Hey guys...Am I reading this article correctly? Is there no way to disable win 10 automatic driver updates? I guess I can live with security and system updates being automatic, but there is no way i'm using an operating system that doesn't allow me to disable windows driver updates. Is there a version of Windows 10 that allows you to disable automatic updates?
 
http://www.forbes.com/sit...x&partner=yahootix

Wow seriously!...So, with the pro version windows 10 update will overwrite my Nvidia driver with the windows version in 8 months??. Figures... I have 3 copies of win 7 home premium. No free upgrades for me. Come on Microsoft!...give the people the option. I shouldn't need a 3rd party app. to disable auto driver updates.

Man what BS. How can they not see that this will be a total disaster? Eight months after release everyone will be having graphic driver issues.

Exxxtacy
Wow seriously!...So, with the pro version windows 10 update will overwrite my Nvidia driver with the windows version in 8 months??. Figures... I have 3 copies of win 7 home premium. No free upgrades for me. Come on Microsoft!...give the people the option. I shouldn't need a 3rd party app. to disable auto driver updates.

Ya, and what makes it really suck rocks, beside a situation like yodaps, is that when windows update comes on it sucks all the cpu cycles down and takes over your net connection too, so everything crashes, locks etc... and if your gaming at the time it really drives you mad. I wouldn't do the upgrade anyway, just because 7 is too good to lose forever..... yes I know you can roll back for a certain amount of time yada,yada,yada etc..... and 10 is just not compelling enough, imo, for me to want it right from the start. I will probably wait about a year and maybe buy it then when their is a good base of games that utilize dx12, they put out a service pack or whatever they want to call it now and their are some apps out there to combat redmonds dim witted decisions they made.
 

There is no way to click pause download button on Windows 10 update, right? (for bandwidth reason) Good thing, I got Windows 8.1 Pro license from friend of mine. I am planning get Windows 10 Pro.

notuptome2004

wmmills

Exxxtacy
Wow seriously!...So, with the pro version windows 10 update will overwrite my Nvidia driver with the windows version in 8 months??. Figures... I have 3 copies of win 7 home premium. No free upgrades for me. Come on Microsoft!...give the people the option. I shouldn't need a 3rd party app. to disable auto driver updates.

Ya, and what makes it really suck rocks, beside a situation like yodaps, is that when windows update comes on it sucks all the cpu cycles down and takes over your net connection too, so everything crashes, locks etc... and if your gaming at the time it really drives you mad. I wouldn't do the upgrade anyway, just because 7 is too good to lose forever..... yes I know you can roll back for a certain amount of time yada,yada,yada etc..... and 10 is just not compelling enough, imo, for me to want it right from the start. I will probably wait about a year and maybe buy it then when their is a good base of games that utilize dx12, they put out a service pack or whatever they want to call it now and their are some apps out there to combat redmonds dim witted decisions they made.
 

 
 
Miss informed   umm i game all the time right now on Windows 10 while windows update  runs and geuess what  system has no lag  and windows update does not eat up all your CPU so quit spouting false things.   Also  the  fact  is since your gamer why would you not want to be on the  latest OS with all the latest  OS optimizations for gaming  Right out of the gate  DX12 improves existing  games  by  better utilizing  the  CPU and  properly  Threading out workloads.  oh  WT you wait a year to pay for windows 10 when it is  currently Freee and once you get it it is your forever    what thinking is this crap
 
 

This post is useless...I don't care if its "free". Of course I want DX 12 and Win 10. I don't want 3 "free" copies of Win 10 home if it is dumbed down with no control. I want an OS I can control the driver updates...period!. Did you read the linked article? Uncontrolable updates are causing problems. Same crap with Microsoft with every new OS release.  Something in the OS most users want to control or disable, Microsoft makes it so you can't.

notuptome2004

bdary

notuptome2004

wmmills

Exxxtacy
Wow seriously!...So, with the pro version windows 10 update will overwrite my Nvidia driver with the windows version in 8 months??. Figures... I have 3 copies of win 7 home premium. No free upgrades for me. Come on Microsoft!...give the people the option. I shouldn't need a 3rd party app. to disable auto driver updates.

Ya, and what makes it really suck rocks, beside a situation like yodaps, is that when windows update comes on it sucks all the cpu cycles down and takes over your net connection too, so everything crashes, locks etc... and if your gaming at the time it really drives you mad. I wouldn't do the upgrade anyway, just because 7 is too good to lose forever..... yes I know you can roll back for a certain amount of time yada,yada,yada etc..... and 10 is just not compelling enough, imo, for me to want it right from the start. I will probably wait about a year and maybe buy it then when their is a good base of games that utilize dx12, they put out a service pack or whatever they want to call it now and their are some apps out there to combat redmonds dim witted decisions they made.
 

 
 
Miss informed   umm i game all the time right now on Windows 10 while windows update  runs and geuess what  system has no lag  and windows update does not eat up all your CPU so quit spouting false things.   Also  the  fact  is since your gamer why would you not want to be on the  latest OS with all the latest  OS optimizations for gaming  Right out of the gate  DX12 improves existing  games  by  better utilizing  the  CPU and  properly  Threading out workloads.  oh  WT you wait a year to pay for windows 10 when it is  currently Freee and once you get it it is your forever    what thinking is this crap
 
 

Do you have any sources that show this to be the case?  I'd be interested to see some evidence (comparisons) that DX9, 10, or 11 games work better using a DX12 capable OS even though the game itself isn't coded to use DX12.

 
 
 
yes i have proof the fact my games are running better then they did  in windows 8.1  and  multitasking is much smoother on my system while i got a game on  . here is  a test done on the API   as DX12   reduces the CPU overhead  that  causes  CPU limted games to well be CPU limited    and effectivly  makes Draw calls much faster  less waiting between the CPU and GPU  and this can be seen now  .  of course games  and or applications   that are  direct programmed for DX12   can and will see even more performance  this  tho out of box  is really good      
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4dsiq-I7g
 
 
 

I was hoping you had some DX11 game benchmarks showing the difference running on Win10 vs Win7 or 8.1.  That's what I was asking for as proof to your claim above.
 
That 3DMark DX12 API overhead test was written (coded) to run on DX12 and DX11 where current games are not.  I don't imagine anyone not agreeing that DX12 will be great for gaming once new games are written to use it.
 
I played a few games I have running Win10 and those same games then on Win7.  I didn't see any performance difference.  I don't multitask while gaming so I can't comment on that aspect.  When I'm gaming, that's all I'm doing.  The only things running in the background are what's needed to run the OS and the game.
 
If you do come across any of those benchmark comparisons, it would be interesting to see them...

bdary

notuptome2004

bdary

notuptome2004

wmmills

Exxxtacy
Wow seriously!...So, with the pro version windows 10 update will overwrite my Nvidia driver with the windows version in 8 months??. Figures... I have 3 copies of win 7 home premium. No free upgrades for me. Come on Microsoft!...give the people the option. I shouldn't need a 3rd party app. to disable auto driver updates.

Ya, and what makes it really suck rocks, beside a situation like yodaps, is that when windows update comes on it sucks all the cpu cycles down and takes over your net connection too, so everything crashes, locks etc... and if your gaming at the time it really drives you mad. I wouldn't do the upgrade anyway, just because 7 is too good to lose forever..... yes I know you can roll back for a certain amount of time yada,yada,yada etc..... and 10 is just not compelling enough, imo, for me to want it right from the start. I will probably wait about a year and maybe buy it then when their is a good base of games that utilize dx12, they put out a service pack or whatever they want to call it now and their are some apps out there to combat redmonds dim witted decisions they made.
 

 
 
Miss informed   umm i game all the time right now on Windows 10 while windows update  runs and geuess what  system has no lag  and windows update does not eat up all your CPU so quit spouting false things.   Also  the  fact  is since your gamer why would you not want to be on the  latest OS with all the latest  OS optimizations for gaming  Right out of the gate  DX12 improves existing  games  by  better utilizing  the  CPU and  properly  Threading out workloads.  oh  WT you wait a year to pay for windows 10 when it is  currently Freee and once you get it it is your forever    what thinking is this crap
 
 

Do you have any sources that show this to be the case?  I'd be interested to see some evidence (comparisons) that DX9, 10, or 11 games work better using a DX12 capable OS even though the game itself isn't coded to use DX12.

 
 
 
yes i have proof the fact my games are running better then they did  in windows 8.1  and  multitasking is much smoother on my system while i got a game on  . here is  a test done on the API   as DX12   reduces the CPU overhead  that  causes  CPU limted games to well be CPU limited    and effectivly  makes Draw calls much faster  less waiting between the CPU and GPU  and this can be seen now  .  of course games  and or applications   that are  direct programmed for DX12   can and will see even more performance  this  tho out of box  is really good      
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4dsiq-I7g
 
 
 

I was hoping you had some DX11 game benchmarks showing the difference running on Win10 vs Win7 or 8.1.  That's what I was asking for as proof to your claim above.
 
That 3DMark DX12 API overhead test was written (coded) to run on DX12 and DX11 where current games are not.  I don't imagine anyone not agreeing that DX12 will be great for gaming once new games are written to use it.
 
I played a few games I have running Win10 and those same games then on Win7.  I didn't see any performance difference.  I don't multitask while gaming so I can't comment on that aspect.  When I'm gaming, that's all I'm doing.  The only things running in the background are what's needed to run the OS and the game.
 
If you do come across any of those benchmark comparisons, it would be interesting to see them...

 
 
 
( Not my videos or Rig)  well here is a couple of test   gaming    2 project cars    video  first one is  Windows 7 vs windows 10   tho this video is from march  so a very very old build  of 10   it shows  a huge differant in performance good performance boost over windows 7   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuSoi7HAnkw       And if you notice  in both videos or least the first one you will also notice while  PC has more FPS  the  CPU usage is lower  then windows  7  
 
 
Now this one is  Windows 8.1 vs Windows 10  newer build   but also shows a performance leap on windows 10     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFe5OOHZko     
 
 
 
 
So anyways yea  this is just 1 game but still shows that by default windows 10 runs the same game at better performance  more FPS while  keeping CPU usage much lower    much more optimised   windows 10 is  because of Directx 12  despite the fact the game was and is a DX11.1 game   Mind you this guy is running  older version of windows 10 as this is from MAy  

So setting the windows update service inside services.msc to disabled doesn't stop the updating? 

Sajin
So setting the windows update service inside services.msc to disabled doesn't stop the updating? 

If you uninstall an update in W10, Windows update detects it and will eventually stop giving you ANY updates at all, security or otherwise, until you reinstall that update. That's how nasty and vindictive these MS asshats are, and how determined they are to shove their crap down your throat and tell you how much you like it.
 

LJennings
MS is releasing an app to block updates: http://www.windowscentral.com/dont-want-mandatory-windows-10-updates-microsoft-has-tool-block-some
Will not be "included" in Windows 10, but can be downloaded from MS.

Good find!

 



 
 
Miss informed   umm i game all the time right now on Windows 10 while windows update  runs and geuess what  system has no lag  and windows update does not eat up all your CPU so quit spouting false things.   Also  the  fact  is since your gamer why would you not want to be on the  latest OS with all the latest  OS optimizations for gaming  Right out of the gate  DX12 improves existing  games  by  better utilizing  the  CPU and  properly  Threading out workloads.  oh  WT you wait a year to pay for windows 10 when it is  currently Freee and once you get it it is your forever    what thinking is this crap
 
 


Do you have any sources that show this to be the case?  I'd be interested to see some evidence (comparisons) that DX9, 10, or 11 games work better using a DX12 capable OS even though the game itself isn't coded to use DX12.




 
 
 
yes i have proof the fact my games are running better then they did  in windows 8.1  and  multitasking is much smoother on my system while i got a game on  . here is  a test done on the API   as DX12   reduces the CPU overhead  that  causes  CPU limted games to well be CPU limited    and effectivly  makes Draw calls much faster  less waiting between the CPU and GPU  and this can be seen now  .  of course games  and or applications   that are  direct programmed for DX12   can and will see even more performance  this  tho out of box  is really good      
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4dsiq-I7g
 
 
 


I was hoping you had some DX11 game benchmarks showing the difference running on Win10 vs Win7 or 8.1.  That's what I was asking for as proof to your claim above.
 
That 3DMark DX12 API overhead test was written (coded) to run on DX12 and DX11 where current games are not.  I don't imagine anyone not agreeing that DX12 will be great for gaming once new games are written to use it.
 
I played a few games I have running Win10 and those same games then on Win7.  I didn't see any performance difference.  I don't multitask while gaming so I can't comment on that aspect.  When I'm gaming, that's all I'm doing.  The only things running in the background are what's needed to run the OS and the game.
 
If you do come across any of those benchmark comparisons, it would be interesting to see them...



 
 
 
( Not my videos or Rig)  well here is a couple of test   gaming    2 project cars    video  first one is  Windows 7 vs windows 10   tho this video is from march  so a very very old build  of 10   it shows  a huge differant in performance good performance boost over windows 7   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuSoi7HAnkw       And if you notice  in both videos or least the first one you will also notice while  PC has more FPS  the  CPU usage is lower  then windows  7  
 
 
Now this one is  Windows 8.1 vs Windows 10  newer build   but also shows a performance leap on windows 10     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFe5OOHZko     
 

So anyways yea  this is just 1 game but still shows that by default windows 10 runs the same game at better performance  more FPS while  keeping CPU usage much lower    much more optimised   windows 10 is  because of Directx 12  despite the fact the game was and is a DX11.1 game   Mind you this guy is running  older version of windows 10 as this is from MAy  


Thanks for posting the links, but those performance differences shown in your video's is not what I was seeing using Nvidia GPU's.  I guess using AMD cards works better on Win10 in those scenario's.
 
But I have to be honest with you, even if you (I) could get a few more FPS or even 20 more, it's not incentive enough to make me want to use my Win7 license to have Win10.  I also don't have any issue's running my games on my current setup that I need more performance.  When games are coded to use DX12 I'll use a "purchased" copy on Win10 for gaming.  Maybe by then Win10 will be an OS that will make me want to retire my Win7 OS.  We'll see...

bdary
 

 
 
Miss informed   umm i game all the time right now on Windows 10 while windows update  runs and geuess what  system has no lag  and windows update does not eat up all your CPU so quit spouting false things.   Also  the  fact  is since your gamer why would you not want to be on the  latest OS with all the latest  OS optimizations for gaming  Right out of the gate  DX12 improves existing  games  by  better utilizing  the  CPU and  properly  Threading out workloads.  oh  WT you wait a year to pay for windows 10 when it is  currently Freee and once you get it it is your forever    what thinking is this crap
 
 


Do you have any sources that show this to be the case?  I'd be interested to see some evidence (comparisons) that DX9, 10, or 11 games work better using a DX12 capable OS even though the game itself isn't coded to use DX12.




 
 
 
yes i have proof the fact my games are running better then they did  in windows 8.1  and  multitasking is much smoother on my system while i got a game on  . here is  a test done on the API   as DX12   reduces the CPU overhead  that  causes  CPU limted games to well be CPU limited    and effectivly  makes Draw calls much faster  less waiting between the CPU and GPU  and this can be seen now  .  of course games  and or applications   that are  direct programmed for DX12   can and will see even more performance  this  tho out of box  is really good      
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4dsiq-I7g
 
 
 


I was hoping you had some DX11 game benchmarks showing the difference running on Win10 vs Win7 or 8.1.  That's what I was asking for as proof to your claim above.
 
That 3DMark DX12 API overhead test was written (coded) to run on DX12 and DX11 where current games are not.  I don't imagine anyone not agreeing that DX12 will be great for gaming once new games are written to use it.
 
I played a few games I have running Win10 and those same games then on Win7.  I didn't see any performance difference.  I don't multitask while gaming so I can't comment on that aspect.  When I'm gaming, that's all I'm doing.  The only things running in the background are what's needed to run the OS and the game.
 
If you do come across any of those benchmark comparisons, it would be interesting to see them...



 
 
 
( Not my videos or Rig)  well here is a couple of test   gaming    2 project cars    video  first one is  Windows 7 vs windows 10   tho this video is from march  so a very very old build  of 10   it shows  a huge differant in performance good performance boost over windows 7   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuSoi7HAnkw       And if you notice  in both videos or least the first one you will also notice while  PC has more FPS  the  CPU usage is lower  then windows  7  
 
 
Now this one is  Windows 8.1 vs Windows 10  newer build   but also shows a performance leap on windows 10     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFe5OOHZko     
 

So anyways yea  this is just 1 game but still shows that by default windows 10 runs the same game at better performance  more FPS while  keeping CPU usage much lower    much more optimised   windows 10 is  because of Directx 12  despite the fact the game was and is a DX11.1 game   Mind you this guy is running  older version of windows 10 as this is from MAy  


Thanks for posting the links, but those performance differences shown in your video's is not what I was seeing using Nvidia GPU's.  I guess using AMD cards works better on Win10 in those scenario's.
 
But I have to be honest with you, even if you (I) could get a few more FPS or even 20 more, it's not incentive enough to make me want to use my Win7 license to have Win10.  I also don't have any issue's running my games on my current setup that I need more performance.  When games are coded to use DX12 I'll use a "purchased" copy on Win10 for gaming.  Maybe by then Win10 will be an OS that will make me want to retire my Win7 OS.  We'll see...




 
 
oh i understand  yea maby he was using AMD GPus  but it shows tho and even shows on an older version of windows 10.  now  here is a video  of a guy taking us through DX12  and everything   the run down of what it is  even  showing CPU  side of DX12 or talking about it he is kinda annoying but  still good info .   also  have ya seen the  windows 10  Do  video  that Ms posted   10 reason to upgrade video 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1aWXjNNwzE
 

notuptome2004

bdary

notuptome2004

bdary

notuptome2004

wmmills

Exxxtacy
Wow seriously!...So, with the pro version windows 10 update will overwrite my Nvidia driver with the windows version in 8 months??. Figures... I have 3 copies of win 7 home premium. No free upgrades for me. Come on Microsoft!...give the people the option. I shouldn't need a 3rd party app. to disable auto driver updates.

Ya, and what makes it really suck rocks, beside a situation like yodaps, is that when windows update comes on it sucks all the cpu cycles down and takes over your net connection too, so everything crashes, locks etc... and if your gaming at the time it really drives you mad. I wouldn't do the upgrade anyway, just because 7 is too good to lose forever..... yes I know you can roll back for a certain amount of time yada,yada,yada etc..... and 10 is just not compelling enough, imo, for me to want it right from the start. I will probably wait about a year and maybe buy it then when their is a good base of games that utilize dx12, they put out a service pack or whatever they want to call it now and their are some apps out there to combat redmonds dim witted decisions they made.
 

 
 
Miss informed   umm i game all the time right now on Windows 10 while windows update  runs and geuess what  system has no lag  and windows update does not eat up all your CPU so quit spouting false things.   Also  the  fact  is since your gamer why would you not want to be on the  latest OS with all the latest  OS optimizations for gaming  Right out of the gate  DX12 improves existing  games  by  better utilizing  the  CPU and  properly  Threading out workloads.  oh  WT you wait a year to pay for windows 10 when it is  currently Freee and once you get it it is your forever    what thinking is this crap
 
 

Do you have any sources that show this to be the case?  I'd be interested to see some evidence (comparisons) that DX9, 10, or 11 games work better using a DX12 capable OS even though the game itself isn't coded to use DX12.

 
 
 
yes i have proof the fact my games are running better then they did  in windows 8.1  and  multitasking is much smoother on my system while i got a game on  . here is  a test done on the API   as DX12   reduces the CPU overhead  that  causes  CPU limted games to well be CPU limited    and effectivly  makes Draw calls much faster  less waiting between the CPU and GPU  and this can be seen now  .  of course games  and or applications   that are  direct programmed for DX12   can and will see even more performance  this  tho out of box  is really good      
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4dsiq-I7g
 
 
 

I was hoping you had some DX11 game benchmarks showing the difference running on Win10 vs Win7 or 8.1.  That's what I was asking for as proof to your claim above.
 
That 3DMark DX12 API overhead test was written (coded) to run on DX12 and DX11 where current games are not.  I don't imagine anyone not agreeing that DX12 will be great for gaming once new games are written to use it.
 
I played a few games I have running Win10 and those same games then on Win7.  I didn't see any performance difference.  I don't multitask while gaming so I can't comment on that aspect.  When I'm gaming, that's all I'm doing.  The only things running in the background are what's needed to run the OS and the game.
 
If you do come across any of those benchmark comparisons, it would be interesting to see them...

 
 
 
( Not my videos or Rig)  well here is a couple of test   gaming    2 project cars    video  first one is  Windows 7 vs windows 10   tho this video is from march  so a very very old build  of 10   it shows  a huge differant in performance good performance boost over windows 7   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuSoi7HAnkw       And if you notice  in both videos or least the first one you will also notice while  PC has more FPS  the  CPU usage is lower  then windows  7  
 
 
Now this one is  Windows 8.1 vs Windows 10  newer build   but also shows a performance leap on windows 10     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFe5OOHZko     
 
 
 
 
So anyways yea  this is just 1 game but still shows that by default windows 10 runs the same game at better performance  more FPS while  keeping CPU usage much lower    much more optimised   windows 10 is  because of Directx 12  despite the fact the game was and is a DX11.1 game   Mind you this guy is running  older version of windows 10 as this is from MAy  

Here you go  >>  http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/windows-8-1-vs-10-graphics-performance-review,1.html  Not the big performance jump you describe.  Actually, in most cases 8.1 & 10 are equal in FPS with Win10 barely more in others.

agent8
Hey guys, I was looking at all these different tools to disable the driver updates and everything else in Windows 10 and all of them still seem to have some issue. I think I found something that you can customize that won't force you to update anything and that just works and maybe some of you already even have it.
 
 
 
 
 

  Wow, what a great concept...