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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/29 16:49:49
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all I can say it happens every time supply and demand low supply and high demand . the only way anything stops if people actually got smart and didn't rush to buy on impulse.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/29 16:55:29
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I doubt Evga could do anything about that. Get the good price at the Evga store.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/29 17:33:38
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If people didn't buy them these people would stop doing it but chances of that happening is slim but this is how all cards are when they first release. I know im going have trouble getting my hands on 1070 asus strix but i can hold off not playing anything on pc at the moment won't be for a good bit.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/29 20:22:33
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They aren't getting bad reviews because of the scalpers, they are getting bad reviews because the people posting reviews are clueless idiots. Reviews on the product page are FOR THE PRODUCT. Not the sellers. Sellers have their own separate ratings.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/29 21:48:49
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This happens every time a new series comes out, and EVGA have no control over it whatsoever. Invariably these price-gouging a-hats will have no stock either, and will just claim 'shipping delays' until they can pick some up through retailers at standard pricing, then send them out and laugh all the way to the bank. Anyone stupid enough to buy them at these inflated prices is only exacerbating the problem.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 02:24:59
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it does happen every time why I am waiting a little bit before buying till new wears off I could care less if I have it 1st or not!
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 12:55:37
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evilmustang66 all I can say it happens every time supply and demand low supply and high demand . the only way anything stops if people actually got smart and didn't rush to buy on impulse.
Bingo!
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
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evilmustang66 all I can say it happens every time supply and demand low supply and high demand . the only way anything stops if people actually got smart and didn't rush to buy on impulse.
Bingo!
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 13:03:33
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 15:23:35
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Seems like an artificial way of slowing down sales for the scalpers. People have come to instinctively feel certain things when they see the 5 star rating system, and if they see that low rating, along with a higher price, they might just skip buying anything altogether. Although I can't say I agree with this particular form of protest, it is probably having the effect that they desire, which is hurting sales for the scalpers. Unfortunately it also hurts the overall reputation of the product.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 18:33:36
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This is why you do not buy a new video card at the beginning. wait at least 6 months.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 18:35:27
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I had a feeling this was going to happen, so I decided to wait for cards to sell at MSRP/normal price range before buying.. I'm pretty sure a month or so from they'll be readily available.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 19:08:14
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stalinx20 This is why you do not buy a new video card at the beginning. wait at least 6 months.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 19:09:53
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stalinx20 This is why you do not buy a new video card at the beginning. wait at least 6 months.
In 6 months you'll be able to get a great deal on a used one from someone upgrading to the next generation card... probably
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 19:36:10
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Sythrix Seems like an artificial way of slowing down sales for the scalpers. People have come to instinctively feel certain things when they see the 5 star rating system, and if they see that low rating, along with a higher price, they might just skip buying anything altogether. Although I can't say I agree with this particular form of protest, it is probably having the effect that they desire, which is hurting sales for the scalpers. Unfortunately it also hurts the overall reputation of the product.
Considering they are sold out everywhere, it isn't hurting regular sales. I think the price hurts the scalpers sales over the reviews. After all, just about every one of them is complaints about the price and is tagged by EVGA.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 21:13:08
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I think its largely Nvidias fault. First, I think some people still think that the "Founder Edition" is somehow better. Also I think Nvidia pushed to get the first batch out ASAP before AMD release their new technology, FE are probably pre-production samples.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 23:47:04
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Anyone paying 750 Euro for a FE is just not right in their head ;) ... i splashed 645 Euro on the ACx 3.0 while all other cards are at 720 Euro FE´s and asus .. while MSI is rocking 800 Euro´s for their gamers edition... the place i ordered my card (komplett.se) actually had to take the product of their webpage since it was getting to much traffic and orders... basicly they have sold over 200 cards since release
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/30 23:56:30
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This type of 'price gouging' happens every year upon release of new video cards. The simple solution is simply not to buy from these kinds of vendors.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/31 00:25:22
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nikoliy I think its largely Nvidias fault. First, I think some people still think that the "Founder Edition" is somehow better. Also I think Nvidia pushed to get the first batch out ASAP before AMD release their new technology, FE are probably pre-production samples.
Blame them all you want, but it's just like a black Friday sale. Only it's not a 'black friday' sale, it's the fact people are in so high demand to actually cough the money for a brand new card. YOu want it badly enough? Ok, here you go. Pay for it. Honestly I blame the customers mostly, not Nvidia. Congrats, though, you got yourself a "founder's edition" card. lol
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/05/31 15:33:31
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nikoliy I think its largely Nvidias fault. First, I think some people still think that the "Founder Edition" is somehow better. Also I think Nvidia pushed to get the first batch out ASAP before AMD release their new technology, FE are probably pre-production samples.
Blame them all you want, but it's just like a black Friday sale. Only it's not a 'black friday' sale, it's the fact people are in so high demand to actually cough the money for a brand new card. YOu want it badly enough? Ok, here you go. Pay for it. Honestly I blame the customers mostly, not Nvidia. Congrats, though, you got yourself a "founder's edition" card. lol
Screw that, I ordered the GTX 1080 SC for 50 bucks less. If Nvidia waited till they had a full production going the scalping wouldn't be so obvious..
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/06/01 07:53:01
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You can't "price gouge" luxury items. Price gouging is a concept that strictly applies to basic necessities such as food/water.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/06/01 08:00:48
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stalinx20 This is why you do not buy a new video card at the beginning. wait at least 6 months.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/06/01 08:06:53
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jcH09 You can't "price gouge" luxury items. Price gouging is a concept that strictly applies to basic necessities such as food/water.
Yes you can. " Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to when a seller spikes the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair, and is considered exploitative, potentially to an unethical extent."
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
2016/06/01 08:33:01
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willem445 Yes you can. "Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to when a seller spikes the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair, and is considered exploitative, potentially to an unethical extent."
No, you can't. "The term is similar to profiteering but can be distinguished by being short-term and localized, and by a restriction to essentials such as food, clothing, shelter, medicine and equipment needed to preserve life, limb and property." It's amusing how you didn't even bother to read the article that you decided to quote.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
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I was lucky enough to pick mine up on amazon by the tried and true refresh method and around 1pm on the 27th I had one pop up at 699 so I jumped on it, only reason I use amazon is because of the financing options I've used them for any major purchase with no problems. As stated before people need to be smarter about reviewing the sellers over reviewing the actual product
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
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willem445 Yes you can. "Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to when a seller spikes the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair, and is considered exploitative, potentially to an unethical extent."
No, you can't. "The term is similar to profiteering but can be distinguished by being short-term and localized, and by a restriction to essentials such as food, clothing, shelter, medicine and equipment needed to preserve life, limb and property." It's amusing how you didn't even bother to read the article that you decided to quote.
Apparently the term is very loosely defined. Noun 1. price gouging - pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available http://www.thefreedictionary.com/price+gouging The practice of raising prices on certain types of goods and services to an unfair level, especially during a state of emergency. http://legaldictionary.net/price-gouging/ The act of retailers increasing prices when no alternative is available. For instance, many spectators believe that oil retailers participate in price gouging. http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/price-gouging.html Price gouging is loosely defined as charging a price that is higher than normal or fair, usually in times of natural disaster or other crisis. http://economics.about.com/od/changes-in-equilibrium/ss/The-Economics-Of-Price-Gouging.htm#step1 You can price gouge anything in the sense that you are selling something for an unfair price due to demand increases and unavailability. It is more strongly defined during states of emergency although, legally at least I believe. That being said, I believe the GTX 1080 is essential to life and thus, regardless of definition, this is price gouging.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
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willem445 I believe the GTX 1080 is essential to life
Quoted for truth. Never thought I would spend this much on a GPU, but with my tax returns and holiday bonus from work fresh in the bank, I could not postpone my upgrade any longer.
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Re: New cards are getting bad reviews because of scalpers
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willem445 I believe the GTX 1080 is essential to life
Almost blew the food I was eating out my nose, cheers
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