zerran2001

Hey guys,
First thing i want to add to this is, Barbarossa is doing a great job he is bringing the teams concerns to the captains forums, and as he has said Since he got in late the other captains had pretty much already set the rules. He is putting a lot of effort into this.

With that being said, we are team EVGA the #1 folding team in the world we are always gonna have a million people watching every move we make. Lets conduct our selves accordingly, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone just a friendly reminder. 

Whatever the scoring turns out to be in the end, we just need to prepare and come together as a team 100%.  We can overcome any obstacle, I'm not saying don't voice your concern. Because we want this to be a fair fight all around.  If the points are closer it will force EVERY team to get more hardware or recruit even more and will only benefit science in the end.

From my experience with the contests, their will always be someone out to cheat just to win.  So hopefully the captains can come together on something fair. Its not gonna be 100% perfect the first time out, it will take practice on getting in right. But in the end i think it will make everyone push harder.


I back Barbarossa 100% on everything he is doing, remember this is a huge team and hes gonna need help through the process.


With all that being said ,(sorry for the wall of text, but i can't get on here much during the week) We will come to the show ready to fold either way. Preparing is the hardest part of the battle.

Fold On Brothers!

Well said Zerran.  I was not folding last year during CC but I was watching.  I plan on competing this year, no mater how great the challenge might be.
Fold on!

I have two things to bring up on this and I'm back to focusing on tidying up my stats collection program and reading up on proper mysql management -
 
1 - Barbarossa, you're doing a great job in getting our concerns aired to the other captains and handling yourself fantastically, considering that we're the 'target' team. 
 
Obviously, the other captains are concerned about ensuring that we won't just walk away with the prize, and we're concerned that we're not beaten over the head and left for dead in that same exchange. 
 
I don't envy you that position, and am happy with the job you have been doing thus far.  Congrats and please keep up the good work.
 
On that same point, folks, please understand that we're obviously NOT going to be happy with how much we're being targeted here, but in the end, for the end result to be TRULY a compromise, NONE of the teams will be REALLY happy. We're just a bigger target than the others.
 
And point number 2 - We will do what we do best - Fold the CRAP out of some Work Units!  Win or lose, this year, as has been pointed out, will be a test year for a new system.  If we manage to pull together and work hard on a good strategy that focuses on our strengths as a team, we'll take the prize again.
 
If not, we figure out what went wrong - If it was the a fault with the scoring system, we work to get the formula balanced.  If it was a fault with the team in some manner, we work better to get that issue dealt with and come back to reclaim the prize.
 
Ultimately, I see this as a way to kick up the points and our overall production, program wide, and NOT simply as a reason to 'win' or 'complain about losing'.  Winning a prize is a perk, but the TRUE win is to help the Pande Group solve the greater mysteries that they are attempting to solve.
 
SO, in closing, let's thank Barbarossa for his hard work and keep folding our little cabooses off!!

I doubt any team would abide by the "Fold for yourself" rules....just saying.

Coresair
I doubt any team would abide by the "Fold for yourself" rules....just saying.

 
My theory is that for a set of rule changes to be fair, every team should be equally unhappy.  Everyone should have to agree to something they may not like.  If we agree to the whole "percentage increase" thing, then they should be willing to agree to the use of full team production.
 

If it is to be a % increase then it should be a % increase over the previous CC results based on a specific timeframe (Ie. 1,000,000 over 2 weeks add a % to the 1,000,000 for the same timeframe making the % increase equal for every team). That seems the only fair way to resolve this.

I agree with you pgmoney.  First off, hats off to Barbarossa.  It was not my intention to make his job any harder - simply provide an opinion that he can choose to do with as he pleases.
 
I would not discourage people from expressing their opinions, just be aware that just because you say something does not mean it will occur.  Keep in mind Barbarossa is only one person and is making the best of a tough situation he has been thrown into.
 
Keep up the good work!
 

Punchy 

My theory is that for a set of rule changes to be fair, every team should be equally unhappy.  Everyone should have to agree to something they may not like.  If we agree to the whole "percentage increase" thing, then they should be willing to agree to the use of full team production.

 
I agree with you, don't get me wrong. I was just pointing out that one of the major flaws in the system still exists...

I just recently came back and missed the start of our contest going on here. From what I can see the contests seem to be going well. No matter how the rules are changed it is obvious this is just going to cause issues with members on different teams and between different teams. Why dont we just keep doing some of our own contests on the team? It will still be for the same cause of increasing participation and getting more people involved. I have taken part in previous CC and thought it was great, but this just looks like its getting to complicated and covoluted to really determine a true champion and keep the original cause of the CC to increase overall folding.

Set a period of time to fold for and whoever has the most at the end is the winner. Do not set a cap on points just keep folding until the set amount of time is reached.

Thankyou Barbarossa for being our team captain!!
 
What about giving the small teams that took around a month last year a head start? Say 2 weeks, and after that period the other 2 big teams join in for a race to a set point value?

For your hourly dose of contest updates you have to wait until cinco de mayo 12 pm PDT.
We´re currently holding a vote on the final rules.
Not much has changed since then, only the stats for sept and oct have been included as well.

Any idea when the final rules will be set?  Then we can begin planning and preparing...

info for the point spread is up at TPU 

After reading some of what's going on I just get blah blah blah blah........I am personally not going to participate in this contest and I am sure I am not alone. I will continue to produce what I can for our team and not worry about being handicapped in a superficial contest.
 
I like our contests between each other and thats who we should always focus on, our team. Forget the haters, heck let them have their little contest to see who is the best at the bottom of the barrel while we are in our cruise ship sippin drinks watching the rat race.
 
I know some like a contest and this is a good way to boost production for a team, but we seem to be able to do that with our Intrateam contests anyway.
 
 

Meh, not too thrilled about the lack of compromise... 
 
Oh well, Ill still ramp up for our team... (hard, coming from the mini-break I am taking)
 
Also, for those of you not wanting to help our team, I am ashamed....Our team did not become #1 without adversity and hardship...if everyone gave up we would not be #1. I say lets bring all we got, and show them we can win handicapped or not!