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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 07:45:09 (permalink)
I just pulled 37 new GPU....so I assume all I OK


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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 08:45:46 (permalink)
well gpu back up but now my cpu has no work



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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 08:53:42 (permalink)
Yea i'm getting gpu units to now
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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 09:21:49 (permalink)
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well gpu back up but now my cpu has no work


same here cpu's on setup2 is waiting for work
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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 09:58:03 (permalink)
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mine was working but just got the cant connect on a 783 



so I got a Server has already received unit on that 783 

 
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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 13:17:59 (permalink)
I'm having problems sending. Makes me wonder if I'm folding in vain with the problems they are having retrieving work.

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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 14:01:45 (permalink)
gpu's and cpu working normal for me now



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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 14:13:16 (permalink)
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I'm having problems sending. Makes me wonder if I'm folding in vain with the problems they are having retrieving work.


Don't say that too loud, a certain person will scold you for stating the obvious and make excuses, not to mention get sanctimonious. Let's not bring up the fact that he recently joined the team and then low and behold when he reached a million points all of sudden he is only producing one or two WU's every three hours now. Hmm.. wonder what happened? Oh yea, got his bucks now he's good. But it's all for the research and finding cures for diseases. I guess that's why I am still folding full blast and have put up over 14 million points since August when I first started folding because it's all about the "precious points", I believe he stated.
 
Anyway, if you are having problems start a new thread or PM me with the details, specifically a copy of the folding log for that particular gpu client and we will get it figured out.




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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 14:15:11 (permalink)
I seem to be getting a few every couple of hours. I think in the past 24 hours on 2x260s I have gotten about 1500 points...Great way to kick off the new folding year, or should I say crawl off.

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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 14:17:58 (permalink)
I'm getting them again. That was a long time. ~24 hours or more for me!

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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 14:20:34 (permalink)
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I seem to be getting a few every couple of hours. I think in the past 24 hours on 2x260s I have gotten about 1500 points...Great way to kick off the new folding year, or should I say crawl off.


If you still have gpu clients that are not working, stop them, open the folder the files are in, delete the work folder, queue.dat file and the unitinfo.txt file only. Then close the folder and restart the client. That should get you going again.




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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 14:44:50 (permalink)
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I'm having problems sending. Makes me wonder if I'm folding in vain with the problems they are having retrieving work.


Don't say that too loud, a certain person will scold you for stating the obvious and make excuses, not to mention get sanctimonious. Let's not bring up the fact that he recently joined the team and then low and behold when he reached a million points all of sudden he is only producing one or two WU's every three hours now. Hmm.. wonder what happened? Oh yea, got his bucks now he's good. But it's all for the research and finding cures for diseases. I guess that's why I am still folding full blast and have put up over 14 million points since August when I first started folding because it's all about the "precious points", I believe he stated.
 
Anyway, if you are having problems start a new thread or PM me with the details, specifically a copy of the folding log for that particular gpu client and we will get it figured out.


I'm still folding a long as much as I was when I joined the team.  All I have is a Q6600 and an 8800GT, but I do the best with what I have.  Lately, I have only been getting A1 work units which has decreased my PPD.  I also folded for AfterBurner for a while.  And I have also had the same server issues everyone else has, also dropping my work units.

I have Cystic Fibrosis, a disease that could potentially be cured by folding@home, so i am definitely folding for the science.  You probably will think I'm lying, but you can check my previous posts, I have mentioned it a couple times.  I spend much more money on medical treatments than I can on computers, unfortunately.

I've just gotten fed up with you complaining about how lazy the Pande group is and the likes every time there is a problem.  You have no idea how hard Vijay and the others work.  I am very thankful for what they do for science, and potentially my life, my sisters life, and my potential future childrens lives.
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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 15:25:58 (permalink)
No your not, I checked your stats, the server problems has only been since yesterday and your folding fell way off over a week ago when you reached a million points. And there is no way you were knocking down over 100,000 points a week with one Q6600 and one 8800GT.

I am saddened to hear of your condition and hope that you have all the support and quality medical care you need and deserve.

I never said they were lazy, I said that as long as they are getting what they want from us, they have no regard or consideration for all the time and resources we, the volunteers that they solicited to help them do there research, have put into making this program happen. I have been through enough of these fiascos and read enough of the subsequent posts on Stanford's website to know that if it is a problem that directly effects what is important to them regarding this program it is fixed toot sweet no matter what day or what time it is. When it is a problem that only directly affects us, the volunteers, and what is promised to us per their agreement, they take their sweet time getting it corrected. Remember, I believe in the end result and blindly donate my resources and time for the good cause, but they are the ones who stipulated what was to expected in return for volunteering our resources and they do not seem to take it very seriously.




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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 15:43:12 (permalink)
I just don't know what to say to that, all I have ever folding on is my Q6600 which is indeed at stock clocks, and my 8800GT (mild overclock).  Well, I folded on my old Pentium 4 machine for a month or so (hard drive failed), but that was only like 200 PPD.   You must have looked at the wrong profile, as I have never reached 60K in a week.

I was never near 100k PPW, the highest I ever reached was less than 60k PPW.  ~3,300(A2's) PPD on my Q6600 and 5-6K PPD on my 8800GT(353's) = max 9000 PPD.  9,000x7= 63,000 PPW.  Lines up with my stats perfectly, since I always get less than that due to gaming, and lower point work units.  My PPD drop is nothing but my CPU ppd getting more than halved due to no A2 units, playing games more often (I have no dedicated rigs), and less 353 work units.

I don't know what you mean about when the problems affect them they fix it fast and when it only affects us they don't.  Every problem affects them, they all, more some than others though, deeply care about the project.  Any issue affects the entirety of the project.  When the only issue is points accreditation, they fix it (quickly last time IIRC) even though it didn't harm the project at all.  This time, nvidia GPU folding was brought to a standstill, which affected the project greatly, and yet it took a while to fix. They take the project seriously.



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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 16:08:47 (permalink)
If I miss quoted your folding stats I apologize.

There are separate servers. There are the ones that actually collect the WU's that are completed and sent back by our computers which is the information they care about because the results are what they use for there research. The acknowledgement, ie the points system, that is given to the volunteers that donate time and resources is handled by a separate server. Now when that server that actually collects, stores and catalogs the results of all those WU's we do for them even hicups they are all over it. But, as evidenced by the most recent massive server crash, when the servers fail that acknowledge the contributions that people make to their program and research, the one they put into place to acknowledge donations, a work order is put in and they will get to it when they can. All beit they are not like union electricians and take a week, any electricians in present company excluded of course, they still did not have a sense of urgency to correct the problem. Perfect example, right before you started folding there was a huge failure for days, yes plural, days, that resulted in huge points losses for a lot of people, but Stanford did not lose one bit of the completed WU information for there research.

And just FYI, I do this because my wife is 49, we have six kids, 4 are still minors ages 6 to 16 and she was diagnosed with cancer in september of 2008 and had 10 surgeries in one year and I am the only source of income. So I am not just sitting around here spending all my money on computers because I have nothing else to do with my money or time. I guess you could say that when a situation like this occurs I get impatient because the perception is they do not have the same sense of urgency or emotional attachment that I do to ensuring the system is operating the way it is supposed to in order to achieve the goals that we have been told will result from our contributions.




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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 16:13:56 (permalink)
I understand that.  What irritates me is that you do not know what sense of urgency they had.  You can't judge their sense of urgency simply by blog and forum posts, they are not going to post every single thing they attempt to do to fix it if it didn't work.  You did not know what the problem was.  For all you know, it could have been something that they couldn't fix themselves.  It would bother me if Vijay said, "the problem is an ehternet cord that got severed, I don't feel like replacing it, so I will let someone else do it."  That's certainly not the case, Vijay, Adam, and the others all care about this project very much, as much or more so than we do ourselves.
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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 16:27:31 (permalink)
Well OK, as far as there sense of urgency I do know what it was because a notification and subsequent forum thread was posted on their web site by them, and there was not a lot of urgency in it. Of course I am not going to know what the problem is, nor will they initially, the point is they stated exactly what they did, Oh there is a problem, submit a work request and they will get to it tomorrow. End of story. Guarantee if it was a server that involved the actual research data, there would not have been any work request, there would have been a phone call made to who ever could fix it and it would have been fixed within hours at the most, not days. End of story. That is how it has worked in the past.




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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 16:37:24 (permalink)
GTX295, was working until last evening...


I have deleted the work folder and queue.dat; there was no unitinfo file, I had deleted it earlier.
Still, I have endless attempts to get work:

[00:35:21] Loaded queue successfully.
[00:35:21] Initialization complete
[00:35:21] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[00:35:21] + Attempting to get work packet
[00:35:21] - Connecting to assignment server
[00:35:22] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[00:35:22] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[00:35:22] - Attempt #1  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[00:35:31] + Attempting to get work packet
[00:35:31] - Connecting to assignment server
[00:35:32] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[00:35:32] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[00:35:32] - Attempt #2  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 16:54:52 (permalink)
I can certainly understand your frustration Horvat. Thnx for offering to help, but I think the sending problem is over now. I hope your wife's and Flipback's conditions change for the better soon, and perhaps benefit somehow from the folding project

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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 17:01:30 (permalink)
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Well OK, as far as there sense of urgency I do know what it was because a notification and subsequent forum thread was posted on their web site by them, and there was not a lot of urgency in it. Of course I am not going to know what the problem is, nor will they initially, the point is they stated exactly what they did, Oh there is a problem, submit a work request and they will get to it tomorrow. End of story. Guarantee if it was a server that involved the actual research data, there would not have been any work request, there would have been a phone call made to who ever could fix it and it would have been fixed within hours at the most, not days. End of story. That is how it has worked in the past.


It was a server problem that involved the actual research data.  It was not just a stats server, it was a server that sent and received work units, thus affecting the research as nvidia GPU client work was brought to a screeching halt.

Anyways man, sorry about implying earlier that you just do it for the the points, I never really thought that as nobody in their right mind would spend that much on hardware and electricity just for some numbers on a website.  From what I've seen in non problem related threads you're a pretty cool guy.  It just irritates me because I know how hard they work and care about the project and unfounded accusations about these hard working people who try to better humanity does not sit well with me.

Thanks for your contributions to the project.



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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 17:12:03 (permalink)
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GTX295, was working until last evening...


I have deleted the work folder and queue.dat; there was no unitinfo file, I had deleted it earlier.
Still, I have endless attempts to get work:

[00:35:21] Loaded queue successfully.
[00:35:21] Initialization complete
[00:35:21] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[00:35:21] + Attempting to get work packet
[00:35:21] - Connecting to assignment server
[00:35:22] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[00:35:22] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[00:35:22] - Attempt #1  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[00:35:31] + Attempting to get work packet
[00:35:31] - Connecting to assignment server
[00:35:32] + No appropriate work server was available; will try again in a bit.
[00:35:32] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[00:35:32] - Attempt #2  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.


Just for GP, check your internet connection, turn your router off for a few seconds and then turn it back on. You should still at least be connecting to the assignment server. One other potential scenario is that there were so many WU's hanging out there that the servers are maxed out right now trying to collect and reassign them all. Or there down again which would not surprise me.




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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 17:13:20 (permalink)
ILikeBeans

I can certainly understand your frustration Horvat. Thnx for offering to help, but I think the sending problem is over now. I hope your wife's and Flipback's conditions change for the better soon, and perhaps benefit somehow from the folding project


Thanks for the sentiment Beans.




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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 17:28:15 (permalink)
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Well OK, as far as there sense of urgency I do know what it was because a notification and subsequent forum thread was posted on their web site by them, and there was not a lot of urgency in it. Of course I am not going to know what the problem is, nor will they initially, the point is they stated exactly what they did, Oh there is a problem, submit a work request and they will get to it tomorrow. End of story. Guarantee if it was a server that involved the actual research data, there would not have been any work request, there would have been a phone call made to who ever could fix it and it would have been fixed within hours at the most, not days. End of story. That is how it has worked in the past.


It was a server problem that involved the actual research data.  It was not just a stats server, it was a server that sent and received work units, thus affecting the research as nvidia GPU client work was brought to a screeching halt.

Anyways man, sorry about implying earlier that you just do it for the the points, I never really thought that as nobody in their right mind would spend that much on hardware and electricity just for some numbers on a website.  From what I've seen in non problem related threads you're a pretty cool guy.  It just irritates me because I know how hard they work and care about the project and unfounded accusations about these hard working people who try to better humanity does not sit well with me.

Thanks for your contributions to the project.


I am going to leave it at this. I read the final outcome and looked at and interpreted the server report pages for that time period. Those servers were accepting WU's just fine, you were able to complete and transmit the ones you had with no problem just like everybody else. However, no acknowledgement, ie points, or new WU's were being sent out and lost. See they did not lose anything as far as the research data. We were kept hanging until someone showed up the next day. I am sure they care about the project, but as evidenced by actions, which speak louder than words, which precludes them from being unfounded accusations, they got theirs right away and everyone else had to wait till the next day.




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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/15 19:27:33 (permalink)
Thank goodness thats where the problem was.  Just got our machines updated from 7RC to the release version.  I looked at my points yesterday and knew something wasn't right but after getting the wife's machine all set up the way she wanted I really didn't care much more.
Should have looked here for confirmation FAH had a problem but I wanted to get all three machines imaged today (Acronis).  Kind of a shame- I was wanting to get to 2 mil by the end of the week. 


 
 
 
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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/16 17:22:46 (permalink)
Umm, are the gpu servers down again it's been about 20 minutes and no work?



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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/16 17:24:55 (permalink)
Yeah, I'm not getting any WU's and having big trouble sending finished jobs... Stanford people are shooting themselves in the leg...

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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/16 17:37:21 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'm not getting any WU's and having big trouble sending finished jobs... Stanford people are shooting themselves in the leg...


Looks like everyone at stanford went home to go watch LOST, I'm shutting my rig down, my guess is they won't be back up till tomorrow.

EDIT: False alarm, finally got a wu, I guess their network is just bogged down.
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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/16 17:52:10 (permalink)
Yup, my GPU's just got busy

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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/16 18:14:51 (permalink)
I have noticed my self that the 783, 445 and 440 WU's are very slow to transmit and receive new work. Be patient, they still have problems and have a bandaid on a bullet wound over at Stanford. At least they are working at some level.




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Re:No GPU work to do? 2010/02/16 20:35:48 (permalink)
One of my clients yesterday had problems sending work, all I did was restart it and it was fine. the GPU's units are working good for me at the moment.

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