorry, no optical.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 13:45:45
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I'll say this the FTW better not be more then $269 or I might as well get a AME4.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/15 17:14:27
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konohahokage I'll say this the FTW better not be more then $269 or I might as well get a AME4. Agreed. The Arock Professional Fatality can be had for that price and the Arock Extreme 6 is even less and both of those boards look like they have way more SATA III & USB 3 connections than the FTW. Of course, I don't know for sure because EVGA won't release the FTW specs (HINT, HINT!). By the way, in case anyone thinks I'm crazy to mention Arock... http://www.techspot.com/review/380-intel-p67-motherboard-roundup/page25.html
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 01:34:11
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Jacob, So the eVGA P67 lineup is geared towards gamers and computer enthusiasts alike, but not towards regular people that want to get their job done, right? The absence of PS/2, S/PDIF (yes, I know there's an on-board S/PDIF header, but then we have to buy a bracket), and PCI proves that. I mean, people who need these simple tinges will likely go GB or ASUS... me probably too... what a pity. P.S. I was thinking about the P55 FTW. It had everything listed above and even Power e-SATA (!) Which is now very rare, and of course not available on any of the EVGA boards. That bored was a real FTW, can't say that about this one.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 02:22:22
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All i want to know is if the P67 FTW will work PCI Express @ 16x/16x with space between the cards... that's all i want... if is yes then probably i am going to get it. Currently if i want to get 16x/16x with my Maximus IV Extreme... card have to be installed next to the other so there is no space between the vcards...
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 02:45:05
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Guys... could you just explain me why you want to SLI those 570s/580s? A single 580 is a monster per se, absolutely unbearable as far as noise and hat go, but why would you even think about SLI'ing them? Do all of you have triple monitors? And do those monitors have huge resolutions?
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 03:13:44
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If one 570/580 is enough for you good for you... But that does not entitle you to question what other people want... simply each people has their own requirements. So let the demagogues to another forum dedicated to that.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 03:28:01
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To be honest with you, for a single 460 is more than enough. And it's pretty noisy actually. So I can't even imagine using a 580 in your regular rig. Well, if you play with headphones, full music and sounds on... then it's ok. Anyway, all those 570s/580s (as is most of the video card hardware) are created simply to conduct business on the so-called "enthusiasts", and the video game industry helps them in that. That's some good cooperation they have with the PC games business. Have you ever thought why these high hardware requirements exist? They code their games in such a way that they require far more than is actually needed for them to run. You can't see the code hence this business is a success. And it will always be a success as long as the "my {car, video card, house, girlfriend, whatever} is better than yours" lives in the human brain. Capitalism, that is.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 05:38:43
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Thanks Jacob for taking the time to answer some of the questions presented in this thread and thank you to everyone who is contributing  The picture given on facebook looks like the Classified shown, as Jacob promised. The real question now is price, if the board sells between $200-$250 its good value, over that and I would say wait for Z68. The Z68 board will be around the same price as P67, just something to remember :p oh and release for Z68 is May 9th (motherboards might release a little later). When we get closer to the 9th we should ask Jacob if EVGA is going to release Z68 board with the competition or be late.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 05:49:04
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Based on some of the information out there, the FTW will have 16x/16x. So that's a good thing.
Secondly don't confuse the 570/580 with the 480. The 480 was loud, the 580 is fairly quite unless you're running the fan at 100%, but there's really no need to do that. Even while folding and OCd 65% is enough to keep temps down.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 07:07:02
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From what i have seen with my 2 580s they run really quiet. I really don't hear them at all. Oh yeah, they aren't installed yet cause I am waiting for my P67 board from EVGA....hahahaha
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 09:03:06
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My two 580 are very quite! They are water cooled! Jacob, if I use my SteelSeries 6GV2 Keyboard PS/2 with PS/2 USB adapter will I get the same full keyboard awesomness?
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 09:15:35
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OK let's see, it differs from the regular cards in two ways (regarding cooling of course): -it uses a vapor chamber -it uses a turbine The vapor chamber is simply a means of transporting the heat from the GPU to the heatsink, so it may only reduce the GPU temps, but at the same time, increase the heatsink temperature and thus create more job for the fan. So it cannot make the video card quieter, but only cooler. The turbine is a better cooling mechanism compared to the regular single fan once again, as it throws the hot air out of the video card case and, more important, the PC case. The regular fan also recycles some of the hot air it throws into the PC case, especially if there is not enough airflow in your case. So in the end, the 580 cooling mechanism may be more effective in removing heat from the GPU, but it definitely cannot be quieter than its regular single-fan (or even dual-fan) cousins like the 460 reference and the like. P.S. That said, my Gigabyte 8800GTS 320Mb is one of the quietest video cards I've ever seen. In fact, the quietest one under load. And if any of you still remember those, they have an EE cooler.
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re: EVGA P67 FTW/Classified Discussion
2011/04/16 10:33:54
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If you think GTX570/580 fan is louder @100%... then try HD6950/6970 fan @ 60%... And after that... come again and tell us if still you think GTX580 fan is louder... Is not only Vapor Chamber... it also has bigger blower compared to GTX480... so it can move more air with less rpm... Less RPM = quieter. Also, adding another cards, let's say 2... does not mean you will get louder twice...
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