update in post #2 with the (not yet official) rules and some other info.
@ drougnor:HWC is mostly on its own, with only a few people coming over. Also it was assumed, that each team Is gonna have their share of "guest folders" (I know we had the one or the other last year) to even out things again.

Coresair
Meh, not too thrilled about the lack of compromise... 

Oh well, Ill still ramp up for our team... (hard, coming from the mini-break I am taking)

Also, for those of you not wanting to help our team, I am ashamed....Our team did not become #1 without adversity and hardship...if everyone gave up we would not be #1. I say lets bring all we got, and show them we can win handicapped or not!

+1
 
Bring It!
 
Put everything you have into it and have no mercy!

Man, nothing can ever be just simple . . . But I wouldn't be happy with this process if it WERE all that simple.
 
Stanford is changing how they release the stats.  I haven't seen a change yet, but it's coming.
 
http://folding.typepad.co...-the-stats-system.html
 
This means I'm going to be working my stats system likely RIGHT UP to the very end to make sure I account for EVERY permutation of the CC teams and their respective passkeys. 
 
Am I sick for looking forward to the last minute rush?

Just makes me have to total the values before exporting them, but it's just deciding which technique fits the situation and then finding the 13 BETTER techniques by accident.  It's been a learning process, and one that I love.  

I would but i'm horrible at organizing anything tbh...

Thanks troy! Not sure if zerran can do it.
Not only does he have that new job, but he´s been promoted already and now has to work even more.
Name, estimated ppd and if people need a passkey should be enough.
You can find the rules in post #2 (along with some other info). Nothing has changed since I put them up almost a week ago

They see us folding these proteins
They are just thinking are crazy so crazy
I just want to find the cure
They are just thinking we are so crazy

I'm still newish around here, but I'd be willing to help anyway I can. This will be my first CC and I am very much looking forward to it.
 
So please, let me know what needs doing so I can get crackin to help the team. 

I'll try for it.  Let's face it, I love a challenge.

Barbarossa
The rules are considered official now. Still discussing what is considered "foul play" as in rule number 6
So here they are:
1. Each team will fold for the duration of the contest.
A "Chimp Points" system will be used to determine the placings.
The total points of each parent team is taken from the months of October 2010 to February 2011.
One-tenth of a percent (0.1%) of the respective team's 5-month total will be the points required to earn one (1) Chimp Point.

This sucks.  How am I supposed to come close to matching my output from 4 of the coolest months of the year in May which tends to be more like summer than not.
 
My Output Oct-Feb: 5,481,252
Feb - 1,383,630
Jan - 1,145,334
Dec - 1,202,872
Nov - 1,053,729
Oct - 695,687
 
My output May-Sep: 2,455,399
Sep - 451,137
Aug - 359,853
Jul - 317,992
Jun - 746,378
May - 580,039

 

KMoore4318

Several people have mentioned how nice it would be for not folding under a chimp challenge name and just using team results. I would like to echo those sentiments. As this would

• Simplify sign up
• allow us and others to fold, as the handy-cap was designed and not at the disadvantage of organization or particaption.
• Simpifly/ eliminate the need for EVGA and Shanes to assign or allow EVGA bucks to those that miss the mark for CC
• avoid the loss of points during change over and change back.
• Make it a true team effort, and not just a select percentage that particapated.
• Allow folders to track their individual input,and make sure their points are being counted, as apposed to seeing just a big 0 under their name, and massive points under EVGA, and just hoping all theirs are being counted.
• Insure ( if we win ) that the prize logo is not just available to all team folders, but earned by the team.
• and finely not make people decide wither to Fold for the team, at the disparity of their own team standing, while they are passed by folders that either didn't know or didn't care about CC or team spirit.

 

Although any folder would possibly not keep the folding points under their regular folding name, they could keep it under their Passkey without much trouble. I've done this for many teams/contests/etc. Simply change the Name to EVGA Apes and you are off. When one goes to FAH stats page and enters the passkey.... Blammo, there's you with another folding name (EVGA Apes) and all your points.
 
More than that tho is it's all for science and a great way to let the world know (especially folding forums) that it's not about who gets the PPD
Sean
The rest could be complicated. But folding is a 'labour of love', and as such can come with some sacrifice. If one is more worried about 'status' of folding, they simply have not been folding long enough to realize the true meaning of giving to Science. It will grow on all as they continue and realize that personal stuff is not so important as what we all do for the science collectively. JIMO, YMMV.
 

JD22964

A question about the wording here...

Barbarossa
6. Only team captains are allowed to make changes to rules and will be looking out for any "foul play".
Starting wus before the start of the CC is fine, but stopping clients just so that a wu drops after the start is considered bad folding conduct.
Also having a machine idle after the change of names for longer than necessary just so that the next wu drops within the first few hours is not discouraged.
If a team is found out doing this they may be disqulified from this years and next years Chimp Challenge. So try to keep your clients as close to their "natural flow" as possible. I´ll change over my smp/bigadv clients already a couple of days early.

Is this a typo?  Should this really read is discouraged?

The words idle for longer than necessary already have a negative connotation, but to then reverse it by saying it is not discouraged just sounds wrong.

Am I reading to much into this?  Is it okay or not okay to let your machines idle before the start of the CC?

JD

I was wondering the same, but having never been in it I figured it was normal. Bigger part of the CC problem for me is those rules really didn't enlighten me on how/who/when do we sign up?
 
Is this like the only contest I've been in here (caught 2nd place but am wondering ) ?  Is there a "Sign-up"? Is it based on # of contestants for a Team? Please let me know as I have a thread in General Discussions with a following of "like" 3 .
 
 

JD22964
 We've got to start talking about the 2011CC on the main folding board.  Being stuck here on the contest board is not going to be good for getting everyone to be aware of the CC.  We've got a lot of new folders who can really put up numbers, but we've got to make sure they know what's up.  I guess it's time to try to add the CC badge to my already too big sig.

 
I made a post in the main forum with a link back here in case anyone missed it. I also added the link to my sig to try and help raise awareness. Every little bit helps I think. 

shdbcamping 

....folding is a 'labor of love', and as such can come with some sacrifice. If one is more worried about 'status' of folding, they simply have not been folding long enough to realize the true meaning of giving to Science. It will grow on all as they continue and realize that personal stuff is not so important as what we all do for the science collectively. JIMO, YMMV.

Although I do agree with this sentiment, the point I was trying to make, is the handicap, although called a way to make things fair and balanced, is actually  more of an attempt to put the large teams at a disadvantage, and tilt an advantage to the smaller teams. The fact that the points are determined by total team output, but only earned by signed up participants, means that the smaller the team is, the greater percentage, each signed up member will be. If we are going to be handicapped as a team, to be fair we should fold the same way. I will be folding all out through the chimp challenge as a labor of love, and to fold for the team, even though there is no way we can win with these rules. Why because I fold for the cause, not for the points, But that does not change the fact, that calling this fair, is like saying a tax code that 90% of the population pays nothing is fair. But I guess it's OK to call it fair, as long as your part of the 90% that don't have to pay. You do realize that if we have a 33% participant rate, it will take 3 times as long to earn the points at the handycap rate. I hope I am wrong, but I suspect it will be difacult to get 1/3 of out team to signg up and change names.   

KMoore4318

shdbcamping 

....folding is a 'labor of love', and as such can come with some sacrifice. If one is more worried about 'status' of folding, they simply have not been folding long enough to realize the true meaning of giving to Science. It will grow on all as they continue and realize that personal stuff is not so important as what we all do for the science collectively. JIMO, YMMV.

Although I do agree with this sentiment, the point I was trying to make, is the handicap, although called a way to make things fair and balanced, is actually  more of an attempt to put the large teams at a disadvantage, and tilt an advantage to the smaller teams. The fact that the points are determined by total team output, but only earned by signed up participants, means that the smaller the team is, the greater percentage, each signed up member will be. If we are going to be handicapped as a team, to be fair we should fold the same way. I will be folding all out through the chimp challenge as a labor of love, and to fold for the team, even though there is no way we can win with these rules. Why because I fold for the cause, not for the points, But that does not change the fact, that calling this fair, is like saying a tax code that 90% of the population pays nothing is fair. But I guess it's OK to call it fair, as long as your part of the 90% that don't have to pay. You do realize that if we have a 33% participant rate, it will take 3 times as long to earn the points at the handycap rate. I hope I am wrong, but I suspect it will be difacult to get 1/3 of out team to signg up and change names.   

 
I certainly agree that its not hard to see the other teams have stacked the odds heavily against us...the question is are we going to mobilize and fight even harder or are we going to lay it down?  It is clear that if we are going to stand any chance, our efforts cannot be organized by a single person.  We all can contribute and mobilize the masses...if you want to pitch in, just ask how you can help!