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2016/05/01 10:57:17 (permalink)
This is a brand new build that I just built......except for the 9 month old video card
X99 Micro 2
evga 980 ti classified (9 months old)
GSkill 3200 32gb Trident Z
evga 850 G2 PS
 
So in a previous post i talked about my Bios  not saving settings
I re-flashed the Bios and cleared the COMS and set everything to default
I re-installed windows and now I'm having an issue with Artifacts in games (titanfall, Battelfield 4)
 
All my temps are fine and I have re seated the card 3 times
I went into the Bios and my PS is setting at 12.180
 
My buddy said it sounded like a power issue and sure enough if I set my Bios to adaptive and +100 the artifacts went away..............
 
My Video card use to be in a Z97 Classified with 2 8pin Power Plugs with no issues ever
and this X99 Micro 2 MB has only 1 8pin conector
 
So My question is:
Is this video card pulling Too Much Power for the PCI of this X99 Micro 2 MB ??????
 
Best Regards, Rick
post edited by V84x4 - 2016/05/02 16:24:10

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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/01 11:09:02 (permalink)
    I highly doubt that but could be wrong.  This board was built to handle high-end GPUs, presumably of course.

    When ever there are artifacts involved with GPUs, its either A. GPU drivers or B. GPU deterioration or on its last leg in other words.
     
    Have you tried a backup PSU or tested the one you have in the rig as we speak?

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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/01 11:13:49 (permalink)
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    I highly doubt that but could be wrong.  This board was built to handle high-end GPUs, presumably of course.

    When ever there are artifacts involved with GPUs, its either A. GPU drivers or B. GPU deterioration or on its last leg in other words.
     
    Have you tried a backup PSU or tested the one you have in the rig as we speak?




    I put the card back into the other PC and it works fine
    evga tech support also recommended that I revert back to NVIDIA 362.000 driver
    so on this fresh install I did just that !!!!
     
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 04:15:16 (permalink)
    I have the Micro2 and run a modded Titan X that pulls up to 375w in stress testing, yet ive had absolutely no issues, ive even pushed it to 1504MHz and successfully benched on firestrike without artifacts.

    Artifacts with nvidia cards generally mean the VRAM is being pushed too far.

    Run your GPU at stock settings. See how that goes.

    Run RAM at auto settings (that will be 2133 C15) and see how that goes, its unlikely but possible that your memory is not fully stable and is causing corrupted textures.

    I notice you have GSkill 3200 memory, what are the actual settings you are running it at?

    I have 3200 mhz memory too but my cpu cant run anything above 2400, even 2666 with a tonne of IMC voltage and loose timings cant get it running stable, sometimes i can get into windows but its still not stable. And actually benches at lower bandwidth than 2400 C12.

     
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 04:18:34 (permalink)
    "My buddy said it sounded like a power issue and sure enough if I set my Bios to adaptive and +100 the artifacts went away.............."

    Also, what settings is this? vRing? vCore? vCCSA?

    If putting more power in the CPU and / or IMC is fixing it, that points towards a memory stability problem to me.

     
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 04:29:30 (permalink)
    ValkyrieStar
    "My buddy said it sounded like a power issue and sure enough if I set my Bios to adaptive and +100 the artifacts went away.............."

    Also, what settings is this? vRing? vCore? vCCSA?

    If putting more power in the CPU and / or IMC is fixing it, that points towards a memory stability problem to me.

    In that case try one stick of memory at a time in the same slot to see what happens. 

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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 04:32:02 (permalink)
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    "My buddy said it sounded like a power issue and sure enough if I set my Bios to adaptive and +100 the artifacts went away.............."

    Also, what settings is this? vRing? vCore? vCCSA?

    If putting more power in the CPU and / or IMC is fixing it, that points towards a memory stability problem to me.

    In that case try one stick of memory at a time in the same slot to see what happens. 


    At auto settings too, its possible that if your trying to run 3200MHz ram, the cpus IMC is struggling. Mine has almost exactly the same issues trying to run 2666. Except i never tried to game on it.

     
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 06:10:12 (permalink)
    rjohnson11

    In that case try one stick of memory at a time in the same slot to see what happens. 



    I did as you said rjohnson
    and here's my conclusion:
    Bios set to completely stock, ram at 2133mhz
     
    Step #1
    I did one stick of ram at a time at 2133 and got artifacts in game every time
     
    Step #2
    Set XMP to #1 (3200mhz)
    Tried one stick at a time and got  artifacts in game every time
     
    Step #3
    Set XMP to #1 (3200mhz)
    Set Adaptive mode to on and +100
    Tried one stick at a time and got  NO artifacts in game every time 
     
    Step #4
    Set XMP to #1 (3200mhz)
    Set Adaptive mode to on and +100
    Set CPU to 3.8ghz
    Tried All four sticks and got  NO artifacts in game.................YAY
     
    Can some one explain what the over clocked ram and adaptive settings are doing so I have a better understanding please
     
     
    Best Regards Rick

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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 06:46:48 (permalink)
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    rjohnson11

    In that case try one stick of memory at a time in the same slot to see what happens. 



    I did as you said rjohnson
    and here's my conclusion:
    Bios set to completely stock, ram at 2133mhz
     
    Step #1
    I did one stick of ram at a time at 2133 and got artifacts in game every time
     
    Step #2
    Set XMP to #1 (3200mhz)
    Tried one stick at a time and got  artifacts in game every time
     
    Step #3
    Set XMP to #1 (3200mhz)
    Set Adaptive mode to on and +100
    Tried one stick at a time and got  NO artifacts in game every time 
     
    Step #4
    Set XMP to #1 (3200mhz)
    Set Adaptive mode to on and +100
    Set CPU to 3.8ghz
    Tried All four sticks and got  NO artifacts in game.................YAY
     
    Can some one explain what the over clocked ram and adaptive settings are doing so I have a better understanding please
     
     
    Best Regards Rick


    By default, manufacturers (Hynix, Samsung etc) rate memory chips at upto 2133MHz (JEDEC specifications). 3rd party companies buy these chips and bin them for higher frequencies. These higher bins are put in as XMP profiles. Setting to ab XMP profile merely sets the memory to its higher binned speed, it also pushes the IMC out of spec, which may or may not be stable.

    Adaptive voltage has 2 options. Offset and Upper Limit. Offset applies an offset to all voltages across the curve. Where Upper Limit defines the max voltage that the voltage curve reaches at the top frequency without effect the idle voltages.

    Example:
    Stock: 0.750v idle 0.950v load.
    Offset +100mV: 0.850v idle 1.050v load.
    Maximum 1.1v: 0.750v idle 1.100v load.

    Manual voltage sets a constant voltage.

    Which voltage did you set to adaptive and +100? I'm assuming vcore, but that wouldnt make much sense.

    Also what CPU is this?

    3200MHz ram on an X99 system is very nice, if not slightly lucky - my CPU cant even go above 2400.

    Instead of setting to adaptive, set manual vcore and dial in 1.1v and keep the frequencies at stock.

    When you enable an XMP profile, for whatever reason this makes the cpu frequency settings change.

     
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 06:59:56 (permalink)
    Typically artifacts are one of four things:
     

    1. Bad RAM
    2. Faulty video card
    3. Overheating/unstable overclocking
    4. Power supply failing
     
    At this point it seems like you have ruled out the video card and most likely the PSU. Have you checked your temps for all components? Something may be overheating. If not, then I would take a multimeter to the power supply and get a more accurate reading on the 12v, 5v, and 3.3v rails under load.

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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 08:25:52 (permalink)
    Everything is Brand new  (Except the 980 ti Classy)
     
    Specs are as fallows:
    Motherboard evga Micro 2 Bios version 1.9
    CPU Intel 5820K-E 3.3 ghz
    Ram 4 8 gig stix of GSkill trydent "Z" 3200MHz DDR4 Trident Z Desktop Memory (F4-3200C16D-16GTZB)
    evga 850G@ Power Supply
     
     
    With my ram at 3200 using XMP #1 and Adaptive and Vcore at +127
    I can get 4.2 ghz from my processor stable in game
    I ran a fire strike at 4.2 and got a score of 16924 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8245080

     
    So what ever is the problem with the ram
    I guess it just likes running at 3200 instead of 2133........Weird ha?
     
    I will be testing more as suggested but I'm glad I have this
    community to always refer to for help
     
    Best regards, Rick
     

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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 11:49:26 (permalink)
    Your RAM's XMP profile takes the RAM voltage to 1.35V, the stock RAM setting is 1.2V. Wierd, but it may be that your RAM isn't stable at stock speed and stock voltage.

    You could try to set 2133MHz and 1.35V for the RAM and see if the artifacts go away, then you'll know that it is a problem with the RAM's voltage.
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 15:08:27 (permalink)
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    Your RAM's XMP profile takes the RAM voltage to 1.35V, the stock RAM setting is 1.2V. Wierd, but it may be that your RAM isn't stable at stock speed and stock voltage.

    You could try to set 2133MHz and 1.35V for the RAM and see if the artifacts go away, then you'll know that it is a problem with the RAM's voltage.



    I have done as you suggested and Guess What ? No Artifacts
     
    What does this mean?
     
     

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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 15:26:26 (permalink)
    It means that at the DDR4 standard of 2133MHz and 1.2V your RAM doesn't play nice. Just don't run your RAM at 1.2V!

    HOWEVER! If you have it running just fine with XMP 1 (3200MHz and 1.35V) I would say that is a huge win since many CPUs just don't work with the IMC over clocked so high.

    If it works at XMP 1 settings, I think you're golden. If you want to be sure everything works without error, I'd burn a copy of Memtest 86 version 6 and run a multi-threaded check for a couple of hours to verify that there aren't any memory problems.
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/02 15:50:18 (permalink)
    Thanks again for everyone's help

    Look MOM !!!!
    Look what I can do.................stable thanks to you guys and gals (Vcore @ +130)
     

     
    This is where I think I will Keep it
    4.2 is just insane and I like my lower temps in game
     

     
     
    Best Regards, Rick
     
     
     
    post edited by V84x4 - 2016/05/02 16:01:42

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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/06 09:01:15 (permalink)
    I see your last screenshots, 4.2GHz @ 1.2v, then 3.8GHz @ 1.2v.
     
    Surely you could reduce the voltage for the cpu on that. 1.2 is almost definately unnecessary, my 3770K ran 4.0 at 1.075v, 4790K ran 4.4 at 1.125v and my 5820K runs 4.0 at 1.075v.
    You could probably drop the temps a lot by lowering voltages a bit.
     
    Use the Adaptive setting, and rather than using offset, just use the standard one, try 1.050v at first, that should be fine, then drop it by 0.025v till its not stable then bump it back up to the last stable and test for full stability.
     
    That 3200 ram tho is sexy... still upset my cpu cant run above 2400 ;~;
     

     
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/06 13:36:17 (permalink)
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    I see your last screenshots, 4.2GHz @ 1.2v, then 3.8GHz @ 1.2v.
     
    Surely you could reduce the voltage for the cpu on that. 1.2 is almost definately unnecessary, my 3770K ran 4.0 at 1.075v, 4790K ran 4.4 at 1.125v and my 5820K runs 4.0 at 1.075v.
    You could probably drop the temps a lot by lowering voltages a bit.
     
    Use the Adaptive setting, and rather than using offset, just use the standard one, try 1.050v at first, that should be fine, then drop it by 0.025v till its not stable then bump it back up to the last stable and test for full stability.
     
    That 3200 ram tho is sexy... still upset my cpu cant run above 2400 ;~;
     




     
    Wow.......Thanks for that I will try tonight when i get home
    That sure would help with temps if possible
     
    BTW
    What set up are you running?
     
    I just installed a 950 pro M.2 and had to mess with CSM settings and "Compatibility"  for M.2
    and found that RAM dosnt over clock so good with those settings
    so after I installed windows I turned CSM and compatibility  off and I am able to hit 3200mhz again
     
    If you have CSM enabled you may try turning that off to get your ram to go higher
     
    just a sugestion  as I don't know enough about this stuff
    just trying to help
     
    Best Regards,Rick
     
     
     

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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/06 19:19:35 (permalink)
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    I see your last screenshots, 4.2GHz @ 1.2v, then 3.8GHz @ 1.2v.
     
    Surely you could reduce the voltage for the cpu on that. 1.2 is almost definately unnecessary, my 3770K ran 4.0 at 1.075v, 4790K ran 4.4 at 1.125v and my 5820K runs 4.0 at 1.075v.
    You could probably drop the temps a lot by lowering voltages a bit.
     
    Use the Adaptive setting, and rather than using offset, just use the standard one, try 1.050v at first, that should be fine, then drop it by 0.025v till its not stable then bump it back up to the last stable and test for full stability.
     
    That 3200 ram tho is sexy... still upset my cpu cant run above 2400 ;~;
     




     
    Wow.......Thanks for that I will try tonight when i get home
    That sure would help with temps if possible
     
    BTW
    What set up are you running?
     
    I just installed a 950 pro M.2 and had to mess with CSM settings and "Compatibility"  for M.2
    and found that RAM dosnt over clock so good with those settings
    so after I installed windows I turned CSM and compatibility  off and I am able to hit 3200mhz again
     
    If you have CSM enabled you may try turning that off to get your ram to go higher
     
    just a sugestion  as I don't know enough about this stuff
    just trying to help
     
    Best Regards,Rick
     
     
     




    i7-5820K @ 4.0 GHz - 1.075v Adaptive
    32GB (4x8GB) - Corsair LPX 3200 C16 @ 2400 C12
    Titan X in slot #1
    950 Pro in slot #2
    Nothing in slot #3
    M.2 empty and Disabled.
     
    I have my 950 Pro in a M.2 to PCIe adapter, CSM is also disabled.
     
    I even tried resetting the bios completely, still couldnt manage 2666 properly, most of the time it wouldnt boot, and when it did, it was a bit flakey after a while and posted lower bandwidths on AIDA64 cache/mem bench than 2400 lol.

     
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/07 08:35:52 (permalink)
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     ...I even tried resetting the bios completely, still couldnt manage 2666 properly, most of the time it wouldnt boot, and when it did, it was a bit flakey after a while and posted lower bandwidths on AIDA64 cache/mem bench than 2400 lol.




    I had the exact same issue with my X79 Dark and a 3930K and a 1650V2 (4930K equivalent). Setting my RAM to 2400MHz, which took tons to tweaking to make it stable, would run around 30% slower than at 2133MHz.
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    Re: Now New issue X99 Micro2 2016/05/08 20:17:09 (permalink)


    Computer Specs:
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    TRIDENT Z 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3200,  evga 2080 Super, EK waterblock
     980 PRO M.2 1TB ,evga 1000w G3 psu, LG GSYNC 4KK Curved 32 inch, Windows 10 64bit 


     
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