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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:27 AM
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This is nothing special. It's been talked repeatedly, and everybody knew it. It sounds like they had "no choice" but to man up and make the statement. Now, what are they going to do about it? And all of a sudden they coincidentally are going to have Samsung making their GPUs on their 14nm? Come on... I'm not saying anything negative to the regards of them switching to Samsung. I'm just implying that they switched to Samsung because they feel that Samsung will be able to pump out the chips faster and quicker than TSMC was able to, thinking they could have saved some money on the production line with TSMC. That's what I think at least. Looks like it didn't work out with TSMC.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 2:46 PM
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And they plan to use this as an excuse to raise the prices by how much more?
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:55 PM
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Even now price is insane, I refuse to pay 10% improvements after 2 year before AMD launch their product. This news is only to force people to pay cards before AMD launch their premium model and NVIDIA present new Pascal revision. Imagine if AMD launch 80% improvements compare to Fury X as high end single graphic card. How much was improvement HD7970 to R9-290X, I can't remember at them moment in percent but something huge... I learned lesson with GTX780 and GTX780Ti.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:02 PM
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Time to sit down and take a break and ponder a little longer on what it is you really need, not want. Reduce the Demand until the marked it overstocked with cards.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:39 PM
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stalinx20 This is nothing special. It's been talked repeatedly, and everybody knew it. It sounds like they had "no choice" but to man up and make the statement. Now, what are they going to do about it? And all of a sudden they coincidentally are going to have Samsung making their GPUs on their 14nm? Come on... I'm not saying anything negative to the regards of them switching to Samsung. I'm just implying that they switched to Samsung because they feel that Samsung will be able to pump out the chips faster and quicker than TSMC was able to, thinking they could have saved some money on the production line with TSMC. That's what I think at least. Looks like it didn't work out with TSMC.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:42 PM
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Nvidia should go into politics with that kind of marketing spin. I'm sitting at almost 5 months now in the step up program. Further, I sent in a customer service inquiry a week ago and it fell into a black hole at EVGA.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:50 PM
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Brad_Hawthorne Nvidia should go into politics with that kind of marketing spin. I'm sitting at almost 5 months now in the step up program. Further, I sent in a customer service inquiry a week ago and it fell into a black hole at EVGA.
Time to make a call ?
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:13 PM
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Brad_Hawthorne Nvidia should go into politics with that kind of marketing spin. I'm sitting at almost 5 months now in the step up program. Further, I sent in a customer service inquiry a week ago and it fell into a black hole at EVGA.
Time to make a call ?
Level 1 customer service wouldn't be able to answer my question.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:44 PM
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stalinx20 I'm not saying anything negative to the regards of them switching to Samsung. I'm just implying that they switched to Samsung because they feel that Samsung will be able to pump out the chips faster and quicker than TSMC was able to, thinking they could have saved some money on the production line with TSMC. That's what I think at least. Looks like it didn't work out with TSMC.
who said they are switching? they could use both for pascal to bring supply up however i thinking samsung is doing volta they are skipping 10nm - and 7nm will be reseved for what comes after volta...so volta is 14nm or 16nm finfet by using Samsung they force tsmc to give them a better wafer deal and lower prices - good competition in the silicon market is a good thing It's not like Nvidia is locked to TSMC like AMD is to GF... you know they could always ask Intel to do some wafers - if they could trust them...lol
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:48 PM
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Vlada011 Even now price is insane, I refuse to pay 10% improvements after 2 year before AMD launch their product. This news is only to force people to pay cards before AMD launch their premium model and NVIDIA present new Pascal revision. Imagine if AMD launch 80% improvements compare to Fury X as high end single graphic card. How much was improvement HD7970 to R9-290X, I can't remember at them moment in percent but something huge... I learned lesson with GTX780 and GTX780Ti.
what pascal revision - the rumor is volta next year ...so no refresh 7nm finfet will be 2018 10nm finfet is 2017 and nvidia is skipping that and using 14nm or 16nm - for volta TSMC Launching 10nm FinFET Process In 2016, 7nm In 2017http://wccftech.com/tsmc-promises-10nm-production-2016-7nm-2017/ volume production is 1 year after intial start of fab line
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:45 PM
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Brad_Hawthorne I'm sitting at almost 5 months now in the step up program.
How? The 1080 has only been out about 3.5 (heheh) months.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Sunday, September 11, 2016 0:42 PM
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Brad_Hawthorne I'm sitting at almost 5 months now in the step up program.
How? The 1080 has only been out about 3.5 (heheh) months.
Purchased in April, I processed step up in May and it's already 1/3rd of the way through September.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:11 AM
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bcavnaugh Time to sit down and take a break and ponder a little longer on what it is you really need, not want. Reduce the Demand until the marked it overstocked with cards.
I couldn't have said it better. I think people should do exactly that, and think what kind of FPS they're getting with the cards they have now. Want and need are definitely 2 different things.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:19 AM
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stalinx20 I'm not saying anything negative to the regards of them switching to Samsung. I'm just implying that they switched to Samsung because they feel that Samsung will be able to pump out the chips faster and quicker than TSMC was able to, thinking they could have saved some money on the production line with TSMC. That's what I think at least. Looks like it didn't work out with TSMC.
who said they are switching? they could use both for pascal to bring supply up however i thinking samsung is doing volta they are skipping 10nm - and 7nm will be reseved for what comes after volta...so volta is 14nm or 16nm finfet by using Samsung they force tsmc to give them a better wafer deal and lower prices - good competition in the silicon market is a good thing It's not like Nvidia is locked to TSMC like AMD is to GF... you know they could always ask Intel to do some wafers - if they could trust them...lol
https://www.techpowerup.com/224976/samsung-to-optical-shrink-nvidia-pascal-to-14-nmI read that as Samsung was going to produce the chips when they shrink them down to 14nm later in the year. I speculated that they would cut TSMC once Samsung got the boat going on the production.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:27 AM
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I sure am ready for the supply to catch up so the over-inflation with prices will come in check. It's getting bad enough where 9 series cards seem to be rising in value again because the demand is so great that buyers are looking back at the 9 series.
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Re: Nvidia claims tight GeForce GTX 1080,1070 and 1060 supply
Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:06 AM
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prices are still high. no way i'm touching those with that price tag. besides... it appears Volta generation may be with us next year. surprisingly my GTX760 SC still serves me right. ( tho i regret i've bought the 2 GB version.. )
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