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2016/06/28 16:15:21 (permalink)
Hi, so I have my 5930k overclocked to 4.4 ghz. I am using the Noctua U12s push/pull  for the HSF. I just ran Aida 64 stress test and my max temp on the CPU was 91c. Is this super high? I know that when I play a game it won't be nearly this high will probably be around 75-80c. I am using Noctua NT-H1 as TIM.
 
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/28 16:23:45 (permalink)
    I am not familiar with that Noctua U12s push/pull coolers performance. But just for comparison I have my 5930k at 4.5 1.21 volts being cooled by a 480mm of radiator in its own loop and being summer it peaks at 58 under synthetic load still.  It a hot chip. Also, I think 91C is thermal throttle temp on this chip. 
     
    Pick up an AIO like the EK predator or swiftech h240x2 corsair h110i etc., or some water cooling if you can afford it. 
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/28 16:31:50 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info. I am going to down clock it to 4.2 I'm sure it will be much cooler. I tell you temp after I change it!
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/28 16:36:32 (permalink)
    Are you having to add voltage to reach those clocks? The voltage is really what make the most temp diff.

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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/28 16:38:49 (permalink)
    There are some pretty amazing OC er on here and I am sure one will see this post on and have some good tips too.
     

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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/28 16:48:43 (permalink)
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    Are you having to add voltage to reach those clocks? The voltage is really what make the most temp diff.




    I am just doing the Auto OC and XMP. What should I set my CPU Voltage mode to? It's on Adaptive right now should I set it to Auto? So I just dropped down to 4.2 GHZ ran Aida again and my max temp is 78c. Huge drop for just 200 MHZ. 
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/28 16:53:24 (permalink)
    Auto OC always seems to add way more voltage than is required. I have tried MSI genie and ASUS recent iterations and they always do this. I would do the OC manually. Adaptive will just allow less voltage on downclock some people like this others dont. I use adaptive 

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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/28 16:58:09 (permalink)
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    Auto OC always seems to add way more voltage than is required. I have tried MSI genie and ASUS recent iterations and they always do this. I would do the OC manually. Adaptive will just allow less voltage on downclock some people like this others dont. I use adaptive 


    I'm not sure what I should set it to manually.
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/29 07:11:27 (permalink)
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    Auto OC always seems to add way more voltage than is required. I have tried MSI genie and ASUS recent iterations and they always do this. I would do the OC manually. Adaptive will just allow less voltage on downclock some people like this others dont. I use adaptive 


    +1.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/29 07:16:26 (permalink)
    I use the adaptive voltage mode setting with a CPU offset voltage.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/29 10:50:21 (permalink)
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    I use the adaptive voltage mode setting with a CPU offset voltage.


    What should I set my offset to?
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/29 13:16:39 (permalink)
    All CPU's overclock a little different.  There is no one size fits all.  It will take a little trial and error on your part.  My CPU needs a +130 offset for stability at 4.4GHz.  Yours may need more, maybe less.
     
    You could start with what I'm using (+130) and run your Aida stress test.  If you feel your stable, you could try backing down 5 to +125 and test again.  Up to you.  If you aren't stable at 130, up it +10 more and test again.
     
    Let us know how things go and what you ended up at.  Post back if you have any further questions...


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/29 13:50:40 (permalink)
    Some of the nomenclature on Mobos is different also just so your aware of this. I am not familiar with asrock boards.
    Offset is a great method. I usually just use set voltage though. I have headroom with my cooling so i just set multiplier to my desired level and then set the voltage to a known safe but high level and test. Then i back the voltage off till it crashes. My method is not good though unless you have cooling headroom and are not trying to find max OC. I just knew I wanted to hit 4.5 with my chip and started that way. 

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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/29 15:47:45 (permalink)
    So there really is no reason to set the offset if I already have a stable OC.
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 06:37:55 (permalink)
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    So there really is no reason to set the offset if I already have a stable OC.


    That's true, if you don't mind such high temps when they're not neccessary.  That's up to you.
     
    As was mentioned above, using "auto" vcore voltage will use higher than needed voltage in most cases when overclocking.  You should be able to use a lower vcore for a stable overclock using either an offset or a fixed vcore voltage you manually set.  This will result in better temps.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 07:59:58 (permalink)
    So currently I'm in fixed mode the voltage is 1.85 volts. If I change it to offset it makes the value something like 0.010 so should I change it to offset  0.130?
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 10:28:05 (permalink)
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    So currently I'm in fixed mode the voltage is 1.85 volts. If I change it to offset it makes the value something like 0.010 so should I change it to offset  0.130?


    That can't be your Vcore voltage.  1.85v for Vcore is way to high.
     
    I'm not familiar with Asrocks BIOS layout, but most settings for CPU & Memory voltages for any of the X99 lineup should be similar.  You should see something like a "CPU Voltage Mode" which would include settings like "Auto", "Fixed", "Adaptive", "Override", etc.  If you want to try out adaptive mode, you select it there.
     
    Then you would look for something like a CPU offset Voltage where you can set an offset voltage.  So in this example, +130 is 130mV or .130v.  That will then add up to 130mV to the stock voltage as the CPU load goes up.
     
    If you still have any further questions, maybe you could post a few BIOS pics showing your CPU & voltage settings.
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 10:33:13 (permalink)
    In CPUID vcore is .912v so all I should change is off set +.130? 
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 10:45:56 (permalink)
    Yes.  Your vcore voltage mode you'd want is adaptive, and your offset voltage at +130 (for a 4.4GHz OC).  That would be a good place to start.  Run your Aida stress test then to check your temps and stability.  If you BSOD or in some way fail the stability test, bump the offset up to +140 and test again.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 10:47:40 (permalink)
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    Yes.  Your vcore voltage mode you'd want is adaptive, and your offset voltage at +130 (for a 4.4GHz OC).  That would be a good place to start.  Run your Aida stress test then to check your temps and stability.  If you BSOD or in some way fail the stability test, bump the offset up to +140 and test again.


    OK cool I will try this and get back to you :)
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 10:48:41 (permalink)
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    Yes.  Your vcore voltage mode you'd want is adaptive, and your offset voltage at +130 (for a 4.4GHz OC).  That would be a good place to start.  Run your Aida stress test then to check your temps and stability.  If you BSOD or in some way fail the stability test, bump the offset up to +140 and test again.


    OK cool I will try this and get back to you :)


    Sounds good...


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 11:41:27 (permalink)
    I just tried what you suggested tried an boot .130+ on offset froze on boot. Did +.140 froze again. So I just set it back to auto oc 4.0ghz ran AIDA and am getting 69c max. Until I get a water cooler don't think I will go any higher. Do you think 400 mhz would make any huge difference in actual gaming? One other question. I was wondering if it's fine to use a program like this? https://bitsum.com/parkcontrol/ I use the highest performance profile.
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 12:01:00 (permalink)
    Without actually seeing what all your BIOS settings are, it's hard to know why you couldn't even boot at those settings.  In any case, running at 4.0GHz compared to 4.4 won't show much of a difference if any on your 5930 in real world type stuff in my opinion.  If you were running 2 or 3 high end GPU's you may see a little bump in FPS.
     
    As far as the core parking software you linked to.  Do you show somewhere you have parked cores?  I used to run software similar to that on my X79 with Win7.  Next time I boot up I'll have to load Win7 (on W10 now) and see if cores are being parked.  I don't see that on Win10.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/06/30 12:42:23 (permalink)
    I'm going to add a side panel intake 140mm fan that will make 3x140mm case fans 1 on front intake the side one and the exhaust. It would be nice to see a couple degrees difference from one fan ;)
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/07/01 05:37:44 (permalink)
    Hey, I fixed it! I was researching some about airflow in cases. I decided to take my rear exhaust fan and turn it to intake so it's blowing on my HSF. I then orientated my HSF accordingly. My front intake fan I set to exhaust. I also removed the side panel. I am now idling at 30c and 63c during hour long Doom session.
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    Re: Overclocked 5930k temperature question. 2016/07/01 09:27:48 (permalink)
    Glad to hear you were able to get your temps down...
     
    I looked at my Win7 OS for core parking.  On my Win7, there are cores being parked.  On my Win10, there aren't.  When I set up my dual boot on my X99, I forgot I used to use Park Control with my Win7 on X79.  I think it's the same program you linked to above. 


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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