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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/14 14:04:35 (permalink)
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Can't wait. Titan X SC is lovely but at 4k it struggles sometimes. I'll be buying the GP100 Titan as soon as it's out, hopefully an EVGA SuperClocked version again.


After the crap the pulled with the titans and 980 TI why would ever spend a grand on card when they make a faster version for 400 dollars less.




Why buy a Titan X over a 980 ti? Simple... Quality.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/14 14:23:11 (permalink)
Watch first public demonstration of Radeon 400 ‘Polaris’ GPU. 4pm PDT march 14
 
http://videocardz.com/58543/amd-capsaicin-gdc-2016-event-live-updates 
 
 
and Silicon isn't gonna be cheap
 
http://www.3dcenter.org/news/hardware-und-nachrichten-links-des-1213-maerz-2016 
 
420 - 1500 Euros for a card?
 
that's about $475 - 1700 USD a card
 
 
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that matches up about what ive seen posted for Nvidia card pricing - expect up to 1700 or $2100 for an upper end - possible dual card
 
 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/14 16:12:48 (permalink)
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Watch first public demonstration of Radeon 400 ‘Polaris’ GPU. 4pm PDT march 14
 
http://videocardz.com/58543/amd-capsaicin-gdc-2016-event-live-updates 
 
 
and Silicon isn't gonna be cheap
 
http://www.3dcenter.org/news/hardware-und-nachrichten-links-des-1213-maerz-2016 
 
420 - 1500 Euros for a card?
 
that's about $475 - 1700 USD a card
 
 
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that matches up about what ive seen posted for Nvidia card pricing - expect up to 1700 or $2100 for an upper end - possible dual card
 
 


$1700 per card? Pfft. 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/14 17:15:30 (permalink)
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After the crap the pulled with the titans and 980 TI why would ever spend a grand on card when they make a faster version for 400 dollars less.

 
I didn't see people crying when the 780Ti was released, and it was more powerful than the Titan, except for double precision and half the VRAM.  It even had more cores unlocked...  980ti v Titan X was no different, except the double precision missing on the Titan X.  Why the double standard?  
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 02:53:42 (permalink)
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We dont need new 1000 seri card now ... 4k panel is just 60fps . And 980ti in sli run over 60 fps now . I dont know what to do with the new seri card ? The only thing we cant do with it now is 1440p 144hz with single gpu. It seem that we dont have > 100 fps monitor 4k next year ...



Maybe you don't want something more powerful, but many of us on the enthusiast side of things do.  You're forgetting that DisplayPort 1.3 will allow us to get 120Hz 4K displays.  I haven't bothered with 4K because I'm so used to high refresh rates, so 60Hz would be a bit of a downgrade, even with the higher resolution.  Also, games are getting more demanding, so naturally we need better graphics cards.  Even two 980 Ti's in SLI will not drive EVERY game over 60FPS at 4K, max settings.  I'm actually very excited for Pascal.  6GB of VRAM is starting to be barely enough for some games at 2560x1440.  HBM 2.0?  Yes please.  DisplayPort 1.3 support?  Yes please.  We'll see 4K 120Hz within the next year.  We probably won't see GP100 until the Q3 or even Q4 at this rate.  The timing is there.

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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 05:25:23 (permalink)
So I found this.




 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 05:35:08 (permalink)
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So I found this.




It still says GM (Maxwell). I wonder if that will get updated later?
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 05:42:27 (permalink)
I can only assume that GPU-Z can't identify what isn't officially out yet, but that did stand out to me.


 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 08:46:20 (permalink)
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So I found this.




Hope that isn't right.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 11:57:19 (permalink)
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 12:11:59 (permalink)
At those prices I am glad I decided to keep my 980 Gaming 4G boards and fit them with EK waterblocks.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 12:30:30 (permalink)
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So I found this.




looks like a GTX 980 ti with different Vram
 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 13:08:16 (permalink)
Looks photoshopped to me. closely look at 8192
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 13:39:24 (permalink)
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looks like a GTX 980 ti with different Vram
 




 
A lot of differences to be the same.  Could very well be the Titan X replacement, since everyone is banking on the 1080.. Titan X and 980ti Are both showing GM200 Revision A1 on GPU-z, although the 980ti is a cut down GM200.

 
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Looks photoshopped to me. closely look at 8192


 
That is totally possible.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 14:11:21 (permalink)
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Can't wait. Titan X SC is lovely but at 4k it struggles sometimes. I'll be buying the GP100 Titan as soon as it's out, hopefully an EVGA SuperClocked version again.


After the crap the pulled with the titans and 980 TI why would ever spend a grand on card when they make a faster version for 400 dollars less.




Why buy a Titan X over a 980 ti? Simple... Quality.


Quality? So your telling me that a 980Ti Classified that's faster than a Titan X not quality? I just found that titans seem they should have been faster for the money.  If you can produce a faster and cheaper card than the titan what was the point? I think they cheapened the Titans when releasing the TI model. Don't get me wrong the Titans are really cool cards I just feel there not were they should be for the money.
 
I just hope when they release the new titans that they will be a lot faster than the 1080 or the ti versions to come.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 14:14:21 (permalink)
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Can't wait. Titan X SC is lovely but at 4k it struggles sometimes. I'll be buying the GP100 Titan as soon as it's out, hopefully an EVGA SuperClocked version again.


After the crap the pulled with the titans and 980 TI why would ever spend a grand on card when they make a faster version for 400 dollars less.




Why buy a Titan X over a 980 ti? Simple... Quality.


Quality? So your telling me that a 980Ti Classified that's faster than a Titan X not quality? I just found that titans seem they should have been faster for the money.  If you can produce a faster and cheaper card than the titan what was the point? I think they cheapened the Titans when releasing the TI model. Don't get me wrong the Titans are really cool cards I just feel there not were they should be for the money.


Guess you don't understand how 980 ti's are made. 980 ti's have two smm units disabled due to chip quality. 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 14:45:46 (permalink)
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Wonder how a single pascal will compare to SLI GTX680's for 2560x1440? If it gives me a boost in FPS then looks like I'll only be getting one card. Needs to hurry up.

I am interested as well. I downloaded The Division and got the dreaded "Your computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements to run this game." I have 2 GTX 480's in SLI. Haven't had the need to upgrade or wanted to since these cards have headers and look nasty... but time to upgrade them!

A gtx950 is faster than a gtx480 while consuming a lot less power. Its getting to the point of buying to save on your electric bill.

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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 15:03:32 (permalink)
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So I found this.



I can only assume that GPU-Z can't identify what isn't officially out yet, but that did stand out to me.

Leave your assumptions and doubts for the intelligent. GPU-Z is obviously capable of forecasting release dates. Thats why it says the 1080 will launch june 1, 2016 on that GPU-Z pic. Just accept the info GPU-Z provides and move on in life knowing it is king.

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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 15:04:07 (permalink)
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So I found this.




Hope that isn't right.


ISSUES :
gm200? - suppose to be GP104 for 1080
600mm Die size? - is gp104 like 350mm - full GP100 is 600mm - why? 4096 pins for HBM2 - 256bit doesn't require that size
28nm? -  suppose to be 16nm Finfet
8000M? TRANSISTORS - suppose to be 17000M (17B) - even a cut down GPU104 would be more than 8B
448.0gb's? - - gddr5X is 1TB's
 
Driver 367.75? we are on 364.51
 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 17:56:55 (permalink)
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So I found this.



I can only assume that GPU-Z can't identify what isn't officially out yet, but that did stand out to me.

Leave your assumptions and doubts for the intelligent. GPU-Z is obviously capable of forecasting release dates. Thats why it says the 1080 will launch june 1, 2016 on that GPU-Z pic. Just accept the info GPU-Z provides and move on in life knowing it is king.

You forgot to encapsule that with [sarcasm][/sarcasm] 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/15 18:11:43 (permalink)
I would really like to premium Pascal cost 900$.
I afraid if NVIDIA continue to ask insane price more and more gamers will easier to search for some option to buy some premium Radeon put under water and keep 3 years and not afraid about optimization, drivers, etc...
It's easy to say medium NVIDIA is enough. But yes medium NVIDIA cost as premium Radeon and it's slower. 
If AMD catch 20% faster cards for few months thanks to NVIDIA drivers what will happen than with some card with same performance as Radeon or slower.

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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/16 02:01:43 (permalink)
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I would really like to premium Pascal cost 900$.
I afraid if NVIDIA continue to ask insane price more and more gamers will easier to search for some option to buy some premium Radeon put under water and keep 3 years and not afraid about optimization, drivers, etc...
It's easy to say medium NVIDIA is enough. But yes medium NVIDIA cost as premium Radeon and it's slower. 
If AMD catch 20% faster cards for few months thanks to NVIDIA drivers what will happen than with some card with same performance as Radeon or slower.




TIL: Vlada doesn't want competition to be a thing, when NVIDIA has >80% of the total market share for discrete GPU.


 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/16 10:28:57 (permalink)
Well if the current information is any indication, it looks like Amd is gonna use the die shrink as an excuse to jack their top end single card to nvidia pricing levels.

It also looks like Amd may be lagging behind nvidia bad with the first iteration of Polaris. HBM2 is likely not on an AMD GPU till mid 2017 when "vega" releases. Which as we know means unless Amd increases the bus width, they are limited to 4gb. Looking towards 3x 4k myself means that makes the first Polaris a no from me.

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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/16 11:09:31 (permalink)
AMD only could try to ask same price as NVIDIA.
Holding 25% of market from people who can't afford GeForce of hate GeFoce or had problems with GeForce they only could try to ask same price. When new dual card show up she will be stronger than TITAN X at least 60%.
Because of that AMD ask 1500$, when Pascal show up that card go down to 850-900$ on same price level as Pascal.
AMD will not be in so bad situation, their Fury X hold nice in DX12 and his price will go down on 400-450$ when new cards show up.
For that price they will offer same performance as TITAN X if NVIDIA continue to joke with drivers.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/16 12:58:04 (permalink)
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So I found this.



I can only assume that GPU-Z can't identify what isn't officially out yet, but that did stand out to me.

Leave your assumptions and doubts for the intelligent. GPU-Z is obviously capable of forecasting release dates. Thats why it says the 1080 will launch june 1, 2016 on that GPU-Z pic. Just accept the info GPU-Z provides and move on in life knowing it is king.

GPU-Z does a pretty good job at calculations. I don't see why people wouldn't believe or even take note on what they're saying.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/16 18:27:09 (permalink)
Been reading some discussions on Techpowerup's forums about this card and AMD's Polaris cards. I firmly believe these cards will utilize GDDR5X and not HBM2....mostly because from what I've read/heard, HBM2 wont be readily available until like Q3 of this year. Which.....could mean that the high-end Pascal GPU "Ti" version could use it potentially. 

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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/16 20:32:31 (permalink)
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Been reading some discussions on Techpowerup's forums about this card and AMD's Polaris cards. I firmly believe these cards will utilize GDDR5X and not HBM2....mostly because from what I've read/heard, HBM2 wont be readily available until like Q3 of this year. Which.....could mean that the high-end Pascal GPU "Ti" version could use it potentially. 




I doubt GP104 will feature HBM 2.0.  That's reserved for enthusiasts, as (1) it's expensive and (2) it isn't ready for the release window of the GP104 cards.  With that said, expect HBM 2.0 and DP 1.3 for GP100.  I'm excited, as this means 4K will finally be attractive for me!  I'll take two of whatever the new Titan is called with a hybrid cooler.

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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/17 01:18:21 (permalink)
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards. 2016/03/17 01:41:31 (permalink)
X80 Titan, I must buy him.
I would rather buy Radeon full Fury X successor than X80Ti with GDDR5 with much less CUDA.
I plan to buy graphic for my birthday in July.... With reference card I will be satisfied.

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