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Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot

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2016/05/26 13:46:16 (permalink)
Hey guys,

First time poster, long time fan (sorry, couldn't resist). My CPU has long seemed to be the bottleneck of my computer, so I recently took up overclocking. This isn't a thread to ask so much *how* to overclock (I know the basics and have successfully done it a bit), but how to deal with an overclock gone bad.

Long story short, I saved settings to the CMOS that made the RAM run too fast and now my computer will not boot. It successfully booted (I heard the good motherboard beep) once, but there was no screen. On subsequent boots, it will not get even that far. All the components I can hear and see run are running, the GPU, CPU, power supply, fans, my motherboard has all the indicator lights on -- but it's not starting. The POST LED displays F3 and F6 before 01, which I understand to mean it doesn't see the RAM, or thinks there's an error with it. Another strange symptom is that my USB ports on the back and front aren't getting power anymore -- though that may have to do with resetting the CMOS. This is the most worrying part to me because I can't figure it out.

I have turned off my computer and pressed the Reset CMOS button multiple times to the same effect, also leading me to believe it must be a RAM or other hardware issue.

So, my question to you guys: am I on the right track here? With these symptoms, does it sound like the RAM, or am I totally off-base here? Also, what do you make of the no power to USB situation?

Here are my specifications:

GPU: GTX 770
CPU: Intel i7 950
Motherboard: EVGA x58 SLI 3
Power Supply: Corsair TX750W
RAM: 8 GB DDR3 Corsair @ 1866 MHz
Windows 10 on a 500 GB Samsung SSD 850 Evo
(Extra terabyte for storage)

Thanks!
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    tucker147
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 14:44:13 (permalink)
    Try holding the clear CMOS button down for at least 10 sec.



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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 16:07:36 (permalink)
    Thanks for the tip! I tried that, but it didn't have any effect.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 16:14:15 (permalink)
    Remove the CMOS battery and wait at least 10 seconds. This will reset everything back to default.


     
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 16:18:37 (permalink)
    Thanks! Perhaps I should have been more specific in my first post -- I have also tried this. I pressed and held down the CMOS button, both the external one and the one inside my case, I have removed the battery, waited a bit, and put it back in. That's why I believe it's no longer a CMOS issue, but a RAM one.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 16:30:25 (permalink)
    Hmm, well, try each stick of ram individually (try them in multiple diferent slots too) and see if it'll boot.



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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 16:41:16 (permalink)
    Tried one of my RAM sticks in every slot -- no dice. Still getting F3/F6 on POST, everything powers up except there's no screen and no USB port power.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 16:48:58 (permalink)
    Update: my other RAM stick also leads to the same effect in every slot.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 16:52:33 (permalink)
    Also, though I'm not sure how much this helps -- if I've reset the CMOS, the power stops and starts at the beginning -- as in it very quickly stops, and just as abruptly starts again.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 16:59:16 (permalink)
    Any other DDR3 ram stick that you have around to try? Your board does not have appear to have a backup BIOS. I don't see any F3/F6 value in the manual. You might need to contact eVGA support to find out what is F3/F6


     
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 17:03:06 (permalink)
    I've searched around online and F3/F6 has to do with memory -- either the RAM being bad or poorly seated, or worse, the motherboard trying to run it in a way it can't be. Still, I figured the latter isn't possible after resetting the CMOS.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 17:10:57 (permalink)
    Yeah that is odd. Removing the battery should reset everything to default. Try to borrow memory stick from another machine and see if you can get it to boot. Last resort contact evga support.


     
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 17:12:03 (permalink)
    Hudley
    Also, though I'm not sure how much this helps -- if I've reset the CMOS, the power stops and starts at the beginning -- as in it very quickly stops, and just as abruptly starts again.

    That's normal, all of my EVGA X58 boards do that.
     
    What settings did you use exactly for your oc if you remember?
     
    The only things I can think of doing now are re-seating the CPU, GPU, Power cables, Ect. and if that fails then test the system outside of the case (Eg. On a cardboard box), which is a pain I know but I've looked around a little about this issue and it seems to be caused by a short to ground from what I've read. It's weird that it would only show up after trying to oc though. 



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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 17:25:05 (permalink)
    @tucker147 That *will* be a pain, but worth trying. For the overclock settings, I remember this was the first overclock I had done where I felt like I needed to pump up the CPU Vcore a bit. Before I had just done ocs with really low CPU clock ratios, lower RAM speeds, just so I could isolate the CPU host frequency, tinker with it up to 160. I did those without a hitch, so I bumped up to around 170, increased the clock ratios and accordingly gave the Vcore more juice. Before the Vcore was at 1.03 v by default, and most OC'd specs end up around 1.3 vcore, so I figured I had some head room in that department. So the source of this nonsense could either be CPU or RAM. I'll reseat the CPU just in case -- the only thing I haven't reseated at this point, just because it's a pain with the extra fan on top and everything.

    ...suffice it to say, I guess I didn't have as much leeway as I thought, ha. Also, sidenote: "all" of your X58 boards? How many do you have? That's impressive.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 17:26:39 (permalink)
    @LFaWolf There's actually some RAM on its way. I'll see how that works in a couple of days, (as well as tucker's suggestions) and should all that fail, yeah, off to support for me.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 17:56:00 (permalink)
    That's a reasonable oc albeit with the vcore a bit low, I think my 920 needed around 1.4v for 4.1GHz, though it's not a good chip.

    Hopefully one of those troubleshooting methods will get your board working again.

    I should've put "both of my evga x58 boards".
    I have an X58 SLI LE & a X58 Classified 4way sli. I do have a third one but it's a gigabyte X58A-OC.



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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 19:29:48 (permalink)
    Alright, I've put in a few other sticks of RAM I had lying around, and they didn't work -- though one of them got the POST stuck on F3, rather than cycling between F3 and F6 super quickly and then going to 01. I also reseated everything within the case, CPU, GPU, power, unplugged the motherboard from everything and assembled from scratch. This also got to the same non-effect (but not worse off, which is nice).

    That just makes me think it may be the short to ground thing rather than RAM -- only one way to find out. What's the most painless way to move my entire system onto a cardboard box? I have nice wiring and everything tucked behind the motherboard and I don't necessarily want to uproot all of that, if possible.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 19:51:46 (permalink)
    Silly question, but have you tried removing the CMOS battery AND the power cord and letting it sit disconnected for an hour or two?
     
    This should, with no uncertainty, clear all BIOS settings out. 
     
    At one point I thought I burned out my X58 Classified 4-way board, but doing this brought it back after a botched OC setting.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 19:56:37 (permalink)
    I'll try just that! See you in two hours :D
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/26 23:41:24 (permalink)
    So, no uncertainty, the BIOS settings are not the issue. I left it sitting for three hours, no CMOS battery, no power cord, and -- nothing. I also unplugged the other hard drive, the one without my Windows install on it in case the default BIOS settings were getting my boot priority mixed up. However, this didn't change anything either.

    ...cardboard box here I come.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/27 21:06:17 (permalink)
    I hope I am not too late with this suggestion - you could try a basic video card if you have one before taking the board out.


     
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/05/27 23:43:07 (permalink)
    Unfortunately, I don't have one. I've taken some measures in case it's grounding -- I found a bit where my after market cooler, which has an apparatus mounted on the back of my motherboard to hold the screws in, touched the case. I put a little slip of cardboard there to prevent that, still nada. In the meantime, I've found a cheap replacement i7 950 and RAM -- both with 30 day returns. If neither of those work, it has to be my power supply, though I find that unlikely. Going through *every* possible problem at this point. I'll let you guys know how it goes!
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/06/07 10:47:07 (permalink)
    Alright! After a long and arduous wait for the RAM and CPU (the only reasonably priced 950s are used and ship slowly on eBay), I tried both... And nothing. Far past the point of no return on warranty for any of these items, as I got them in 2010. The only reasons can now be the motherboard and power supply. That's pretty much the end of it.

    Thank you all so much for the help! It was a pleasure chatting with you and learning more about "failure to post" bug testing, if nothing else.
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    Re: Overclocking Intel i7 950, x58 SLI 3 Motherboard Troubleshooting No Boot 2016/06/11 21:37:16 (permalink)
    Before you give up on the motherboard, order a new bios chip for it and try that. Pretty cheap on ebay, so not much cost to try one.

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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