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2016/09/22 13:38:36 (permalink)
I thought I'd come here to ask some dumb questions before I swap GPUs.
This weekend I'm replacing my 3 yr old EVGA GTX660sc with an EVGA GTX 1060sc. (the 660 was 'artifacting' after about an hour of game play).
I went to Nvidia's driver page and I noticed that the same driver works with both the 660 and the 1060 -- Does the fact that they are both made by the same company (EVGA) mean that the installed driver will work for the new GPU when I boot up? Seems too easy, heheh.
Should I un-install PrecisionX or GForce Experience before I install the new GPU? -- if not, will they recognize the new GPU?
My MOBO's bios hasn't changed since I installed it, does this mean it will recognize the new GPU? This worries me the most because I REALLY don't want to 'flash' my Bios.
I noticed that Gigabyte installed a program called @BIOS on my 'puter which apparently makes the process easier but...does anyone have any experience with @BIOS ?
Is there anything I should do ahead of time to make the process painless?

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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/22 13:51:20 (permalink)
You would definitely update the BIOS.  It isn't difficult, but I haven't used the @BIOS in particular.  Not having the latest BIOS can lead to issues with the newer technology.
 
You should still uninstall the drivers and remove the card then do an install.  You can follow the guidelines here in section #2.
 
EDIT:  You'll be fine.  Anymore everything does it for your or specifically tells you what to do.
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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/22 17:09:25 (permalink)
I have the Z77X-UP4 TH mobo and it's Bios version is F9... I was going to update my Bios but when I found it on the Gigabyte website it's the same version, dated from 2012.
Soooo...I'm assuming it's not necessary to update...correct??
I haven't made any changes to the Bios since I built this computer (June 2013) so all the setting should be on default, but if the GPU isn't recognized could I just clear the CMOS?
 
Also, I'm assuming that once I un-install the graphics driver, that Windows will detect that I have no driver and start installing the driver from Windows Update. 
A few months ago, I couldn't update the driver manually because of this "helpful" windows feature (which also kicked in even in Safe Mode).
I ended up installing GForce Exp. which updated the driver on it's own.

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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/22 18:36:28 (permalink)
I personally strongly dislike GFE, but that is personal preference if you want to have it.
 
When you use DDU as per the instructions I linked to earlier, it will disable auto driver installation through Windows unless you tell it not to.  You will see the option on the right side of DDU after it reboots into safe mode.  I never let the system do it itself.  To install the latest drivers, you need to be on Windows build 1511 or the Anniversary Update.  Just be sure you are up to date in that sense.
 
As far as the BIOS, if you have the latest, you have the latest.  If you have any issues, you can try to clear CMOS, yes.

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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/22 19:54:09 (permalink)
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...it will disable auto driver installation through Windows unless you tell it not to.

You know, back when this was happening, I found instructions on how to disable the auto driver "feature" - but it didn't work - I tried 2 or 3 times - rebooted - didn't reboot - every combination - nothing worked - then I heard about GFE a couple weeks ago - worked for me.
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To install the latest drivers, you need to be on Windows build 1511 or the Anniversary Update.

I googled Windows build 1511 - I'm afraid I'm still on Windows 7, so.
Thanks for info.
 

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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/22 20:42:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby hiattg1 2016/09/25 06:07:09
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...it will disable auto driver installation through Windows unless you tell it not to.

You know, back when this was happening, I found instructions on how to disable the auto driver "feature" - but it didn't work - I tried 2 or 3 times - rebooted - didn't reboot - every combination - nothing worked - then I heard about GFE a couple weeks ago - worked for me.
CoercionShaman
To install the latest drivers, you need to be on Windows build 1511 or the Anniversary Update.

I googled Windows build 1511 - I'm afraid I'm still on Windows 7, so.
Thanks for info.
 


NVidia has been using a unified driver architecture for years, you could in theory, turn off your computer and install the new card and restart. Driver would update to reflect the new card and it's features. I would not do it that way. At the very least, uninstall the current driver and immediately turn off the system, install the new card and reinstall drivers.
 
To be more thorough, use of driver fusion or DDU prior to installing new card would be the way to go.


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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/22 20:46:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby hiattg1 2016/09/25 06:07:25
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...it will disable auto driver installation through Windows unless you tell it not to.

You know, back when this was happening, I found instructions on how to disable the auto driver "feature" - but it didn't work - I tried 2 or 3 times - rebooted - didn't reboot - every combination - nothing worked - then I heard about GFE a couple weeks ago - worked for me.
CoercionShaman
To install the latest drivers, you need to be on Windows build 1511 or the Anniversary Update.

I googled Windows build 1511 - I'm afraid I'm still on Windows 7, so.
Thanks for info.
 


NVidia has been using a unified driver architecture for years, you could in theory, turn off your computer and install the new card and restart. Driver would update to reflect the new card and it's features. I would not do it that way. At the very least, uninstall the current driver and immediately turn off the system, install the new card and reinstall drivers.
 
To be more thorough, use of driver fusion or DDU prior to installing new card would be the way to go.


Not anymore. Windows 10 is a separate driver and different WDDM driver model. But, you're right in that Windows will automatically  detect the new GPU as long as he's using a driver recent enough to support the GPU.

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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/22 21:10:35 (permalink)
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...it will disable auto driver installation through Windows unless you tell it not to.

You know, back when this was happening, I found instructions on how to disable the auto driver "feature" - but it didn't work - I tried 2 or 3 times - rebooted - didn't reboot - every combination - nothing worked - then I heard about GFE a couple weeks ago - worked for me.
CoercionShaman
To install the latest drivers, you need to be on Windows build 1511 or the Anniversary Update.

I googled Windows build 1511 - I'm afraid I'm still on Windows 7, so.
Thanks for info.
 


NVidia has been using a unified driver architecture for years, you could in theory, turn off your computer and install the new card and restart. Driver would update to reflect the new card and it's features. I would not do it that way. At the very least, uninstall the current driver and immediately turn off the system, install the new card and reinstall drivers.
 
To be more thorough, use of driver fusion or DDU prior to installing new card would be the way to go.


Not anymore. Windows 10 is a separate driver and different WDDM driver model. But, you're right in that Windows will automatically  detect the new GPU as long as he's using a driver recent enough to support the GPU.




true however, he did say he was on Windows 7....


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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/22 21:31:35 (permalink)
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...you could in theory, turn off your computer and install the new card and restart. Driver would update to reflect the new card and it's features. I would not do it that way.

Sorry to be such a pest but, what are the downsides to this method?
If you're saying Windows will install an older driver, well, I'm used to this but now I can update with GFE without Windows butting in.
Also, since I haven't reinstalled Windows for 3 years it wouldn't be the end of the world if I ended up having to do a clean install (although my 'Reliability History' hovers around 100%).
 

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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/23 03:15:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby hiattg1 2016/09/24 16:14:11
You just might not get the absolute latest driver and it installs 3D and everything you may not need. If you are on W7 you don't have to worry about a build issue anyway. If you are keeping GFE it will pull the right one. If you want to do it manually, just use the guide I linked in the first post.

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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/24 17:01:57 (permalink)
Thank you all for your help - the installation was 99% painless; the only hiccup was while I was in Safe Mode, my wireless mouse didn't respond so I had to dig up my ancient MS mouse.
The 1060's fan doesn't even spin until I hit 40c.
The hottest the card has gotten has been 57c at 100% load so that's nice.
So far so good...thanks again.
 

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Re: Nervous about replacing GTX 660 2016/09/24 18:14:41 (permalink)
Now it's time to enjoy your card!

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