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2011/11/19 18:39:51 (permalink)
Is there enough interest in spreading EVGA to other projects than WCG?  So far from what I've read, the team name has to be the same across multiple projects.  If there's interest, I'm willing to crunch under Collatz, Cosmology, Einstein, Enigma, Milkyway, Orbit, PrimeGir, SETI and YoYo in addition to WCG....
 
Maybe if we get a list together of the projects everyone is willing to crunch for as an EVGA team, we can come up with a team name or we can stick with using WCG@EVGA for all of them?



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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:11:18 (permalink)
There is a team setup with most projects called DC@EVGA that was setup by another forum member here. We could use that one or if you think its better, setup a new one.
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:11:58 (permalink)
Help me better understand the question...
 
Are you suggesting changing the name? Or is the WCG not capable of adding the other projects into a single place? Or is this for future projects??
 
I hate to offer thoughts when I am not clear on yours... I do love the idea of a wide range of options. After all... That is why I chose to do WCG three years (Ish) ago.. I loved the flexibility... But I also recognize that there are a lot of other BOINC's and other projects now... Heck I know of at least ten more... But they are all scattered... At least WCG offers different possibilities...
 
Sorry if I am missing something...
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:18:02 (permalink)
Wait... I think it sank in...
 
I can say this.. Once a team name is made.. It cannot be edited in WCG... So we need to change quickly and get everyone over to the new name if that is what everyone decides... As all the points Stay with the name... User and team... Just look at mine... 411 had a change and all the old points earned with the old 411 stayed... Users kept their points of course... (Link)
 
I debated doing BOINC@EVGA and DC@EVGA... But I see linux suggests DC is already used.. I just did not find it in my search...
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:21:27 (permalink)
There is the option to setup a team for each BOINC project like WCG@EVGA is setup for WCG. Then there is also the option to setup a boinc-wide team where the team would be available across all BOINC projects.
 
Here is a link with more information:
 
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/teams/
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:23:03 (permalink)
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Help me better understand the question...

Are you suggesting changing the name? Or is the WCG not capable of adding the other projects into a single place? Or is this for future projects??

I hate to offer thoughts when I am not clear on yours... I do love the idea of a wide range of options. After all... That is why I chose to do WCG three years (Ish) ago.. I loved the flexibility... But I also recognize that there are a lot of other BOINC's and other projects now... Heck I know of at least ten more... But they are all scattered... At least WCG offers different possibilities...

Sorry if I am missing something...

It's probably me and having problems explaining stuff....  Our WCG@EVGA team only tracks members on the team and only under WCG.  For members who want to contribute to the EVGA team and run other projects, each project needs an EVGA team with the same name.  If there was a SETI@EVGA team created under SETI, it'll only track SETI points.  But if there was a team DC@EVGA, like linuxrouter noted, under SETI and WCG, it will track both projects.  So the one team name would have multiple projects, a rank in each project and a combined project rank.
 
I wouldn't mind joining a team already in existence if every EVGA project team had the same name....



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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:25:02 (permalink)
Something for AB to look at or both teams to look at
 
http://www.dc-vault.com/
please look at this
 
and projects
http://www.dc-vault.com/projects.php
 
both folding@home and WCG are part of DC-vault
(and others like seti@home)
 
hmmm ...combined points?
 
 

 
   


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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:27:02 (permalink)
So what do you want to do. This makes total sense. But if we cannot change the name to a more appropriate name and soon... A lot of points and momentum could be lost.
 
And lets keep talking this through... If this is to happen I see that a never to change email and name has to be created.. That is a major roll to fill long term...
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:33:02 (permalink)
One more thing... I know it is impossible to know what a person is feeling or really saying in text (Cannot see body language)... But I love the idea of every member being able to contribute where they want for team EVGA... I just do not want to cause pause or issues as we are just getting this area going. And I do not think this suggestion would cause any issues. I think it actually solves a few
 
This is the DC Category... Not WCG WCG is just several DC's in one place
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:34:40 (permalink)
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Something for AB to look at or both teams to look at

http://www.dc-vault.com/
please look at this

and projects
http://www.dc-vault.com/projects.php

both folding@home and WCG are part of DC-vault
(and others like seti@home)

hmmm ...combined points?



NOICE!!! That has F@H in it as well... I think Linux presented that the other day too...
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:37:36 (permalink)
I would LOVE for my SETI points to go towards our DC as a TEAM.  So whatever needs to be done, I'm in.   I stopped (SETI only) for a bit to see if we were going to join a DC team that would include ALL of the projects...since one the points are earned, they cannot be transferred.
 
 

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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:42:07 (permalink)
whatever needs to be done needs to be done quickly so everyone can change over to what we need
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:44:01 (permalink)
Here is a listing of the projects falling under DC@EVGA currently:
 
http://allprojectstats.com/showteam.php?projekt=0&id=1363845
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:44:40 (permalink)
http://www.dc-vault.com/search.php
 
Just did a name search... Nothing in the vault has EVGA in the name... SO we could be creative!
 
Correct me if I am wrong.. But it looks like (Link) The names may not need to be matching...
 
If so the teams names could be anything... So WCG@EVGA and folding@evga could be used as they are right now no changes...
 
Man if that is true I am really excited about the Vault option at this point...
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:46:55 (permalink)
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Here is a listing of the projects falling under DC@EVGA currently:

http://allprojectstats.com/showteam.php?projekt=0&id=1363845

Do we know the owner?
 
Is this better or similar to the vault?
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:49:54 (permalink)
I forgot to change some settings so when I added all my projects back, it downloaded a bunch of gpu stuff, most take between 2-20 min, I'm holding off on those until everything gets figured out.  I'm ok with whatever we do as long as my projects are included and it's for EVGA....



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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:52:29 (permalink)
actually you would need to contact some members from DC-Vault
to see how it works
 
there was a post on one of the threads(either in here or FAH) from one of the DC-vault teams.
forums here
http://www.team-ninja.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=110
 
read
http://www.team-ninja.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=37292
 
so you only have to have the same name for all projects...from what I figure
 
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 19:59:57 (permalink)
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actually you would need to contact some members from DC-Vault
to see how it works

there was a post on one of the threads(either in here or FAH) from one of the DC-vault teams.
forums here
http://www.team-ninja.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=110


Ok... My head is spinning... Maybe all this WCG effort used up what was left in my brain cell...
 
Can anyone find in their forum how this works? Most threads in problems and suggestions are over a year old
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 20:04:56 (permalink)
sorry - AB (watch out for jet wash)
I edited and added info for you in previous post
 
just have post and contact someone there and see how it goes.
 
  The DC Vault code checks for the same team Name, not members.
this would require using same name like "folding@EVGA" for all projects...  I think 
 
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 20:14:38 (permalink)
Well I created a personal log in... And 4x's the amount of categories showed up... Most are dead and have very few posts this year.
 
I will make a thread and ask for forgiveness... I will link it shortly...
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 20:23:15 (permalink)
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linuxrouter

Here is a listing of the projects falling under DC@EVGA currently:

http://allprojectstats.com/showteam.php?projekt=0&id=1363845

Do we know the owner?

Is this better or similar to the vault?

 
They were setup by a member here named InfiniteKills. I'm not too familiar with the vault but nearest I can tell a team added via the vault would be accessible by all the BOINC projects. Maybe setting up a new boinc-wide team either by the vault or through the boinc site would be simplest.
post edited by linuxrouter - 2011/11/20 09:42:04
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 20:40:10 (permalink)
the thing is that if you use the "folding@evga" name -  (because we really can't change that one)
both the FAH and Crunching will be one team name with combined teams stats at DC-Vault
 
but that is your choice... Im not a member yet- eventually I will
 
you could also set up a different single EVGA name for all crunching projects, but then could be in direct competition with your teammates "folding@evga"  if they choose to add that to DC-vault too...
 
like I said it doesn't have to be changed overnight - the points you generated so far will be peanuts to what's generated later
 
once we have things figured out we can proceed...
take your time get it right
 
DC-vault with a combined crunching/ folding@home team?
that would probably devastate/obliterate the competition
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 21:05:28 (permalink)
But if they all can have different names in there own right, and one log it collecting all of that data... Could that be the banner we use?
 
And Folding@home name would not work for most of the other DC projects. It could cause a lot of confusion...
 
One other thought... Assuming either way with the names... Exactly how would all the project scores add up to one set of uber points? This is still not setting into my mind... Is this tracked?
 
And is points the reason for doing it or Work Units?
 
We need a lot more input on this for sure, and a lot of questions answered before we cause any issues...
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 21:31:47 (permalink)
Across multiple projects and a unified team under that sense, it has to be about points.  The science still gets done either way, but where the points go is my issue.  I'm doing all my projects either way, but I'd prefer that it is all for one team....



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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 21:36:19 (permalink)
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Across multiple projects and a unified team under that sense, it has to be about points.  The science still gets done either way, but where the points go is my issue.  I'm doing all my projects either way, but I'd prefer that it is all for one team....

Does the DC@EVGA one cover all of your needs?
 
Regardless of what banner we fly... I am staying in F@H for my GPU's and WCG for my CPU's. So it will not have an impact on me if we run F@H/WCG/DC @EVGA... I really like the idea for those looking at the points as a driver, to have one place to see those results.
 
There is just something about WCG that is attractive to me. Maybe it is because it is so easy to use, the sexy sigs, the cool badges... Easy to maneuver through and all the control I have...
 
And the appeal to have so many other projects available for the team... Well it just feels right... Like the worn in pair of jeans we all love...
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 21:44:34 (permalink)
I was looking at hardocp and they have 10 projects setup each with a separate team of the same name. We could do something similar by determining which projects are of most interest to the users and pre-setup a team of the same name under those projects. The stats sites like allprojectstats will combine the points together for all projects that fall under the same team name.
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 21:45:31 (permalink)
There has been so much change so fast I'm going to stick with FAH and WCG
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 21:54:30 (permalink)
I will currently also fold under EVGA and WCG under the current name till we have decided on either a new name for the WCG or stay with the one we have ... if we do delve into other areas i may or may not join those as well and would depend on when/if i can set up other igs
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Re:Other than WCG.... 2011/11/19 22:10:25 (permalink)
update:
DC-vault has a program that goes out and collects those points from stats coming from those projects

 
check this page at DC-VAult (seems all we do is put what team names in for each project)
so we can have different team names for each project ...
folding@evga, WCG@evga and DC@evga, etc
 
but I would prefer 1 name for all crunching projects if we can - or as few as possible
 
http://www.dc-vault.com/hurdle.php?do=update
  

  
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