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2014/10/30 08:32:10 (permalink)
Hey all,
 
Got my first EVGA product ever a little while ago, a GTX980 SuperClocked with the reference leafblower.
 
Right now I'm trying to OC it, using Precision X. 1524MHz (+160MHz set) without touching the voltage is stable in Unigine Heaven and most games but not quite stable in 3DMark.
From what I can gather from other people and my own observations upping the voltage happens in steps with this GPU. +25mV does nothing (still 1.225V) while +43mV ups the voltage to 1.243V. Anything higher or lower doesn't seem to do anything, or it destabilizes. Power target is set to 125% and I've left the temperature target at 80 degrees Celsius. Priority is given to the power target.
 
So I set the voltage to +43mV. For some reason the frequency jumps to 1555MHz at this point. Max temp reached is 70 degrees Celsius. I have not touched the memory yet.
 
The thing is that the OV Max Limit trips and outputs 1 at this voltage. Sometimes it disappears after a while: the card lowers the frequency by 14MHz and voltage jumps to 1.200V. It still seems stable at that point (but not if I actually dial in those settings). Voltage limit also trips pretty much all the time under load, even at stock.
From what I can gather some people say that tripping OV Max Limit means I'm frying the card, others say that I've simply reached the max voltage set by the BIOS and it's nothing to worry about as long as the card is stable and temps are okay.
 
So my questions are: should I be worried by the OV Max Limit tripping? Should I dial back the voltage and core OC because of it? Is it damaging my card?
 
Thanks!
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    Re: OV Max Limit on GTX 980 2014/10/30 08:37:17 (permalink)
    I would put the voltage to max OV if you are trying to get above 1500mhz core.  1.200vcore does ok for 1490mhz and below. Also 3dmark draws the most power from the cards so that is why it is more likely to find a weakness that you may never see running heaven benchmark or playing a game.

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    Re: OV Max Limit on GTX 980 2014/10/30 08:45:48 (permalink)
    Thanks for the quick reply!
     
    I should mention that I can't actually get the voltage to 1.200V manually, because the card runs at 1.225V at stock and I can't undervolt with Precision X.
    I'm just seeing how far I can take the card.
     
    Why should I put the voltage to max if there's no change whatsoever compared to +43mV?
     
    And it doesn't really answer my main question, should I be worried about OV Max Limit tripping?
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    Re: OV Max Limit on GTX 980 2014/10/30 09:51:47 (permalink)
    Nope, Nope & Nope. 
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    Re: OV Max Limit on GTX 980 2014/10/30 10:07:54 (permalink)
    Thank you, that's the answer I was hoping for!
     
    Clear and concise
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    Re: OV Max Limit on GTX 980 2014/10/31 07:32:06 (permalink)
    I have the same problem you have and going with higher voltage doesn't resolve the crash in 3dmark (11). Driver crash occur pretty quickly and even more when its in the loading screen. In 3dmark we hit the power limit pretty fast and the max clock never get really high anyway. Here what I found so far and why we should stop looking at the MAX boost clock anyway.
     
    For 3dmark the secret seems to be KBOOST. Disabling nvidia gpu boost and keeping the clock speed and voltage at maximum speed increase stability. You will still reach pwr limit when benchmarking so consider that higher clock may not give better result. When you hit the power limit your GPU will throttle and it will give you lower GPU clock then what you see advertised but Precision at idle.
     
    Example,
     
    3dmark 11
    GPU: 1356mhz (OC offset +115mhz)
    Memory: 2053mhz
    Scrore: X7107

     
    3dmark 11
    GPU: 1376mhz (OC offset +135mhz)
    Memory: 2003mhz
    Scrore: X6977

     
    3dmark 11
    GPU: 1403mhz (OC offset +162mhz)
    Memory: 2103mhz
    Scrore: X7166

     
    Keeping the memory clock will also help save power for the GPU and give you higher maximum clock speed when running 3dmark. Now if you keep boost enabled, the card get very unstable when switching clock speed. I'm not sure yet but it seems to be providing too little voltage on some clock speed when ramping up. My max stable GPU/Memory offset for my card was +80mhz/+400mhz with voltage at +87 and power target 125%. That set my GPU at 1321mhz and the typical clock when running game is 1476mhz. Its also stable 24/7. This is pretty much the sweet spot. Going to +90mhz make the card unstable when looping 3dmark for a while. Again the crashes occurs the most when switching clock speed when going from a demo to the other. The reason I up the the voltage to +87 is only to get higher clock speed under load. In my case it give around 30mhz extra.
     
    My last test was with a custom bios to increase power limit,
    3dmark 11
    GPU: 1366mhz (OC offset +125mhz)
    Memory: 2003mhz
    Scrore: X7176

     
    In this case it did help with BOOST disabled BUT it would still crash with KBOOST off for the same reasons I had with the normal bios. For day to day gaming and normal use I need the power saving so my maximum clock speed really is 1321mhz.
     
    If someone at EVGA read this, please fix this boost crash problem. its really limiting our cards with boost enabled!
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