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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 05:21:27
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Ok Sounds good. I think I am set with that. I will order the FTW today. I will also get the EVGA 570 too.
So how does the setup sound? Will it run games like Witcher 2 and Shogun 2 really well?
Haf 932 or X case
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 05:24:36
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HDD/SSD?
What kit of RAM you getting?
Other than that looks good.
Make sure you get a good quality PSU, it is the most important part of the computer, more than any other part of the whole computer.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 05:30:12
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I am going to get a Cool Mater GOLD 800W or better. No SSD for now, I figure i can add a boot one later and for the hd i was leaning towards the Samsung spinpoint F3 http://www.newegg.com/pro...&SID=dl-543607-gos and the ram I am either gonna order 8gb of what you suggest or just buy the Corsair Vengeance I posted earlier. http://www.frys.com/product/6552683
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 05:43:18
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 05:46:05
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 05:52:51
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Ragingidiot
Ok I was looking at this PSU had it in my cart for a while.
Corsair 1000W
http://www.frys.com/produ...sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
So with that said you think that PC will be pretty good?
That one is an old model and is showing it;s age. Also it is not as efficient as the other three. Essentially it is actually two 500w PSU in one. Those were gold rated, this one is just 80. Which is the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to ratings. Goes 80+, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum. But there are only one or two Platinum that I can remember. Will it work for you? Yes it will, but will be more on the electric bill down the road.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 05:55:07
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The main problem with the HX1000 isn't efficiencу, but being two 500W PSU's. The TPQ-1000 is a cheaper and a much, much better PSU.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 06:01:08
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Ok well then thats out of the question.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 06:02:50
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go for asrock extreme 6, its a best choice fron a evga p67 sli.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 06:08:56
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RagingidiotWell I don't have a monitor bought yet.. so not exactly sure. I might use my 40inch 1080p LCD tv at times. Eye candy is very important.. The whole reason I am building a pc is to run games better than my consoles.. along with PC only games that is.
I am going to get a 22-24 inch LED Monitor.. so 1920 X something... LED's make things worse with TN panels, have a look at here. http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1039655 They make the already washed out colors even more obvious. Make sure you get 1200 pixels vertically, something like this. http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16824176141
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 06:09:32
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 06:12:43
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@Johnny Thanks, thats good to know. I am sure I will be using my tv for starters... all my money is going into the actual PC. I will def take your advice when I do get a monitor though.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 06:17:36
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 06:19:53
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 06:27:12
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Υep, I was going to buу one if it wasn't out of stock for a уear. I'd highlу suggest it.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 06:39:12
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Johhny Doe
Υep, I was going to buу one if it wasn't out of stock for a уear. I'd highlу suggest it.
I think that will be the route I go! Thanks!
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 07:41:19
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Johhny Doe
The main problem with the HX1000 isn't efficiency, but being two 500W PSU's. The TPQ-1000 is a cheaper and a much, much better PSU.
Here is the diagram for the HX1000W  as mentioned above it's an older model and features split rails, it will handle what your going to run, and even your upgrade to sli down the road, but you will have to make sure you divide the load properly, and would have issues if you ever needed more than about 500-550 watts on any single rail, The HX series is also a hybrid modular unit which means some wires are modular and some are hardwired, the AX series are more efficant, newer, fully modular, I have two HX1000W, and 3 AX1200's if you have questions on either , the AX1200 is a single rail design, what you save over the life of the unit in power usage will more than make up for the difference in cost. with the HX you would need system and GPU1 on one rail, and GPU 2 on the other for sli, when you just have one GPU, you would use just the hardwired cables. The HX1000W was great in it's day, but it's day was a while ago. ( also note the HX and AX cable connectors are difrent, so if you ever had both you would need to make sure you did not mix up the cables. ) I usualy buy Corsair, for the same reasion I buy EVGA, undesputed best support and warranty, the AX1200 has a 7 year warranty, the HX1000W a 5 year. 
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  Just clink Link to Register > My Affiliate Code:VTJPDC4OMB 1)965 V-8 E758(77)580 AX1200 2)980 NH-U12P-SE E761(77)2(980) AX1200 3)980X H-70 E770 (77)2(590) AX1200 4)980X H-70 E762(77)2(580) AX1200 5)920 EVGA Super Cooler E756(82)590 HX1000 6)680I 2(560-ti) HX1000W
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 07:58:24
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That's alot of good info thanks. What do you think of the Hale 1000w listed above?
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 08:13:17
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I have never had one, so I can only go by what is printed on the site, reviews are good, warranty 5 year, and specs are good, only down side is the customer service is an unknown, well to me anyway. Price is great at $209, the corsair would be $70 more, ( it's on sale) but thats with 2 additional years warranty. It's also 200 more watts, but it's not like you need them. the AX is 90% gold the hale 80% gold,effecency , and the ax can support 100 A on 12V the Hale 83 A . Both more than the 38A called for by a 570, I would stick with the known company, only because I have experianced their service before, and know what to expect, But my pocket would be $70 lighter.
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Just clink Link to Register > My Affiliate Code:VTJPDC4OMB 1)965 V-8 E758(77)580 AX1200 2)980 NH-U12P-SE E761(77)2(980) AX1200 3)980X H-70 E770 (77)2(590) AX1200 4)980X H-70 E762(77)2(580) AX1200 5)920 EVGA Super Cooler E756(82)590 HX1000 6)680I 2(560-ti) HX1000W
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 09:23:21
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KMoore4318as mentioned above it's an older model and features split rails, it will handle what your going to run, and even your upgrade to sli down the road, but you will have to make sure you divide the load properly, and would have issues if you ever needed more than about 500-550 watts on any single rail, The HX series is also a hybrid modular unit which means some wires are modular and some are hardwired, the AX series are more efficant, newer, fully modular, I have two HX1000W, and 3 AX1200's if you have questions on either , the AX1200 is a single rail design, what you save over the life of the unit in power usage will more than make up for the difference in cost. with the HX you would need system and GPU1 on one rail, and GPU 2 on the other for sli, when you just have one GPU, you would use just the hardwired cables. The HX1000W was great in it's day, but it's day was a while ago. ( also note the HX and AX cable connectors are difrent, so if you ever had both you would need to make sure you did not mix up the cables. ) I usualy buy Corsair, for the same reasion I buy EVGA, undesputed best support and warranty, the AX1200 has a 7 year warranty, the HX1000W a 5 year. Tell me something I don't know, please. Υou're making this hard for both of us by posting messages like these. We've already said it's a dual 500W desing that's weak by today standarts, then he passed that idea. There's no need to make tiring posts over it. Most of your post is true. However, there seem to be some big mistakes in there. If I understood it right, you're saying that the HX1000 is lacking because of it's multi rail. That's not true, multi rail normally makes things safer by adding OCP trigger-points to divide the load over virtual rails. But that's not the case with this PSU as it's two 500W units combined together in one case. Υes, you need to use cables from both units if уou need more than about 500W for a multi GPU setup, but that's not recommended unless it's an obvious shutdown situation. Because Channel Well's PUC desing has to be balanced in a waу that it will perform as one 1000W unit, not two 500W's at the end. Dividing the load over two units is to be avoided if it's working fine since it causes extra resistance. http://img856.imageshack....56/4239/capturegpo.jpg KMoore4318I have never had one, so I can only go by what is printed on the site, reviews are good, warranty 5 year, and specs are good, only down side is the customer service is an unknown, well to me anyway. Price is great at $209, the corsair would be $70 more, ( it's on sale) but thats with 2 additional years warranty. It's also 200 more watts, but it's not like you need them. the AX is 90% gold the hale 80% gold,effecency , and the ax can support 100 A on 12V the Hale 83 A . Both more than the 38A called for by a 570, I would stick with the known company, only because I have experianced their service before, and know what to expect, But my pocket would be $70 lighter. Nzxt is one of the biggest seller of cases in the U.S, their customer service was supposed to be good. Those efficiency numbers are nonsense because they both do Gold, and that's the reason why it's named Hale 90. That massive single rail of the AX is significantly bigger than the Hale's. Therefore, it creates a bigger danger. The Corsair you buy insults people in their forums. Few know that the people working in there are douchebags. I don't like the image Corsair has made over the years as they've been covering the failures of late TX and HX units with that image. At this point, I'd give my money to Nzxt rather than giving it to those punks.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 09:37:09
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RagingIdiot says... You make a great point and part of me wants to build it myself. The bonus I see from having them build it is they would hopefully give it to me working.. if they use a part and it doesn't work they use another. If i build it myself and something goes wrong... first I wouldn't know what wasn't working, and secondly I would have to wait for a return in the mail. Daniel son.... don't be afraid to Paint the Fence.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 10:24:12
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The HX1000W manual states NOT to cross rails, so you should not provide more than half the wattage to any single rail, ( would not be an issue with the 570 calling for 550W for system and first GPU and 219W for second 570) Many of the new multi rail units shunt multaple rails and privide a max per rail,but often limit total output to an amount less than the combined total of the rails, I do see you point, that sometimes knowlage confuses people, but there are other people that like to have all the facts before making a decision, It is not my intent to confuse ,but rather inlighten, If you perfer to keep people in the dark that is fine. I am running 2(295) units on a HX1000, so I would not call it weak. Infact the review at http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/484/1 gives it a glowing review, and calls it a under rated monster. Actual quote: " We are pretty confident that Corsair HX1000W is in fact a 1,500 W power supply that Corsair decided to label as a 1,000 W model because of efficiency. If Corsair had labeled this unit as a 1,100 W or greater unit it wouldn’t achieve the minimum 80% efficiency at full load that is considered by today’s standards the minimum a power supply should perform." The Halo 90 is caled a 90 so people will buy it as a 90, but the spec calls it  they prbaly do this to comply with truth in advertising. the AX1200 is also listed as a 80, but spec lists efficancy at >90, it's review can be found at http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/06/21/corsair_ax1200_1200w_power_supply_review/  As far as the HALE90-1000-M 1000W review sorry, I couldn't find one. as far as their customer service,Never experianced it. Corsair has been steller with me when it came to ram, I do admit I do not know how they would treat me if a PSU failed, but that's because I have NEVER HAD ONE FAIL. I do think their ram is overprices, and Mushkin offers more bang for the buck. But others here would not use anything else. Corsair did send me free of charge a compleat set of cables, because the first set that came with the AX series were not labeled for "AX SERIES only" but the next two I bought were, as noted above the HX and AX seriesare not the same. a mistake could damage a PSU, or equipment, but would only be an issue if you have both. I only offer information on them because I have been running them 24/7 folding with SLI, tri sli, and quad sli, for about 3 years in 5 systems. also Corsair_Mike hangs out on the form and offers assistance, sorry I have never seen a post from Halemike.
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Just clink Link to Register > My Affiliate Code:VTJPDC4OMB 1)965 V-8 E758(77)580 AX1200 2)980 NH-U12P-SE E761(77)2(980) AX1200 3)980X H-70 E770 (77)2(590) AX1200 4)980X H-70 E762(77)2(580) AX1200 5)920 EVGA Super Cooler E756(82)590 HX1000 6)680I 2(560-ti) HX1000W
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 13:25:35
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KMoore4318The HX1000W manual states NOT to cross rails, so you should not provide more than half the wattage to any single rail, ( would not be an issue with the 570 calling for 550W for system and first GPU and 219W for second 570) Many of the new multi rail units shunt multaple rails and privide a max per rail,but often limit total output to an amount less than the combined total of the rails, I do see you point, that sometimes knowlage confuses people, but there are other people that like to have all the facts before making a decision, It is not my intent to confuse ,but rather inlighten, If you perfer to keep people in the dark that is fine. What did I say there? Υou're repeating what I said. Go have a look at the Toughpower's diagram. New multi rail units don't shutdown because they're arranged in such way that you can't make them shutdown, look at how an EX1200 is configured. It has quad 40A rails so that it can power any GPU config without tripping the OCP set-point. Multiple rails only add more rails for frigging protection, stop spreading fud. Υou aren't enlightning anyone by suggesting them a 5 year old platform. All you or I need to know is that the HX1000 is old and not worth it in this age. KMoore4318I am running 2(295) units on a HX1000, so I would not call it weak. Infact the review at http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/484/1 gives it a glowing review, and calls it a under rated monster.
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" We are pretty confident that Corsair HX1000W is in fact a 1,500 W power supply that Corsair decided to label as a 1,000 W model because of efficiency. If Corsair had labeled this unit as a 1,100 W or greater unit it wouldn’t achieve the minimum 80% efficiency at full load that is considered by today’s standards the minimum a power supply should perform." I don't care about whatever you run on it because it's an overpriced, underperforming old unit that trips the OCP trigger because of it's design. It's bad on minor rails` regulation as well. And that statement is a joke, the HX1000 uses this platform. http://www.cwt.com.tw/eng...ct/1_detail.php?ID=956 It's a dual 500W PSU just like a Toughpower 1000. While we're at it, I'd like to say that none of the Corsair PSU's are underrated. They're mostly rebadged CWT or SeaSonic units. Corsair's underrating is just a myth. KMoore4318The Halo 90 is caled a 90 so people will buy it as a 90, but the spec calls it
they prbaly do this to comply with truth in advertising. the AX1200 is also listed as a 80, but spec lists efficancy at
>90, it's review can be found at http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/06/21/corsair_ax1200_1200w_power_supply_review/ Gold rating is Gold, there's nothing else. If a PSU pulls %90 efficiency, it's Gold rated. If it's %80 only, it's just 80 Plus rated. Both the AX and the Hale90 do Gold, full stop. KMoore4318As far as the HALE90-1000-M 1000W review sorry, I couldn't find one. as far as their customer service,Never experianced it. Corsair has been steller with me when it came to ram, I do admit I do not know how they would treat me if a PSU failed, but that's because I have NEVER HAD ONE FAIL. I do think their ram is overprices, and Mushkin offers more bang for the buck. But others here would not use anything else. Corsair did send me free of charge a compleat set of cables, because the first set that came with the AX series were not labeled for "AX SERIES only" but the next two I bought were, as noted above the HX and AX seriesare not the same. a mistake could damage a PSU, or equipment, but would only be an issue if you have both. I only offer information on them because I have been running them 24/7 folding with SLI, tri sli, and quad sli, for about 3 years in 5 systems. also Corsair_Mike hangs out on the form and offers assistance, sorry I have never seen a post from Halemike. Whether you had one fail or not, I've seen lower end Corsair units fail over the years. Their QC isn't up there with say SilverStone's. http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1010589 The brand of the RAM doens't mean jack. It's the IC's that matter. That guy you linked to me is the punk who posts harsh messages in their forums. The Hale90 is a better choice because it's great on price / performance, looks great and Corsair doesn't have the HX1050 yet. It's probably going to be overpriced hence the SeaSonic X-1050 design.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
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70 dollars can go a long way towards something else though.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
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Johhny Doe
... The Corsair guy insults people in their forums. Few know that the people working in there are douchebags. I don't like the image Corsair has made over the years as they've been covering the failures of late TX and HX units with that image. At this point, I'd give my money to Nzxt rather than giving it to those punks.
Corsair Mike has always been professional with me, But, I've never called him a dushbag, or a punk; I tend to find I get better treatment from people if I remain professional, and do not result to name calling. but that's just me. There will always be differences of opinions on equipment, which is why they make multiple brands. If everyone loved EVGA, Asus could start the lay off process. I can respect your right to not like Corsair mike, God knows some people just can not get along, and shouldn't try, and yes your entitled to condemn the hole company for the actions of one, but don't expect everyone else to. Personaly i like him, and spoke to him in atlanta at a intel lan party. about a week ago. It would be interesting to take a poll, and see what percentage of people use that product, and compair it with other products, It would also be interesting to have a list, say with all the PSU companies with a 7 year warranty, and compair that to those with 5,3, or even less. at this point lets just agree to disagree.
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Ragingidiot
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 19:11:42
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Ok I am about to order some DDR3 Vengeance RAM from Newegg, also going to order a PSU at the same time... which to get
Corsair AX850
Hale90 1000W?
In Process- P8Z68,i52500K,8GBVENGEANCE,GTX580,AX850,IN WIN DRAGON RIDER.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 19:21:01
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If it was me I would go Corsair. Only because I have experienced Corsairs Service and it is really good. Had to RMA some RAM and it went extremely smooth.
Case: Corsair 900DMotherboard: EVGA Z170 Classified E179CPU: Intel Core i7 6700K 4.6GHzRAM: 16GB Corsair DDR4 2133 16-15-15-36GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 FTW DT SLIPSU: EVGA 1000w G2SSD: Samsung 512GB 950 Pro NVME M.2Monitor: Acer Predator X34 100Hz G-SyncSound: Schiit Modi 2 DAC~Schiit Vali 2 AmpHeadphones: AKG K7XX Massdrop Edition
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Ragingidiot
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 19:36:27
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Well I ordered the P67 FTW, AX850, 8GB Vengeance, i5 2500K. I can pick up everything else at Fry's on Saturday. Hopefully be gaming by Monday! I appreciate your guys's help!
post edited by Ragingidiot - 2011/06/02 19:59:37
In Process- P8Z68,i52500K,8GBVENGEANCE,GTX580,AX850,IN WIN DRAGON RIDER.
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Re:Need help with my first gaming PC build.
2011/06/02 19:59:34
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850 is more than enough, GTX 570 is rated 219 W, so two of them would be 438. With everything else it should be around 650-700 W EDIT: Parts looking solid.
post edited by Xtrem - 2011/06/02 20:01:40
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