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2015/09/03 17:03:48 (permalink)
Just built the following machine (see below)   and feeling heartsick.  It doesn't play 4K or  any better than my Dell Inspiron 570 with upgraded Phenom II 945 CPU and GTX 750 Ti with 8GB of RAM.  Hesitates and jerks along.  Windows performance monitor shows it only using 3GB of RAM and 14% of the CPU.  I know other people are playing/editing 4K with this same setup.  Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
 
Well, EVGA removed the link to my build.  Thanks a lot.   
If they removed the modified version above then here are the basics.
i7-4790K
Asus Z97-A MOBO
EVGA GTX 960
16GB RAM
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 17:58:58 (permalink)
    You're trying to run 2160 with a 960?
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 18:22:16 (permalink)
    Yep.  Posted my proposed build in at least 4 hardware forums and all the comments were that it should be okay.  Now that I'm posting that the video is choppy, everybody is all "OMG!  Why did you buy such an underpowered GPU?"
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 18:26:30 (permalink)
    Yeah, a 960 really isn't capable at 4k.  You MIGHT be able to run 1440 with it on low settings, if you don't mind low frame rates.  1080 is about the best you can expect from a 960.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 18:49:10 (permalink)
    A 960 can NOT run 4k. I got a 960 from an rma and tried to run it on my 4k monitor that is usually powered by 3 Titan x. It absolutely can not do 4k. Those other hardware sites were wrong. If you want to run 4k get a 980 or better.

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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 18:51:57 (permalink)
    EVAG also advertises the 960 as 4K capable so I'm a pretty unhappy camper right now.  Just got a post from someone in the forum of the 4K camera I'm using with the same setup as mine and they say 4K runs just fine for them.  Really at a loss here.
     
    Just this second got a post from EVGA support (Question was, did I underbuy?) suggesting it's a driver issue.  I guess they're expecting it to work.
    post edited by tpallred - 2015/09/03 18:54:07
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 18:57:06 (permalink)
    You will be able to run 4k on the desktop just fine. Gaming is another story.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 19:00:07 (permalink)
    It is physically capable of running 4k.have fun running 4k smoothly.

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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 19:02:51 (permalink)
    A 960 should be able to run a monitor with 4K resolution and play 4K videos.  But like Sajin said, playing games in 4K is a different story.
     
    Are you just trying to play/edit 4K videos?  Or are you also trying to play games in 4K?


     
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 19:17:58 (permalink)
    No games.  Just viewing/editing 4K video.  I'm about to wipe the drivers and reinstall...
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 19:32:35 (permalink)
    I would think 16 gigs of ram would be the bare minimum to edit 4k video...
    As far as the graphics card goes, this is quoted from a faq for a Hero4 about 4k but I would assume it would still apply...

    Minimum System Requirements for 4K Editing and Playback


    Question
    What are the requirements to be able to playback and edit a 4k video on my computer?
    Where does it apply?
    • HERO4
    Answer
    Here are the minimum system requirements for PC and Mac for 4K edit/playback based on processor and graphics chip manufacturer's websites. 
    Integrated Graphics solutions that support 4K external displays (8GB RAM recommended with integrated graphics solutions):
    4th generation Intel® Core™ processor family (Intel Haswell based CPUs) - (Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 5200 / Intel® Iris™ Graphics 5100, Intel® HD Graphics 5000 / 4600 / 4400 / 4200) AMD A10-7800 APU Discrete Graphics cards that support 4K external displays:
    Nvidia GeForce GeForce® GTX™ 970GeForce® GTX™ 980GeForce® GTX™ TITAN ZGeForce® GTX™ TITAN BlackGeForce® GTX™ TITAN GeForce® GTX™ 780 & 780 TiGeForce® GTX™ 770GeForce® GTX™ 760 & 760 TiGeForce® GTX™ 750 & 750 TiGeForce® GTX™ 690, 680, 670, 660, 660 Ti, 650, 650 Ti BOOST, 650 TiAMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series or better
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 20:02:29 (permalink)
    Same problem after reinstalling the drivers.  Called EVGA support and they said use VLC instead of QuickTime.  Problem solved.  My heart is beating again.  
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 20:26:22 (permalink)
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    I would think 16 gigs of ram would be the bare minimum to edit 4k video...
    As far as the graphics card goes, this is quoted from a faq for a Hero4 about 4k but I would assume it would still apply...

    Minimum System Requirements for 4K Editing and Playback

     
    Question
    What are the requirements to be able to playback and edit a 4k video on my computer?
    Where does it apply?
    • HERO4
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    Here are the minimum system requirements for PC and Mac for 4K edit/playback based on processor and graphics chip manufacturer's websites. Integrated Graphics solutions that support 4K external displays (8GB RAM recommended with integrated graphics solutions):4th generation Intel® Core™ processor family (Intel Haswell based CPUs) - (Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 5200 / Intel® Iris™ Graphics 5100, Intel® HD Graphics 5000 / 4600 / 4400 / 4200) AMD A10-7800 APU Discrete Graphics cards that support 4K external displays:Nvidia GeForce GeForce® GTX™ 970GeForce® GTX™ 980GeForce® GTX™ TITAN ZGeForce® GTX™ TITAN BlackGeForce® GTX™ TITAN GeForce® GTX™ 780 & 780 TiGeForce® GTX™ 770GeForce® GTX™ 760 & 760 TiGeForce® GTX™ 750 & 750 TiGeForce® GTX™ 690, 680, 670, 660, 660 Ti, 650, 650 Ti BOOST, 650 TiAMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series or better



    Good call.  You know, I looked at their list months ago but I guess I forgot about it by the time I started specing the system.  I would have definitely gotten the 970 instead.  Good thing the 960 seems to be working okay.  If I have any problems I'll just sell the 960 on ebay and move up.  BTW, the video editor I use doesn't use much RAM.  I was advised on that forum multiple times to not waste the money on the 32GB I had originally proposed.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 20:40:47 (permalink)
    Sell? NO! Use the step up feature.. You only pay the exact difference from what you paid to get the 960 (minus shipping) and the 970's cost (and then add shipping, I think).. It's a legit deal. Don't lose money on eBay to move to the 970.

    Www.evga.com/stepup
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 20:46:02 (permalink)
    Quicktime? That's a blast from the past (10 years ago for me). You will be very happy with VLC.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 20:53:03 (permalink)
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    Sell? NO! Use the step up feature.. You only pay the exact difference from what you paid to get the 960 (minus shipping) and the 970's cost (and then add shipping, I think).. It's a legit deal. Don't lose money on eBay to move to the 970.

    Www.evga.com/stepup



    Not eligible.  Might be if I buy the extended warranty.  Then again, I got it for $180.  By the time I paid for the warranty and shipping both ways I might come out the same as ebay.  I'll have to check into it, thanks.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 21:00:49 (permalink)
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    Quicktime? That's a blast from the past (10 years ago for me). You will be very happy with VLC.




    I actually already had VLC but QuickTime had played all my 1080 videos fine so it was what I tried for the 4K.  Didn't know it was lacking.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/03 21:15:11 (permalink)
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    Found it.  I didn't say so earlier because I couldn't find the email and didn't want to say for sure.  I contacted GoPro months ago about the 960 and they said it would work.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/04 05:23:37 (permalink)
    Glad this problem got sorted out. I came into the thread expecting OP was trying to game at 4k like most others. 
     
    I am actually surprised to hear you aren't eligible for step up. What stopped your eligibility? 
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/04 06:49:05 (permalink)
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    Glad this problem got sorted out. I came into the thread expecting OP was trying to game at 4k like most others. 
     
    I am actually surprised to hear you aren't eligible for step up. What stopped your eligibility? 


    I'm assuming it's because I didn't register the product until after the 14 day limit, which I didn't know about.  If that's the issue then I still have 47 days to get an extended warranty and do the program.  Although the other two hard dates on the page almost make it sound like that deal is over.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/04 06:54:04 (permalink)
    Should always register your electronics when you get them.

    But maybe calm evga they might can work something out
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/04 08:09:06 (permalink)
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    I would think 16 gigs of ram would be the bare minimum to edit 4k video...
    As far as the graphics card goes, this is quoted from a faq for a Hero4 about 4k but I would assume it would still apply...

    Minimum System Requirements for 4K Editing and Playback

     
    Question
    What are the requirements to be able to playback and edit a 4k video on my computer?
    Where does it apply?
    • HERO4
    Answer
    Here are the minimum system requirements for PC and Mac for 4K edit/playback based on processor and graphics chip manufacturer's websites. Integrated Graphics solutions that support 4K external displays (8GB RAM recommended with integrated graphics solutions):4th generation Intel® Core™ processor family (Intel Haswell based CPUs) - (Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 5200 / Intel® Iris™ Graphics 5100, Intel® HD Graphics 5000 / 4600 / 4400 / 4200) AMD A10-7800 APU Discrete Graphics cards that support 4K external displays:Nvidia GeForce GeForce® GTX™ 970GeForce® GTX™ 980GeForce® GTX™ TITAN ZGeForce® GTX™ TITAN BlackGeForce® GTX™ TITAN GeForce® GTX™ 780 & 780 TiGeForce® GTX™ 770GeForce® GTX™ 760 & 760 TiGeForce® GTX™ 750 & 750 TiGeForce® GTX™ 690, 680, 670, 660, 660 Ti, 650, 650 Ti BOOST, 650 TiAMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series or better



    Good call.  You know, I looked at their list months ago but I guess I forgot about it by the time I started specing the system.  I would have definitely gotten the 970 instead.  Good thing the 960 seems to be working okay.  If I have any problems I'll just sell the 960 on ebay and move up.  BTW, the video editor I use doesn't use much RAM.  I was advised on that forum multiple times to not waste the money on the 32GB I had originally proposed.




    The only reason the 960 isn't on that list is because it didn't exist at the time that the list was compiled (The first 3 900 series cards were the 970, 980, and the new Titan, there was no 960, 950, or 980ti, which are all excluded from that list).
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/04 23:27:34 (permalink)
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    Should always register your electronics when you get them.

    But maybe calm evga they might can work something out



    Nope, no slack.  But if the 960 continues to perform then I'm happy.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/05 13:23:42 (permalink)
    4k with a GTX 960?! LMFAO!!!!!! Oh that's a good one!
    I would love to know what's going on in your head to think you would get smooth gameplay at 4K with a 960
     
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/05 14:26:30 (permalink)
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    4k with a GTX 960?! LMFAO!!!!!! Oh that's a good one!
    I would love to know what's going on in your head to think you would get smooth gameplay at 4K with a 960
     

    Read the thread before you post. He didn't buy it for games.

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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/05 17:46:31 (permalink)
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    4k with a GTX 960?! LMFAO!!!!!! Oh that's a good one!
    I would love to know what's going on in your head to think you would get smooth gameplay at 4K with a 960
     




    It's good that you're so easily amused.  I'll bet you crack yourself up all the time.  Are you a politician?  I only ask because you don't seem concerned with facts.
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    Re: Oh no! Not getting smooth 4K or 1080@120fps playback with GTX 960 2015/09/05 22:00:14 (permalink)
    If your unhappy with the performance do a step up to a faster card within 90 days of the purchase date. There is software out there u can run at 4k with that card. Everything is program/game dependent relative to performance achieved.
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