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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/06 23:13:52
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I like how the crowd was blamed for making the card 2C warmer. Looks like I am holding out for volta due to the need of a new 21:10 display and all new hardware to drive the GPU.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/07 00:24:18
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I like how the crowd was blamed for making the card 2C warmer. Looks like I am holding out for volta due to the need of a new 21:10 display and all new hardware to drive the GPU. GTX275 still holding up LoL.
I think you really need new graphic card if you like to play games. You can't even see everything in newest games. Now is DX12 and your card don't even show DX11 advantages. What we could expect from EVGA 1080 reference and Superclocked 1080 ACX and Superclocked ACX 1080 Classified 1080 Hybrid 1080 Hydro Copper That would be first wave probably. Later will arrive probably FTW and K|NGP|N. But I learned that you never know for sure, maybe EVGA decide to present some never seen model or some new name.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/07 00:40:55
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When can we expect EVGA to announce Pascal GTX 1080?
When they announce it, we will know.
When can we expect you to make another forum post?
Really dude? No need to be a ****.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/07 00:43:55
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2017 - sandia lab and other supercomputers get volta ...we get butkis
2017 is pascal refresh - look for titan and 1080TI with HBM2
2018 we get volta
you wanna wait 2 years using a 275 card with no support that is legacy - doomed to fail very soon
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/07 01:12:30
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NVIDIA actually wanted HBM2 this year but quantities of the memory are not sufficient to fulfill the consumer needs.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/07 03:04:20
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To be honest, while it looks really, really interesting I will refrain from upgrade (970) unless there is offering of potential 1 slot cards (with waterblock). Seriously we're long overdue for that. Maxwell wasn't Kepler which required often 3 slot coolers on air. And with Kingpin 980Ti it's proven that it can be done. Was that the only Maxwell which could run in one slot? (excluding mod projects with cutting/de-soldering DVI port(s) ) Wasting good PCI-Ex slot is criminal in my book. I wanted to do SLI on many occasions, but with 4 slots wasted that's no go from the start.
Or I can get just freaking Titan Y and forget about SLI... ;)
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/07 13:33:12
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I was pretty surprised to see support for DisplayPort 1.4 this early. While I'm not too interested in 1.4's ability to use 3:1 lossy compression, the addition of HDR (both static and dynamic) is going to be huge for movie enthusiasts and gamers. In addition, with the increased bandwidth of 32.4Gbps (25.92Gbps after overhead), we can get 3840x2160 at 120Hz with 24-bit SDR color and 3840x2160 at 60Hz with 36-bit HDR color, both losslessly. It will be some time before we can do better than that losslessly since DP 1.3/1.4 is pushing copper connections to their limits and optical connections are too expensive for mass market adoption. I have a feeling the industry will try to push us to compress video streams to move standards forward. I'd rather stick with a 4K/60Hz/36-bit HDR lossless, lowest latency stream. DP 1.4 should support AdaptiveSync and HDMI 2.0b should support dynamic synchronization so no need to stick with G-Sync unless if nVidia is going to not go full spec on these standards. I'm curious into how the new SLI HB (High-Bandwidth) Bridge will affect SLI performance. Currently, bridges operate at 1GB/s. With the HB Bridge (Pascal only), that gets bumped up to 2GB/s. Hopefully manufacturers like EVGA will make a v3 bridge that supports these new speeds. I would also like to see 3-way and 4-way HB bridges since nVidia is only showing off 2-way ones.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/07 13:47:37
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2017 - sandia lab and other supercomputers get volta ...we get butkis
2017 is pascal refresh - look for titan and 1080TI with HBM2
2018 we get volta
you wanna wait 2 years using a 275 card with no support that is legacy - doomed to fail very soon
Ya I heard next year is pascal refresh. But I might wait to get a new cpu til the kaby lake version of the just announced i7-6785R which the kaby version will launch about a year from today. Ill switch to using the decked out iGPU rather than my 275. Then I figure it will b a year or two before there is a 3840x1600 @ 100+ Hz that meets my expectations. Gotta have a display with DP 1.4 to use the DP1.4 on pascal. By the time I get all that, Volta will be about 6 months away if I can have money to spare; but im certain a 1080Ti will b nice and cheap by then..
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/07 16:39:16
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I'm going to wait till all you cool cats complain about the bugs in the 1st batch of cards. When the 3 or 4th batch come out (6-8 months after its release) I'll consider to get these.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/08 08:23:14
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I really want to see nVidia make a dual GPU GP100 card with 80GB/s NVLink between the two GPUs. That would be the card to get. Get rid of the DVI connector, making it a single slot card when you put a waterblock on it, and you could make a really sweet rig with that.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/08 12:50:53
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/08 12:58:40
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Am I assuming correctly from my brief reading that one new 1080 would technically outperform my curent triple sli Titan (original)?
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/08 14:33:20
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Am I assuming correctly from my brief reading that one new 1080 would technically outperform my curent triple sli Titan (original)?
I'd also like to know this as I'm currently running triple SLI Titans as well.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/08 18:09:19
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I like how the crowd was blamed for making the card 2C warmer. Looks like I am holding out for volta due to the need of a new 21:10 display and all new hardware to drive the GPU. GTX275 still holding up LoL.
I think you really need new graphic card if you like to play games.
You can't even see everything in newest games. Now is DX12 and your card don't even show DX11 advantages.
What we could expect from EVGA
1080 reference and Superclocked
1080 ACX and Superclocked ACX
1080 Classified
1080 Hybrid
1080 Hydro Copper
That would be first wave probably.
Later will arrive probably FTW and K|NGP|N.
But I learned that you never know for sure, maybe EVGA decide to present some never seen model or some new name.
I am really hoping there is a GTX 1080 Dual Classified Hydro Copper. I am wanting to replace my 780 of the same type. If not I hope at least one company releases an overbuilt 1080 with a full cover water block and backplate. I don't see the point in overbuilt cards with air coolers and putting a water block on yourself is a hassle especially if it needs an RMA.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/08 21:58:02
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 00:30:09
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I like how the crowd was blamed for making the card 2C warmer. Looks like I am holding out for volta due to the need of a new 21:10 display and all new hardware to drive the GPU. GTX275 still holding up LoL.
I think you really need new graphic card if you like to play games.
You can't even see everything in newest games. Now is DX12 and your card don't even show DX11 advantages.
What we could expect from EVGA
1080 reference and Superclocked
1080 ACX and Superclocked ACX
1080 Classified
1080 Hybrid
1080 Hydro Copper
That would be first wave probably.
Later will arrive probably FTW and K|NGP|N.
But I learned that you never know for sure, maybe EVGA decide to present some never seen model or some new name.
I am really hoping there is a GTX 1080 Dual Classified Hydro Copper. I am wanting to replace my 780 of the same type. If not I hope at least one company releases an overbuilt 1080 with a full cover water block and backplate. I don't see the point in overbuilt cards with air coolers and putting a water block on yourself is a hassle especially if it needs an RMA.
EVGA will launch 1080 with waterblock 100%. But I suggest you to prepare self now and don't miss chance when cards show up. Hydro Copper is hardest to find in first months. You will need to check every 2-3 days before cards show up and than every day if you want to buy.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 01:13:32
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Heard that press left Austin, TX with 1080 cards in hand and that NDA embargo is lifted on May 17th. Got another week before we can dig through some meaningful numbers...
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 04:42:56
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I would play Fallout 4 now with GTX1080.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 06:39:27
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I would play Fallout 4 now with GTX1080.
?? it didn't have issues on the 900 series....
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 06:46:58
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Heard that press left Austin, TX with 1080 cards in hand and that NDA embargo is lifted on May 17th. Got another week before we can dig through some meaningful numbers...
What kind of numbers are you looking for? To have it simply put, it will almost double the performance of a 980 (in comparison with a 1080).
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 10:24:45
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Heard that press left Austin, TX with 1080 cards in hand and that NDA embargo is lifted on May 17th. Got another week before we can dig through some meaningful numbers...
What kind of numbers are you looking for? To have it simply put, it will almost double the performance of a 980 (in comparison with a 1080).
That's NVIDIA marketing. You're silly to blindly accept the numbers that they provided in the keynote. Those come from the highest binned 1080 samples, in the absolute best situations. Possibly even overclocked since they ran the example at the conference on a highly overclocked 1080. As gamers we care about FPS. NVIDIA hasn't provided these numbers. Lots of other numbers as well.... like can all cards reach 2 GHz overclocked? How hot does it run? Is the single 8 pin going to bottleneck overclocks?
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 10:58:16
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Heard that press left Austin, TX with 1080 cards in hand and that NDA embargo is lifted on May 17th. Got another week before we can dig through some meaningful numbers...
What kind of numbers are you looking for? To have it simply put, it will almost double the performance of a 980 (in comparison with a 1080).
That's NVIDIA marketing. You're silly to blindly accept the numbers that they provided in the keynote. Those come from the highest binned 1080 samples, in the absolute best situations. Possibly even overclocked since they ran the example at the conference on a highly overclocked 1080.
As gamers we care about FPS. NVIDIA hasn't provided these numbers. Lots of other numbers as well.... like can all cards reach 2 GHz overclocked? How hot does it run? Is the single 8 pin going to bottleneck overclocks?
If the card is going to provide games to go over well over 100fps, regardless of the card overclocked or not, why would you need to worry about overclocking? It's also not a "marketing scheme". Everybody knows the new generation is almost double the performance, every time, on the next generation. That's how it has always been.
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2016/05/09 12:41:22
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 15:58:51
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Heard that press left Austin, TX with 1080 cards in hand and that NDA embargo is lifted on May 17th. Got another week before we can dig through some meaningful numbers...
What kind of numbers are you looking for? To have it simply put, it will almost double the performance of a 980 (in comparison with a 1080).
That's NVIDIA marketing. You're silly to blindly accept the numbers that they provided in the keynote. Those come from the highest binned 1080 samples, in the absolute best situations. Possibly even overclocked since they ran the example at the conference on a highly overclocked 1080.
As gamers we care about FPS. NVIDIA hasn't provided these numbers. Lots of other numbers as well.... like can all cards reach 2 GHz overclocked? How hot does it run? Is the single 8 pin going to bottleneck overclocks?
If the card is going to provide games to go over well over 100fps, regardless of the card overclocked or not, why would you need to worry about overclocking?
It's also not a "marketing scheme". Everybody knows the new generation is almost double the performance, every time, on the next generation. That's how it has always been.
Yeah, 100 FPS if you are gaming at 1920x1080. I game at 4K so I do care about overclocking and so do many other people who play above 1080p.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 16:37:08
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Heard that press left Austin, TX with 1080 cards in hand and that NDA embargo is lifted on May 17th. Got another week before we can dig through some meaningful numbers...
What kind of numbers are you looking for? To have it simply put, it will almost double the performance of a 980 (in comparison with a 1080).
That's NVIDIA marketing. You're silly to blindly accept the numbers that they provided in the keynote. Those come from the highest binned 1080 samples, in the absolute best situations. Possibly even overclocked since they ran the example at the conference on a highly overclocked 1080.
As gamers we care about FPS. NVIDIA hasn't provided these numbers. Lots of other numbers as well.... like can all cards reach 2 GHz overclocked? How hot does it run? Is the single 8 pin going to bottleneck overclocks?
If the card is going to provide games to go over well over 100fps, regardless of the card overclocked or not, why would you need to worry about overclocking?
It's also not a "marketing scheme". Everybody knows the new generation is almost double the performance, every time, on the next generation. That's how it has always been.
Yeah, 100 FPS if you are gaming at 1920x1080. I game at 4K so I do care about overclocking and so do many other people who play above 1080p.
I never said anything about 1080p... (???) the market is finally about to release 4K monitors which are capable of going over 120fps, yes. But can you afford it? Marketing price right now is ~$4,000. I wont judge you for that or make any opinion if you're going for one, However, even 970s in SLI are capable of going over 100fps at 1440p. While it is a valid point to say the "affordable" 4K monitors don't go over 60FPS, a single 1080 (even a 1070) will easily reach 60fps. So, again, why do you need the overclocking? If it's for benchmarking, then say that. Because that's all I wanted to know...  Because that is all overclocking is for.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 16:40:26
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Custom Nvidia GTX 1080 Cards Teased By Gigabyte & Galax – 2Ghz Factory Overclocked 1080s On The Horizon?
Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-gigayte-galax-custom-cards-teased/#ixzz48Bn3jZfn
If they OC Air overclocked cards than EVGA could offer similar clock with Hybrid. Hybrid is ideal for high overclocking. They could launch even two version of Hybrid. It's much easier to Hybrid and 2x120mm fans deal with so high clock.
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2016/05/09 16:50:17
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Heard that press left Austin, TX with 1080 cards in hand and that NDA embargo is lifted on May 17th. Got another week before we can dig through some meaningful numbers...
What kind of numbers are you looking for? To have it simply put, it will almost double the performance of a 980 (in comparison with a 1080).
That's NVIDIA marketing. You're silly to blindly accept the numbers that they provided in the keynote. Those come from the highest binned 1080 samples, in the absolute best situations. Possibly even overclocked since they ran the example at the conference on a highly overclocked 1080.
As gamers we care about FPS. NVIDIA hasn't provided these numbers. Lots of other numbers as well.... like can all cards reach 2 GHz overclocked? How hot does it run? Is the single 8 pin going to bottleneck overclocks?
If the card is going to provide games to go over well over 100fps, regardless of the card overclocked or not, why would you need to worry about overclocking?
It's also not a "marketing scheme". Everybody knows the new generation is almost double the performance, every time, on the next generation. That's how it has always been.
Yeah, 100 FPS if you are gaming at 1920x1080. I game at 4K so I do care about overclocking and so do many other people who play above 1080p.
I never said anything about 1080p... (???) the market is finally about to release 4K monitors which are capable of going over 120fps, yes. But can you afford it? Marketing price right now is ~$4,000. I wont judge you for that or make any opinion if you're going for one, However, even 970s in SLI are capable of going over 100fps at 1440p. While it is a valid point to say the "affordable" 4K monitors don't go over 60FPS, a single 1080 (even a 1070) will easily reach 60fps. So, again, why do you need the overclocking? If it's for benchmarking, then say that. Because that's all I wanted to know...
I had the PG278Q and I just upgraded to the PG27AQ. I've run both monitors on 3 way Titan SLI. Cost isn't a concern for me but stability is. PG27AQ suffers from backlight bleeding so I am hoping that some of the DP 1.4 4K 100 Hz monitors can do better. If so, I'll buy. I'm interested in seeing where you found that the 4K 120 Hz monitors are going to cost $4,000. Can you please share your sources? I'm willing to bet that the 1080 won't even be able to handle BF4, a two year old game, at 4k, Ultra settings, with 200 % resolution in game scaling. Not to mention, I'm wanting my new 1080 to be able to handle BF1, which most likely will be running Frostbite 4 and create a new era of graphics requirements for games.
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