Caronte2305
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Evening people,
I'd like some advise from you about getting a GPU 970. You see, my current Pc is rather old:
MB Asus M4N78 PRO
CPU AMD Phenom 2 X2 550 3.10 GHZ
MEM 2GB DDR2 Corsair Dominator
I know, it ain't a top notch rig for these days, and I'm not even sure if it ever was, but it has
got its job well done so far, and it was even better with old GPU, an EVGA GTX 460, wich got "broken"
(it actually stopped working with windows, but not so with Xubuntu, but i might get to this point latter)
some weeks ago. As you may have guessed, so far, I want to get a new GPU before getting the rest of
my PC up to date (I've thinking of an ASUS Z97 PRO), but, of course, a GPU that may already suit a newer pc.
The question is: is it worth it getting a GPU 970 and plug it to my current MB??
I'm sure I might not be able to get the best of it, but i just want to get a new GPU and use until I upgrade the rest of my pc.
Thanks in advance
P.S. Hope you don't mind my english, it isn't my native tongue.
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Tropickz
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Re: Need some advise: new GPU, old rig
2014/12/16 21:51:57
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My advice.. don't even think about using a 900 series GPU in that system especially if you gonna play games. Wouldn't even come close performance wise.
Better off getting something for now (500/600 series) and saving for a new cpu/mobo for the 970.
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Re: Need some advise: new GPU, old rig
2014/12/17 00:18:29
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there is no point updating the GPU with this rig. Z97 mobo + i5 4670K + 8GB DDR3 ram and you are ready for a GTX 970. 
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lehpron
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Re: Need some advise: new GPU, old rig
2014/12/17 02:24:51
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These newer graphics cards since the GTX600's had changed something such that older boards don't work properly even if the hardware wouldn't hold it back. So there is a chance your motherboard will give you a hard time during installation of drivers. Based on that, you might as well save up for a brand new build. But if you're still set up a graphics card upgrade, consider these: - Which types of games do you play (genre, not titles)? If you play CPU-bound (multiplayer, RTS, etc), then focus on upgrading the CPU, a faster GPU won't do much. If you play GPU-bound titles (anything single-player with a single graphics card), then a better GPU has a point.
- Since the CPU runs your games and tells the graphics card what to draw, you can't just get a more power graphics card with an older CPU, you'll force what were GPU-bound games to become CPU-bound because you're giving the CPU more work to do. It doesn't help that you didn't have the best processor at the time; at that point, your display's resolution will play a role and a higher resolution will keep your GPU-bound games focused on the graphics card.
If you get "overkill" graphics for your CPU, you bottleneck the CPU; meaning the actual performance will be shallow compared to expected, because like I said, CPU tells graphics what to draw. The new GPU will be a waste until you upgrade the whole system; you'll see some improvement, but not as much as a newer CPU. Considering the potential issue with the motherboard's age, I suggest you just save up for a new system, that Z97 setup you wanted. Next spring Broadwell unlocked desktop parts will come, so for now look at a cheap Haswell dual-core like the Pentium G3258.
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CiroConsentino
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Re: Need some advise: new GPU, old rig
2014/12/17 05:31:57
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I GTX 570 or GTX 660 would work ok. A better vidcard would just be chocked by the CPU.
My brother have a Phenom X3 2.3 GHz with 4GB RAM and installed my old EVGA GTX 570HD 2.5GB on it. Games are running at lot better compared to his jurassic 9800GT.
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rshwayder
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Re: Need some advise: new GPU, old rig
2014/12/17 08:02:54
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I had an i5-2500k (z68 motherboard) running at 4.4GHz and it still bottlenecked my 970 FTW sometimes. Now I have an i7-4790k (z97 motherboard) and it runs better.
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Re: Need some advise: new GPU, old rig
2014/12/17 15:04:39
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rshwayder
I had an i5-2500k (z68 motherboard) running at 4.4GHz and it still bottlenecked my 970 FTW sometimes. Now I have an i7-4790k (z97 motherboard) and it runs better.
In what games?
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rshwayder
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Re: Need some advise: new GPU, old rig
2014/12/17 16:59:37
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WoW, a couple other games with lots of other players around. Don't remember which ones off the top of my head (I think BF4 gained ~20 FPS with my CPU upgrade too).
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Re: Need some advise: new GPU, old rig
2014/12/17 17:11:33
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rshwayder
I had an i5-2500k (z68 motherboard) running at 4.4GHz and it still bottlenecked my 970 FTW sometimes. Now I have an i7-4790k (z97 motherboard) and it runs better.
It was very doubtfully the cpu's fault, it was most likely the crappy coding and most games, like wow, only taking advantage of one or two cores. Plus in MMO type scenarios with large numbers of other toons you have to account for your isp connection throughput, the servers connection and everyone else whos on with you. A i5 2500k at 4.4 or above in a non sli, 1080p, non multimonitor setup should do just fine with any gpu out currently. I have that setup for the most part and cant say ive ever ran into that issue, even with Rift, but I would run at 4.8ghz for games like that.
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Re: Need some advise: new GPU, old rig
2014/12/17 17:20:42
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Something was off on your end, I had the most miniscule difference with the same setup, the only time I lost frames was engaging shadow record, about 10fps for a split second..
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