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2014/09/05 23:13:29 (permalink)
I've had my 780Ti Superclocked editions since they first came out.  I've always kept a 100mhz core and 150mhz memory overclock on them.  If I go to 200mhz on the memory I can get some artifacting in a stress test benchmark program or it might even outright  crash back to desktop.  I'm curious if I should try overvolting them to be able to go higher?  I have never tried over volting a graphics card so I just wonder how dangerous it is or if it is even worth it to get another 50mhz or could it actually allow for alike another 150mhz or something. 
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/06 06:58:19 (permalink)
    If you're going for higher benchmark scores, then more voltage will probably allow for a higher OC to some degree depending on temps and PT limits.
     
    In my testing with gaming and OC'ing my 780Ti, I found that no OC at all nets the same benefit with a factory vbios.  I say this because even a simple +26 bump on the core offset makes the card exceed the 106% power target limit most of the time which of course throttles the card down to the factory OC anyway.  So even when I use my stable benchmark clocks (+117 core, +195 mem) for gaming, most of the time I find I'm running back down to the factory boost of 1124Mhz core due to the PT limit.
     
    That has been what I've found.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/06 12:22:50 (permalink)
    So your saying a custom bios can have more benefit then overvolting?
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/06 13:43:54 (permalink)
    A custom vbios would allow for a higher power target along with higher voltage.  The power target with the stock vbios is the limiting factor from what I experience.
     
    Once you're able to increase the PT above the factory 106%, you should be able to OC higher to some degree.  At that point, the temp(s) and the chip itself will determine how high you can OC even with a higher PT and voltage.  All chips are different and will OC to varying degree's.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/06 14:10:06 (permalink)
    Sounds interesting, I am assuming there are not links on evga.com for 780ti superclock custom bios that allows for 106+ power targets?
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/06 14:32:58 (permalink)
    Read through this >>  http://www.overclock.net/t/1452223/kepler-bios-tweaker-v1-26-v1-27-added-tdp-unlock-gtx-780ti-780-titan-gtx770
    You'll gain some more info and instructions, etc...


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/06 14:50:59 (permalink)
    Thanks for that.  I guess I am more interested in increasing the default 106% power limit then I am increasing voltage.  Will this program allow me to increase the default power limit without unlocking the voltage or touching the voltage?
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/06 15:01:47 (permalink)
    You're welcome.
     
    I think with the Kepler bios tweaker software, you may be able to increase only what you want then flash it to your card(s).  I'm not 100% on it.  You'd have to read through it to know for sure.  I'm sure in those 30+ pages, you'll find the answer and the know how...  I just never had a lot of interest in going that route so never looked into it thoroughly.
     
    If you decide to try it out, post back with your results and thoughts on it...


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 16:29:24 (permalink)
    I read through it.  The part I don't understand and I think they assume some level of knowledge of the program is how to make it work with Nvflash.  The Bios tweaker just opens up blank and I think your supposed to use Nflash with it so that it reads the bios file.  But I haven't been able to figure that part out. 
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 16:36:57 (permalink)
    Which vBIOS are you currently running on your cards? Download & run GPU-Z to get your current vBIOS versions. e.g. 80.80.30.00.80 
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 16:42:34 (permalink)
    First card is running:      80.80.34.00.80 (P2083-0030)
    Second card is running: 80.80.30.00.80 (P2083-0030)
     
    So I guess the first card has a slightly newer bios?
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 16:46:33 (permalink)
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    First card is running:      80.80.34.00.80 (P2083-0030)
    Second card is running: 80.80.30.00.80 (P2083-0030)
     
    So I guess the first card has a slightly newer bios?


    Both your cards are EVGA 780 TI SC ACX? One card could be using different memory, this would explain the difference in vBIOS between the two. You can check to see if both cards are using the same memory type inside GPU-Z. 
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 16:53:58 (permalink)
    Not the ACX but the regular superclocks with reference cooler.  Both are listed as GDDR5 Hynix if that is the type your referring to
     
     
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 16:59:12 (permalink)
    Yes, that is what I was talking about. You should go here... http://www.overclock.net/...gtx-780-ti-owners-club
     
    Download skyn3t-780TiSCACX.zip and flash it to your card. The vBIOS will allow you to increase PT to 200%. 
     
     
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:07:20 (permalink)
    Use the Ezflash on the site to flash it?
     
    These don't void the warranty do they?
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:10:49 (permalink)
    Yes, or you can use nvflash. Don't forget to create a backup of your original vBIOS for each card before flashing. Only flash one card at a time in case something goes wrong.
     
    Using a modded vBIOS does void the warranty, but as long as you put the original vBIOS back on before sending to EVGA you will be OK.
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:12:03 (permalink)
    Do you think increasing the power target will allow for more overclocking headroom?  oh and it doesn't void the warranty correct?
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:12:35 (permalink)
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    Do you think increasing the power target will allow for more overclocking headroom?


    Yes, the vBIOS unlocks the voltage to 1.212v too.
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:13:12 (permalink)
    Relatively safe?  No warranty issues?
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:15:53 (permalink)
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    Relatively safe?  No warranty issues?


    There is always a chance you could damage your card when overclocking it, just don't push it to far and you will be OK.
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:20:44 (permalink)
    This is basically the commands to use?
     
     *PS: In order for this tool to work you must place it in the same
    * nvflash directory and rename the vBios to "x.rom"

    # 1. nvflash --protectoff      " This disable EEprom "
    # 2. nvflash --save            " This will save the stock bios or vBios before flash "
    # 3. nvflash -4 -5 -6          " Normal Flash "
    # 4. nvflash -override -6      " Override GPU ID mismatch "

    * Use this options to flash each individual GPU in different order
    * and if you have *PLX chip* or if any those command above fail to flash.

    # 5.  nvflash -i0 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #1 "
    # 6.  nvflash -i1 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #2 "
    # 7.  nvflash -i2 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #3 "
    # 8.  nvflash -i3 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #4 "
    # 9.  nvflash -i4 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #5 "
    # 10. nvflash -i5 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #6 "
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:21:45 (permalink)
    I would type steps 1 through 6 in the command prompt?
     
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:27:15 (permalink)
    1,2,3,4,5 First, Reboot PC to make sure your first flashed card is OK, then 1,2,3,4,6 for 2nd card.
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:39:11 (permalink)
    doesn't seem to be saving my default bios.  The command prompt screen goes away before I can see what it says but I think it said something about needing to name it something?  Is there something I need to add after this command prompt that picks a name or location for it?  nvflash --save
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:42:39 (permalink)
    the vBIOS must be renamed to x.rom. 
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:44:26 (permalink)
    No I mean the default bios.  I'm only on step 2 where I would save my default bios "nvflash --save ".  A command prompt pops up and I can make out something about needing to name the bios then it goes away.  And there is no saved bios in the folder i'm working out of.  So I don't think it is saving my old default bios. 
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:48:23 (permalink)
    Try process=2,5
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:48:28 (permalink)
    It says Error: no file name specified after nvflash --save
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:49:51 (permalink)
    You can backup your vBIOS using GPU-Z.
     
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    Re: Overclocking 780Ti SLI 2014/09/07 17:55:03 (permalink)
    Sorry for all the questions.  When I typed nvflash -i0 -4 -5 -6 it didn't appear to do anything but launch another nvflash window with a list of the available commands and options. 
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