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Hello all
My first time on the forum, but have bought many EVGA cards in my past (5 in the past 3 years - not including these) and love them, never had any problems with any of them :-)
Just getting ready to set up a new system when this new Titan X card is now an option.
I am/was planning on using 3way SLI with 3 GTX 970's model# 04G-P4-3975-KR - the ones with the 3 display ports per card.
My goal is to run 3 new ACER 4K monitors with built in GSYNC in tandem as high resolution as possible with FPS rate as close to 60 as possible for games such as BF4, some flight simulators, etc.
I'm about to put all this on a new MSI X99S Gaming 9 ACK motherboard (LGA 2011 v3) with a new Intel I7-5960x CPU and 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 RAM into my exiting Corsair Case with Corsair Liquid Cooling, vs get a new case and new cooling keeping the old set up and make a server out of it, but anyway
My Question is:
Would my chances to get the best graphics be better with this exiting set up, or would running high end game graphics on my 4K monitors be better handled by this new Titan X card. I would figure will probably need at least 2 of them. Again I am planning on running three 4K GSYNC Monitors at the same time with these games.
thanks for responses.
Jobuu
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/18 16:06:35
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I wouldnt run 3 970s for higher resolution. First it's only 3.5 not 4 gb ddr5. Also the third card would only be contributing 50% of its potential. You would certainly be wiser to choice 2 980s or 2 titan xs (if you can afford it) over 3 970s for 4k gaming.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/18 16:06:35
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I wouldnt run 3 970s for higher resolution. First it's only 3.5 not 4 gb ddr5. Also the third card would only be contributing 50% of its potential. You would certainly be wiser to choice 2 980s or 2 titan xs (if you can afford it) over 3 970s for 4k gaming.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/18 16:07:50
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Jobuu
Hello all
My first time on the forum, but have bought many EVGA cards in my past (5 in the past 3 years - not including these) and love them, never had any problems with any of them :-)
Just getting ready to set up a new system when this new Titan X card is now an option.
I am/was planning on using 3way SLI with 3 GTX 970's model# 04G-P4-3975-KR - the ones with the 3 display ports per card.
My goal is to run 3 new ACER 4K monitors with built in GSYNC in tandem as high resolution as possible with FPS rate as close to 60 as possible for games such as BF4, some flight simulators, etc.
I'm about to put all this on a new MSI X99S Gaming 9 ACK motherboard (LGA 2011 v3) with a new Intel I7-5960x CPU and 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 RAM into my exiting Corsair Case with Corsair Liquid Cooling, vs get a new case and new cooling keeping the old set up and make a server out of it, but anyway
My Question is:
Would my chances to get the best graphics be better with this exiting set up, or would running high end game graphics on my 4K monitors be better handled by this new Titan X card. I would figure will probably need at least 2 of them. Again I am planning on running three 4K GSYNC Monitors at the same time with these games.
thanks for responses.
Jobuu
Between the two, two TITAN X would be better for what you're planning. The 4GB of the 970 and it's weaker rendering power would be your limiting factors particularly regarding minimum frame rates. Dual SLI scaling is significantly better than 3-way scaling and there are less issues.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/18 16:23:31
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Right now, the Titan X would be better for UHD gaming because of the VRAM. But when DX12 comes out, and if the rumors of VRAM pooling is correct, I would take 2 970s if you want to save money (or 3 for about the same money). 2 970s should be faster (256 more CUDA cores and higher core clocks) than a single Titan X if the game has good SLI scaling. I haven't tried TRI-SLI yet (might with my 970s later, 2 is overkill for 1440p right now), but even if TRI-SLI scaling isn't the best, it has 1920 more (over 60% more) CUDA cores than a Titan X and can clock higher. But it is always nice having a single super powerful GPU.
So as right now, I would say Titan X if you have the money, but TRI-SLI 970s would also be super powerful and hopefully have their 12GBs of VRAM pool with DX12.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/18 18:44:43
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Definitely take the 970s off the board. I tried SLI 970s for 4k and it simply didn't work out well. There was this stuttering/hitching problem that would occur in games with VRAM usage exceeding 3.5gb even though fps would still be 60+. I stepped up to 2x980s and couldn't be happier. Well I guess I could be because I sure wish they had more than 4gb. My preference is 60fps and as close to max visual settings as I can get. Luckily at 4k you can completely disable AA since at that point it's very difficult to notice the difference. Even with AA off there are plenty of newer titles in my game library that cap VRAM on my cards. Knowing how well my 980s run 4k, if someone were to offer me 2 more monitors for stereo surround I would question the ability for my cards to do it without seriously sacrificing settings and fps. Now you might be happy with medium settings or 30fps but if you aren't then be prepared to spend.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/18 18:58:50
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Yeah, right now for UHD, Titan X would be better because of the extra VRAM. But hopefully the DX12 rumors are true about the VRAM pooling and then the 970s would be more powerful. I probably won't be going to UHD until DX12 comes out for that reason and because I have a 1440p IPS monitor at 120Hz and don't want to give up the 120Hz. So yeah, if you have an UHD monitor already, go ahead and get the Titan X.
Edit: Just read that you want to do 3 UHD monitors. So 3 970s won't be enough power for all 3 of them. A single Titan X won't be enough either, and I doubt 2 Titan Xs could either (at good framerates). You most likely would need 3 Titan Xs to power 3 UHD monitors, but 2 at the very least.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/18 20:06:59
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Titan X SLI would perform far, far better with 4K monitors than 970 3-way.
But am I reading this right? You want to run 3x 4K monitors in surround for a total of 12K resolution?
If so, you better stack 4x Titan X's in there and hope for the best. That is one truly massive resolution. I would contact the user Baasha either here or on Overclock.net as I think he runs a 4K surround setup.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/18 20:07:40
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That's a pointless question because GTX 970 in SLI has issues and is hell on earth(cooling, reliability and stability issues). You mention you have never had an issue with EVGA and to keep that the way it is, buy the TITAN X. It would cost a little more, however, like I said before the GTX 970 is a hastle. Also, you would save electricity and not need to worry about cooling the 3way SLI which would be an oven. Also, the 970 has known issues while in 4k. Overall, buy the TITAN X to save yourself the hastle.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/18 21:07:22
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Thanks all for the replies. Looks like I need to dump the 970's for now and go with the new and baddest Titan X - at least 2 of them, maybe 3 of them.
Now, I see there are 3 different types listed here on the EVGA site. Which one is going to be better at what want to do with them?
and any expected release dates for them here? I did see you can pre-order direct from NVIDIA but I want to wait to get the EVGA versions.
there goes the credit card limits
thanks again
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/31 02:45:32
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Iv done it. 12k ( 3x4k monitors). My two Evga 780 ti sc acx cards smoked it. Intense games the two side screens where the ones to take the toll. I think that may have just been the programming as most games have issues. Iv just sold both my cards to purchase me a titan x because with the pair I required one more display port. Any questions fire my way. I hope I can help Or any further information on this matter :)
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/31 02:49:07
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Jobuu
Thanks all for the replies. Looks like I need to dump the 970's for now and go with the new and baddest Titan X - at least 2 of them, maybe 3 of them.
Now, I see there are 3 different types listed here on the EVGA site. Which one is going to be better at what want to do with them?
and any expected release dates for them here? I did see you can pre-order direct from NVIDIA but I want to wait to get the EVGA versions.
there goes the credit card limits
thanks again
Jobuu
The 3 types if I remembed correctly are base clock super clocked and water cooled. I'd be going with the super clocked variant. I always have and found no issues. (I'm not much of an overclocker) but the water blocks I find you can get better performance if you attach your own. Although, rumors have it the cooling on the beast is pretty good. Hope this helps mate
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/31 05:19:28
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Yeah, right now for UHD, Titan X would be better because of the extra VRAM. But hopefully the DX12 rumors are true about the VRAM pooling and then the 970s would be more powerful. I probably won't be going to UHD until DX12 comes out for that reason and because I have a 1440p IPS monitor at 120Hz and don't want to give up the 120Hz. So yeah, if you have an UHD monitor already, go ahead and get the Titan X.
Edit: Just read that you want to do 3 UHD monitors. So 3 970s won't be enough power for all 3 of them. A single Titan X won't be enough either, and I doubt 2 Titan Xs could either (at good framerates). You most likely would need 3 Titan Xs to power 3 UHD monitors, but 2 at the very least.
The thing with VRAM pooling is..it has to be supported and developed within the game itself. Heck games still only utilize 2-cores. I don't see VRAM pooling happening anytime soon even if its enabled in DX12.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/31 07:23:42
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/31 08:06:03
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I wouldnt run 3 970s for higher resolution. First it's only 3.5 not 4 gb ddr5. Also the third card would only be contributing 50% of its potential. You would certainly be wiser to choice 2 980s or 2 titan xs (if you can afford it) over 3 970s for 4k gaming.
/sigh Wrong. The card HAS 4GB of VRAM.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/31 08:27:00
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I wouldnt run 3 970s for higher resolution. First it's only 3.5 not 4 gb ddr5. Also the third card would only be contributing 50% of its potential. You would certainly be wiser to choice 2 980s or 2 titan xs (if you can afford it) over 3 970s for 4k gaming.
/sigh
Wrong. The card HAS 4GB of VRAM.
Try and push it past 3.5gb of vram at 4k and tell me how your experience goes.
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/03/31 10:13:16
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Exactly, 970 have Vram "issues" heheh
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/05/07 05:07:42
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I agree go with. 2x titan or 980s...I have 2x 970 and it does great on 4k but only on one monitor. Running 3 4k would be out of question
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/05/07 05:09:43
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I wouldnt run 3 970s for higher resolution. First it's only 3.5 not 4 gb ddr5. Also the third card would only be contributing 50% of its potential. You would certainly be wiser to choice 2 980s or 2 titan xs (if you can afford it) over 3 970s for 4k gaming.
/sigh
Wrong. The card HAS 4GB of VRAM.
Um it does have 4 but it's split 3.5/.5 and the .5 is way slower...you really have to do alot to push it there but as soon as you do performance dips. Still great cards though
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Re: New Titan X (s) vs 970s 3 way SLI
2015/05/09 07:41:24
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